News Goodbye to The Grand Floridian Society Orchestra

[lazyboy97o]

What’s your problem with Josh?

Paul was better looking and gets no love.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

Paul was better looking and gets no love.

Who is Paul?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Just noting that the Chairman of P&R owns the decisions. The exact same people who were blaming Chapek for when it rains now give Josh a free pass for park decisions.

Just calling out the dynamic and the selective blame being applied based on fan popularity.

Selfies or no selfies, Josh is in charge - all good AND bad is on him.

welcome to Disney fandom...
The new guy is ALWAYS the savior

Paul was better looking and gets no love.

But a stiff...nonetheless

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Paul was better looking and gets no love.

Interesting to think if social media as we know it was around in the late 90s, would so many of the bad decisions that were associated with his tenure been forgiven or dismissed by the fanbase?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Interesting to think if social media as we know it was around in the late 90s, would so many of the bad decisions that were associated with his tenure been forgiven or dismissed by the fanbase?

Really good question.

 

[trainplane3]

I appreciate your zeal...but the era you’re speaking of is largely over. When people fall over themselves to get there...AND are willing to pay more to not have to deal with the other people attending...who on earth is Disney under obligations to “court”?? It’s bad business.

Stop making me sad.

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

Interesting to think if social media as we know it was around in the late 90s, would so many of the bad decisions that were associated with his tenure been forgiven or dismissed by the fanbase?

Social media is the bulk of our problems.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

If you show up to a Broadway show in t-shirt and shorts you deserve a flatulent old lady sitting next to you endlessly unwrapping a candy for 3 hours.

I wore a nice button up and was still next to a lady unwrapping twizzlers all during the 2nd half of Hamilton. I may have worn a hat that day so maybe that’s why I deserved it?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Social media is the bulk of our problems.

90% of our problems - at least in the US - is the growing belief that unqualified/experienced “opinions” can be interchanged with actual truth.

 

[Lilofan]

Who is Paul?

He did Josh's role. He was so bad he left Disney to become CEO of The Gap earning a huge increase in pay. After a few years there he was so bad he resigned and left with a $12M severance package.

 

[JoeCamel]

Paul was better looking and gets no love.

Who is Paul?

welcome to Disney fandom...
The new guy is ALWAYS the savior

Paul was better looking and gets no love.

But a stiff...nonetheless

Interesting to think if social media as we know it was around in the late 90s, would so many of the bad decisions that were associated with his tenure been forgiven or dismissed by the fanbase?

He did Josh's role. He was so bad he left Disney to become CEO of The Gap earning a huge increase in pay. After a few years there he was so bad he resigned and left with a $12M severance package.

Tough call

 

[Kkar]

...interesting.

That sounded like the “Naples manifesto”

People also pay $500 for Broadway tickets and show up in t-shirts and shorts. That doesn’t mean they deserve any less for the money they spent.

True - but it also cheapens/diminishes the experience for others. Can't tell you how many times we've been to a place like California Grille for a special night out and a family in t-shirts, flip flops and back-packs (pretty obvious they came right from the parks) sits down next to us. Yes, they have every right to be there, but makes us less inclined to go back.

 

[larryz]

Josh is in charge - he cut them.

And at some point, he would have had to justify keeping them to the Bob C Twins (Bob Chairman and Bob Cheapek).

If a band plays jazz and there's no one in the lobby to hear them, do they still cost half a mil a year?

 

[KBLovedDisney]

 

[wannabeBelle]

And while Disney continues to cut offerings: Marie

 

[larryz]

And while Disney continues to cut offerings: Marie

I wouldn't want to ride a coaster that threatens to slash my throat then eat me.

Just sayin'...

 

[Duckberg]

Is Disney "banking" (sic) on visitors paying more for the GF and getting LESS with the GFO gone?

 

[Disney Analyst]

And while Disney continues to cut offerings: Marie

Okay let’s make some comparable comparisons please. Universal would likely have halted construction on the coaster if they hadn’t already had a coaster going up in March.

Disney and Universal both have new attractions coming still, and both entities are cutting any and all superfluous fluff right now to save money.

 

[celluloid]

Okay let’s make some comparable comparisons please. Universal would likely have halted construction on the coaster if they hadn’t already had a coaster going up in March.

Disney and Universal both have new attractions coming still, and both entities are cutting any and all superfluous fluff right now to save money.

Universal continued and amped up pace of the capital spending, even has an opening date while Disney once again halts it though. It is important to distinguish the different types of investments vs operating costs. Disney can't blame the pandemic on their typical spreadsheet ways. Tron was announced in 2017 and started construction years ago. Universal has had supplemental entertainment open when they could have cut more besides the low guest satisfaction minor attractions that are temporarily closed(and they found homes for the entertainers and any crew they could from said shows, as many of Disney's are still furloughed with no estiamted return. A much better balancing act than Disney's method.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Universal should hire the orchestra to play on the weekends somewhere. That’s what Knotts did Years ago when Disneyland let the Billy hill & hillbillies go.