Garden Grill restaurant permanently immobile? No.

BrianV

Well-Known Member
I assume they will either fix this OR renovate the space such that it is not on a rotating platform--maybe a tiered restaurant looking over the scenes below. I would prefer the former, but I have no issues with the decision if it is the latter. Comparing this to a broken yeti is not exactly fair. The spinning is crucial to this venue.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
I assume they will either fix this OR renovate the space such that it is not on a rotating platform--maybe a tiered restaurant looking over the scenes below. I would prefer the former, but I have no issues with the decision if it is the latter. Comparing this to a broken yeti is not exactly fair. The spinning is crucial to this venue.
The yeti is crucial to the story of Everest.
 

jakeman

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An electric motor and some gears. That's what makes something turn. Nothing from overseas. Nothing that takes months to get. The whole thing could be built with parts from Radio Shack.

It boils down to money. That's it. It costs money to fix, and they lose money when they shut it down to repair it. Managers don't want any of that on their books. And as long as naive guests continue to book it up, it will stay broken.

That's literally all there is to it.
Yep.

If parts from oversees plus lost revenue over time is less than parts sourced locally than they will go with option A.
 

BrianV

Well-Known Member
The yeti is crucial to the story of Everest.

Perhaps. But do you think anyone ever said "I'll skip Everest on my vacation because the Yeti doesn't work"? By reports here, people are doing just that at the garden grill because it doesn't rotate. So I guess people are voting with their feet.
 

ninjaprincesst

Well-Known Member
It is not like this is the first
An electric motor and some gears. That's what makes something turn. Nothing from overseas. Nothing that takes months to get. The whole thing could be built with parts from Radio Shack.

It boils down to money. That's it. It costs money to fix, and they lose money when they shut it down to repair it. Managers don't want any of that on their books. And as long as naive guests continue to book it up, it will stay broken.

That's literally all there is to it.
When I was younger I was a waitress at Reunion Tower in Dallas, it broke and would not rotate, it was no simple fix of just call Grainger, or whoever, they had to have specific parts manufactured and shipped from China, it took forever and we eventually had to close waiting for the part, that is when I left because I could not afford to wait for reopening. You would think with the number of these places parts would be available, but apparently that is not the case as they were told the same thing here as we were in Dallas years ago.
 

ABQ

Well-Known Member
If this is the first time this particular piece within the entire turntable mechanism has broken, I can certainly understand why the part may only be available overseas. I'm not sure when this restaurant opened, if it was with the park's grand opening, it's entirely possible the original manufacturer doesn't exist any longer, or that manufacturer was/is always based overseas and no parts were ever manufactured state side.
 

Cesar R M

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If this is the first time this particular piece within the entire turntable mechanism has broken, I can certainly understand why the part may only be available overseas. I'm not sure when this restaurant opened, if it was with the park's grand opening, it's entirely possible the original manufacturer doesn't exist any longer, or that manufacturer was/is always based overseas and no parts were ever manufactured state side.
Good point!

Also.. could be that the model of the parts needed, were phased out.. so they need to be ordered and built "a la carte".

I wonder if they ran out of spares before finally having to turn off the rotating mechanism.
 

ninjaprincesst

Well-Known Member
Good point!

Also.. could be that the model of the parts needed, were phased out.. so they need to be ordered and built "a la carte".

I wonder if they ran out of spares before finally having to turn off the rotating mechanism.
It is not the first tine the Garden Grill has broken, but it is very old it opened back in the early eighties.
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
If they were aware that certain parts would be difficult to get why not be pro-active and have the parts on deck for anything that could go wrong? Did they think it would never malfunction? Even if the parts had to be special made, all the more reason to get them before something goes wrong.

I have an older (1995) Volkswagen that my father and I like to work on and keep in good shape. When we buy certain parts for it we always buy several in the event that the part becomes more difficult to find the next time it breaks. We have a decent surplus of parts built up over the years. It has paid off many times having the extra parts. Its a no-brainer. Why cant TWDC do this?
 

G8rchamps

Well-Known Member
If they were aware that certain parts would be difficult to get why not be pro-active and have the parts on deck for anything that could go wrong? Did they think it would never malfunction? Even if the parts had to be special made, all the more reason to get them before something goes wrong.QUOTE]

:hilarious:Bah HA HA HA, spare parts - OOHH that a good one....ROFLMAO!!
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
If they were aware that certain parts would be difficult to get why not be pro-active and have the parts on deck for anything that could go wrong? Did they think it would never malfunction? Even if the parts had to be special made, all the more reason to get them before something goes wrong.

I have an older (1995) Volkswagen that my father and I like to work on and keep in good shape. When we buy certain parts for it we always buy several in the event that the part becomes more difficult to find the next time it breaks. We have a decent surplus of parts built up over the years. It has paid off many times having the extra parts. Its a no-brainer. Why cant TWDC do this?
Let me tell you how that meeting could go...

Manager: So you want to spend $X on a part for the Garden Grill?

Engineer: Yes.

Manager: Is it broken.

Engineer: No, but it could break.

Manager:When?

Engineer: I don't know, maybe never.

Manager: Will someone get hurt if it does break?

Engineer: No.

Manager: What is the worst case scenario if it breaks?

Engineer: The restaurant will not spin for a month or two while we get/make the part.

Manager: Will the restaurant be able to function as a restaurant?

Engineer: Yes.

Manager: Will we save money by buying the part now?

Engineer: Not likely.

Manager: Wait until it breaks.
 

orky8

Well-Known Member
If this is the first time this particular piece within the entire turntable mechanism has broken, I can certainly understand why the part may only be available overseas. I'm not sure when this restaurant opened, if it was with the park's grand opening, it's entirely possible the original manufacturer doesn't exist any longer, or that manufacturer was/is always based overseas and no parts were ever manufactured state side.

Regardless, the "overseas" part is irrelevant. It doesn't take months to get things just because they are coming from overseas. The more important thing, and for which we are all speculating, is why it is taking so long for the part to be manufactured, assuming Disney has even ordered a part in the first place.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
Regardless, the "overseas" part is irrelevant. It doesn't take months to get things just because they are coming from overseas. The more important thing, and for which we are all speculating, is why it is taking so long for the part to be manufactured, assuming Disney has even ordered a part in the first place.
Ever make something "simple" like a gear from scratch, by hand before? It is an insanely time consuming, labor intensive process that can take a considerable amount of time especially if there is not an existing blueprint for said part.

If we knew exactly what part had failed, we might be able to complain about how long it is taking. Without that knowledge, we are just chest thumping.
 
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morningstar

Well-Known Member
Even if the restaurant might be powered by an off-the-shelf electric motor, I imagine there are lots of parts that are not off-the-shelf, like bearings. Do you think a bearing for a rotating restaurant is a mass-produced item? No one has given any hint of what part is broken. It could be one of many.
 

Lord_Vader

Join me, together we can rule the galaxy.
If they were aware that certain parts would be difficult to get why not be pro-active and have the parts on deck for anything that could go wrong? Did they think it would never malfunction? Even if the parts had to be special made, all the more reason to get them before something goes wrong.

I have an older (1995) Volkswagen that my father and I like to work on and keep in good shape. When we buy certain parts for it we always buy several in the event that the part becomes more difficult to find the next time it breaks. We have a decent surplus of parts built up over the years. It has paid off many times having the extra parts. Its a no-brainer. Why cant TWDC do this?

They cannot capitalize anything that is not installed but simply sitting in inventory, items in inventory at the end of the year are taxed as if they are for sale which is not a good way to effectively use your $$$. Same reason car dealerships, furniture, appliance and mattress stores have end of year sales on a large scale, to eliminate as much inventory as possible to avoid paying taxes as much as possible on standing inventory.
 

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