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Disney Irish

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Let's just be honest, Daisy, while a decent actress, and very likeable on screen, just doesn't have the physical attributes to play a Jedi hero in the film fans want. The reason the lightsaber action was so lame in the ST is because she can't pull it off. I've already seen way more Rey lightsaber scenes than I ever should have.
I'm sorry what physical attributes do fans want? I mean if Yoda taught us anything its that size doesn't matter.

If she needs to get more muscular for the role to meet fans "expectations" of a "physical" Jedi, that is something that can be done.
 

Hawkeye_2018

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I'm sorry what physical attributes do fans want? I mean if Yoda taught us anything its that size doesn't matter.

If she needs to get more muscular for the role to meet fans "expectations" of a "physical" Jedi, that is something that can be done.
From what I've heard/read, Daisy struggled with a lot of the physical action scenes in the ST. I think we can all agree the lightsaber stuff mostly sucked in the ST. So yea, I think a lot of us, including myself are not excited about more of the same.
 

Disney Irish

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From what I've heard/read, Daisy struggled with a lot of the physical action scenes in the ST. I think we can all agree the lightsaber stuff mostly sucked in the ST. So yea, I think a lot of us, including myself are not excited about more of the same.
In my opinion she got better as the ST went on. She was 19 when it started and 26 when it ended. And we're what 6 years since the last movie was filmed. She obviously is more mature and more experience now than back then. If it takes more training and more physicality I'm sure she can do it.

I don't know if you saw Young Woman and the Sea, she got very physically fit for that role. She ended up training just as Olympic swimmers do. So I think he can handle any physicality needed for future Jedi movies.
 

Phroobar

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The point of your post is that you think it's unlikely that the film will be made.

And to back that up, you post a link saying that it's still going to be made.

Are you getting enough oxygen?
Actually it says, it hasn't been officially cancelled. Technically neither has Rogue Squadron but no work is being done on it for years.
 

Jedijax719

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My assumption is that they want to test the field for SW theatrical return by getting out what they think people want (which is Mando and Grogu) and see how that flies before going forward immediately. I'm not sure if that is true or, if it is, if it is the best strategic decision. We shall see. But Mando and Grogu has to offer something much more than just Mando and Grogu to be successful. They've been great for TV but that doesn't necessarily translate to theatrical success.

I've said this a while back but I feel like Thrawn and the Nightsisters are the key to tying things together. They should capitalize on them and can have them appear in all the major films being rumored.
 

Phroobar

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My assumption is that they want to test the field for SW theatrical return by getting out what they think people want (which is Mando and Grogu) and see how that flies before going forward immediately. I'm not sure if that is true or, if it is, if it is the best strategic decision. We shall see. But Mando and Grogu has to offer something much more than just Mando and Grogu to be successful. They've been great for TV but that doesn't necessarily translate to theatrical success.

I've said this a while back but I feel like Thrawn and the Nightsisters are the key to tying things together. They should capitalize on them and can have them appear in all the major films being rumored.
Problem is movies based off Disney+ show characters don't do well.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Problem is movies based off Disney+ show characters don't do well.
This is such a misconstrued twisting of reality, as its not a rule, or even a thing. So far there have been zero movies based entirely off of D+ characters, the Mando/Grogu movie will be the first time such a thing happens.

The Marvels, which I'm sure is what you're basing your opinion on wasn't entirely based off the two D+ shows the characters came from.

So its not a foregone conclusion that movies based off D+ shows won't do well.
 

Phroobar

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This is such a misconstrued twisting of reality, as its not a rule, or even a thing. So far there have been zero movies based entirely off of D+ characters, the Mando/Grogu movie will be the first time such a thing happens.

The Marvels, which I'm sure is what you're basing your opinion on wasn't entirely based off the two D+ shows the characters came from.

So its not a foregone conclusion that movies based off D+ shows won't do well.
It was a movie with two Disney+ characters. One of which people liked and another people had no idea who it was. However it had Captain Marvel which was universally hated. They kind of cancelled each other out. It also didn't help that the plot was stupid. A Power Puff girls movie would have been much better.

Mando & Gorgu won't make much sense without watching Disney+ shows. Besides, Gorgu isn't really that popular in the Star Wars community. It is considered a joke how much Gorgu relatives give Star Wars fans. Most won't buy it themselves. Gorgu's shelve life is expired.
 

Phroobar

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With Weaver joining the cast, I can't wait for this scene.

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Disney Irish

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It was a movie with two Disney+ characters. One of which people liked and another people had no idea who it was. However it had Captain Marvel which was universally hated. They kind of cancelled each other out. It also didn't help that the plot was stupid. A Power Puff girls movie would have been much better.
You almost had a point there, until you said Captain Marvel was universally hated, which she was not.

Once again the movie was not based off the D+ characters. It included the two D+ characters, which is an important distinction. Had the plot been different and still included those two D+ characters it likely would have done better. That is why your point doesn't work here.

Mando & Gorgu won't make much sense without watching Disney+ shows. Besides, Gorgu isn't really that popular in the Star Wars community. It is considered a joke how much Gorgu relatives give Star Wars fans. Most won't buy it themselves. Gorgu's shelve life is expired.
Its Grogu, and I'm sure you know that, you may think he's a joke but at least spell his name correctly.

Not sure why you think he isn't popular in the community, as he was universally praised and fawned over after his debut. You don't know how many versions of the Baby Yoda memes I've seen over the last 5 years. Also don't know how many guests I see go flock to Mando/Grogu whenever I'm in GE, they always draw a huge crowd.

So I don't think they are as unknown as you might think, or as seen as a joke. We'll see how the movie does, but as long as its good it might just surprise a lot of people how well it does.
 

erasure fan1

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Mando & Gorgu won't make much sense without watching Disney+ shows.
This, as I've said, could be a problem. If not done properly, it could come off as homework.
Besides, Gorgu isn't really that popular in the Star Wars community. It is considered a joke how much Gorgu relatives give Star Wars fans. Most won't buy it themselves. Gorgu's shelve life is expired.
Grogu is still a draw, especially with the normies as they say. So I'm guessing the homework side won't be a big issue. I really think it all comes down to quality. As long as the focus is on Mando and Grogu, and not on some other character, it should be ok. While personally I think think it should have stayed a show. As long as it doesn't stink and is a fun movie it should be fine.
 

Phroobar

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This, as I've said, could be a problem. If not done properly, it could come off as homework.

Grogu is still a draw, especially with the normies as they say. So I'm guessing the homework side won't be a big issue. I really think it all comes down to quality. As long as the focus is on Mando and Grogu, and not on some other character, it should be ok. While personally I think think it should have stayed a show. As long as it doesn't stink and is a fun movie it should be fine.
Well we know there are snowtroopers and AT-ATs so at least there will be some eye candy. I'm really hoping Weaver is a bad guy. Maybe she can be Lady Tarkin. Grogu isn't Jar Jar annoying but I do think he is played out. I agree, it should stay a show.
 

Disney Irish

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Well we know there are snowtroopers and AT-ATs so at least there will be some eye candy. I'm really hoping Weaver is a bad guy. Maybe she can be Lady Tarkin. Grogu isn't Jar Jar annoying but I do think he is played out. I agree, it should stay a show.
Well given that Sigourney is filming her part before she does her West End debut of The Tempest in December, its unlikely this is a very large role.
 

Jedijax719

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Bring in Han and Luke (with a cameo of Leia portrayed by Billie Lourd) and you have a hit. Nothing at all SW fans want more than to see those three together or at least Luke and Han who were not together in the ST.
 

Disney Irish

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Bring in Han and Luke (with a cameo of Leia portrayed by Billie Lourd) and you have a hit. Nothing at all SW fans want more than to see those three together or at least Luke and Han who were not together in the ST.
You might get Luke as Mark still seems interested, you might get even Leia if Billie is interested. But Harrison doesn't appear to want to come back, he barely wanted to come back last time, so I doubt you'll get him for a third time.
 

erasure fan1

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But Harrison doesn't appear to want to come back, he barely wanted to come back last time, so I doubt you'll get him for a third time.
Ford is the Mr Krabs of actors. He'll do whatever if the paycheck is right. Everyone said he wouldn't play Solo again after force awakens, sure enough he came back. And it wouldn't have to be much more than that. I'm not saying they should do it. If it would make sense for the story, sure, why not. But I see no reason Ford wouldn't do it. I don't care how much he says he's done. All that's just code for, how much ya payin me.
 

Disney Irish

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Ford is the Mr Krabs of actors. He'll do whatever if the paycheck is right. Everyone said he wouldn't play Solo again after force awakens, sure enough he came back. And it wouldn't have to be much more than that. I'm not saying they should do it. If it would make sense for the story, sure, why not. But I see no reason Ford wouldn't do it. I don't care how much he says he's done. All that's just code for, how much ya payin me.
I know that is the joke around the cantina, but I don't believe he will just do anything for a paycheck. If that was the case first it wouldn't have taken 32 years for him to return to the role in the first place (Lucas was willing to pay him loads to come back for years but he never accepted), and second he wouldn't have insisted the character be killed off. Because why kill off a character if you're just trying to siphon more paychecks out of the Mouse, you return and keep getting paid and the Mouse would have happily kept paying him for the role. So yeah that sort of throws cold water on that theory.

And now he's in the MCU, which I suspect he'll do for two movies max, and be done with that. The man is 82, he don't need much.
 
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Phroobar

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Ford is the Mr Krabs of actors. He'll do whatever if the paycheck is right. Everyone said he wouldn't play Solo again after force awakens, sure enough he came back. And it wouldn't have to be much more than that. I'm not saying they should do it. If it would make sense for the story, sure, why not. But I see no reason Ford wouldn't do it. I don't care how much he says he's done. All that's just code for, how much ya payin me.
Ford is just grouchy. He is just going for the simple stuff like Captain America where he doesn't have to act or do much movement. It just gives him something to do for a payday. He has stopped being an actor a long time ago.

Weird thing is this Red Hulk looks more like Harrison Ford than that CG de-aged Indiana Jones in Dial tone of Disney.
 

DKampy

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Ford is just grouchy. He is just going for the simple stuff like Captain America where he doesn't have to act or do much movement. It just gives him something to do for a payday. He has stopped being an actor a long time ago.

Weird thing is this Red Hulk looks more like Harrison Ford than that CG de-aged Indiana Jones in Dial tone of Disney.
Have you seen the Shrinking series on Apple Plus…. Harrison is great in that… season 2 should be beginning soon
 
Ford is just grouchy. He is just going for the simple stuff like Captain America where he doesn't have to act or do much movement. It just gives him something to do for a payday. He has stopped being an actor a long time ago.

Weird thing is this Red Hulk looks more like Harrison Ford than that CG de-aged Indiana Jones in Dial tone of Disney.
That sounds like quite the exaggeration, Dial clearly looks like ford being that Ford wasn’t cgi in the de-aging sequence while red hulk is.

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