JustInTime
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Did you see the concept art? You are not more aware of the drink because it didnt take off like butterbeer did.
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Gastons retiring pork shanks
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NearTheEars
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I did not. I'm aware of the drink because I wandered into Gaston's one day and saw it on the menu. My thoughts were: Hey, it's supposed to be a tavern, but they can't serve alcohol here, so they managed to theme a drink to the restaurant.
I purchased one, and went on my merry way.
ETA: I think it's a no brainier that Butterbeer would be very popular, it was in the books and a film that has a huge following. The brew stuff didn't even exist.
Anywho. Silly thing to waste our time on anyway.
The replacement should be a signature item, and something "hearty" as fitting with the tavern theme.Maybe yeah those could work. Great ideas! Hope though whatever if anything takes its place will be some type of pork/beef item you can't get elsewhere at MK.
DisneyOutsider
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FWIW, I thought that the butterbeer was NASTY. They nuked that drink with waay too much sugar. Just way too sweet for me. LeFou's is also very sweet, but more manageable to me.
I'd love to have a Gaston's Tavern (with real beer) at Disney Springs, or maybe at Wilderness Lodge, where they could make it the WL equivalent of Trader Sam's.
I'd love to have a Gaston's Tavern (with real beer) at Disney Springs, or maybe at Wilderness Lodge, where they could make it the WL equivalent of Trader Sam's.
bhg469
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This is totally true. They made a signature drink that they wanted to blow up but they just missed the mark. Obviously Butterbeer had more of a push behind it but Disney would not have attempted their own brew had it not been for the success of potters offering. 100% knee jerk reaction.
Chris82
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Do we even know why they're axing the shank, though? Maybe there's some economic reason for them not to offer a hearty, meaty kind of thing instead of just ready-made stuff out of a fridge.
This kind of thing worries me, because it suggests that Disney never really understood why Harry Potter was successful in the first place - their reaction suggests they think it has something to do with "large-scale IP-driven lands" and "themed beverages." It seems lost on them that Harry Potter is the perfect match for a theme park land because part of the core fantasy involves visiting a static location and buying merchandise. (Unlike Star Wars.) It feels like Disney completely misses the organic appeal of Diagon Alley, Butterbeer, and wands. So they push LeFou's Brew, while meanwhile, over at Be Our Guest, guests were having to beg to "try the gray stuff."
If Disney was smart, they'd feature a sweet beverage prominently in Frozen 2 and then sell the crap of it at Kringla Bakeri og Kafe (please don't do that, Disney).
NearTheEars
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Is butterbeer also a frozen fruit drink? Trying to be able to draw more comparisons, but I have not experienced it.
bhg469
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No but it also has a flavored foam top and was made to be an exclusive drink to one area of the park.
The only comparison that matters is Disney most certainly would not have made this if butter beer wasn't such a huge success.
bhg469
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You said it. They almost get it but then they just dont..
They have good ideas but execution is weak.
Figment2005
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The drink itself is good, but the foam detracts.
peter11435
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I don't know if i would go as far to say that disney wouldn't have had it if not for butterbeer. Disney has long had specialty beverages around the park. The brew itself wasn't even knew for gastons, the drink was developed for cars land and copied here with a new name.
NearTheEars
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Cosmic Commando
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Just because it wasn't introduced at Gaston's, that doesn't mean it wasn't Disney's answer to butterbeer. Cars Land was Disney's answer to Potter. At the absolute minimum, I think butterbeer opened Disney's eyes to the world of "flavor x foam on top of flavor y drink". It's a well they've gone to at least two or three times that I can think of since butterbeer popped up. I can get a frozen lemonade at a lot of places, but you could only get a grape- blackberry frozen lemonade with lemon-lime foam at DCA when they were promoting Frankenweenie.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just because the food and beverage team is trying to shoehorn lessons from Potter into the park doesn't mean that WDI doesn't "get" Potter... they just don't have anything that can match it. Harry Potter was a once-in-a-generation IP, IMO; it was perfectly suited for theme parks in a way that few, if any, properties are/were.
Edit: The pork shank is also off the menu at Pop... could be a supply issue.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just because the food and beverage team is trying to shoehorn lessons from Potter into the park doesn't mean that WDI doesn't "get" Potter... they just don't have anything that can match it. Harry Potter was a once-in-a-generation IP, IMO; it was perfectly suited for theme parks in a way that few, if any, properties are/were.
Edit: The pork shank is also off the menu at Pop... could be a supply issue.
disney4life2008
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Butterbeer is absolutely amazing. The drink at gaston is the most disgusting drink ever. Even worse than tap water straight from the sink in all star sports resort room.
RSoxNo1
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I like LaFou's brew, but I'm a sucker for most slushes. I still prefer the lemonade slush and butterbeer over LaFou's brew though.
JustInTime
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It was the answer to butterbeer and was originally designed for Gaston's. They just decided to put it in carsland since it opened first and it was already their answer to butterbeer anyway. And there wasn't anywhere else to serve the drink really so carsland is where it went.
Disneyhead'71
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I find both Butterbeer and LaFou's Brew to be disgusting. But I do like Hog's Head Brew. It is a full bodied Scottish Red Ale.
tribbleorlfl
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It really doesn't matter if LeFou's Brew was featured in BatH or not, or whether it was created for Carsland and ported to Gaston's (or vice versa). At the end of the day, it was the lack of imagination that killed it's potential.
When I think of a "manly" 18th century French Provencial tavern, cinamon rolls, hints of marshmallow and passion fruit foam are pretty low on my list. While the pork shank was a terrific idea, I think they really missed the boat by not going further with a family-friendly interpretation of a tavern. Where's the ginger ale? Where's the root beer? If they were going to do an Apple drink, why not a spiced apple cider? They could have had several exclusive signature drinks that would have played up the kid's fantasy of going to a tavern and ordering a drink.
When I think of a "manly" 18th century French Provencial tavern, cinamon rolls, hints of marshmallow and passion fruit foam are pretty low on my list. While the pork shank was a terrific idea, I think they really missed the boat by not going further with a family-friendly interpretation of a tavern. Where's the ginger ale? Where's the root beer? If they were going to do an Apple drink, why not a spiced apple cider? They could have had several exclusive signature drinks that would have played up the kid's fantasy of going to a tavern and ordering a drink.