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Fun With Numbers: MK Maingate Blackout Edition
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ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Why - the logical thing to do from TWDC's current management would be to eliminate the pass program entirely, Their workforce can no longer AFFORD to visit WDW. seeing how it's largely low wage CP'ers and part time recent immigrants living in Igervilles near the Lynx stations.
I did a quick look at the numbers through the end of the month.... Should this hold? 99 days out of 180 or so for the first six months.
Over 50% of the time, MK will be blacked out. Toss in July, August, Thanksgiving, Christmas and other holidays and its likely theyre going to come close to 50% for the year (assuming they don't exceed it.)
Over 50% of the time, MK will be blacked out. Toss in July, August, Thanksgiving, Christmas and other holidays and its likely theyre going to come close to 50% for the year (assuming they don't exceed it.)
I dont know how they select CPs anymore, I just think that they need to work on the criteria a bit more.
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
@PhotoDave219 I saw the thread title and I thought we were gonna get a delightful tale of "22 shots later, we're going in the MK. That's the last thing I remember."
Well, there were a few times I tossed back a few beverages at a monorail resort bar (medicinal purposes, really) before heading to the MK.
But those interesting stories involve the back porch of the Adv Club.
TRONorail12
Active Member
WDW is actually amidst a labor crisis right now. Over the past few years, they have significantly increased the number of CP's they hire. Already overpriced housing that had CP's sharing a bedroom with 1 person, has now gone to 1 bedroom for 3-4 people in most cases. Imagine living in a small 3 bedroom apartment with 9+ people. It's insane. The Orlando job market has also been increasing over the past few years with new resort hotels, retail venues, restaurants and theme park additions. Bottom line, Orlando is in a job surplus right now. Companies are getting desperate to fill service industry/entry level jobs. The city is growing, but the population can't keep up with the job creation. Anyone who is living in Orlando and on unemployment is just flat out lazy, because you can find a job almost anywhere in this city. Even the mighty WDW, which was once one of the most desired jobs to have in Florida has fallen victim to the labor crisis. There is too much competition for the labor force, so Disney is no longer pulling in the top individuals in the service industry anymore. CM's are now just numbers more than ever. Do we have X amount of people to fill positions in the park so that we can operate? Disney is so desperate to fill jobs, that they will hire almost anybody nowadays. It's just sad when Disney has to resort to hiring people who have only seen a handful of Disney movies, have never set foot on Disney property until they walk into the Casting Building, know absolutely nothing about the theme parks, and barely have any idea who Walt Disney is.
Yeah, most everyone is aware (here anyways) that CP Recruiters lie and lie and lie.....
TubaGeek
God bless the "Ignore" button.
Stuff like this is why I left. One relevant thing that REALLY rustled my jimmies is that I didn't get to go to even a PREVIEW of the Halloween nor Christmas events that I had to work at.
Yes, it's partially selfish, but also, isn't that just a basic matter of product knowledge?
Yes, it's partially selfish, but also, isn't that just a basic matter of product knowledge?
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
A lot of this depends on pace of construction. They hold back on selling some inventory when a new resort opens in case construction runs long. If they finish early or on time, they have unsold rooms available and will steeply discount for CMs. I used a friends and family CM discount when the Cars area of DAAR opened early. I think CMs were getting 70% for themselves and 60% for friends and family for a while.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Yeah CP housing is a pit, but it ain't Disney's fault. It's the CP's fault.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
I think part of the problem is that many of them are college-in-name-only. They might be enrolled in some general studies courses at East West State Community College but many live at home and were never "college students" in the traditional sense of being away from home, living in dorms, etc. Thus, they haven't had the opportunity to grow out of the lunatic "FREE AT LAST!!! PAAAAAARTAAAY!!!" mentality that most people get out of their system in a normal four-year college track.
stini228
Active Member
Hmm, could be related to the construction on Tokelau, maybe they will finish faster than expected. The promo runs from now thru Oct 3rd, quite generous.
Gringrinngghost
Well-Known Member
It all depends on the housing. My friend did the CP a few years back on RnR and told me "Pick Patterson court if your staying on the college program property it's the nicest. Vista way is the worst" Also from the fact that as of 2012 housing is done by Lincoln Property Company. I can't say if any improvements have been done or what not a I've not seen them first hand.
Well here's something interesting.....
I was passed a note (and double checked) that Maingate Blackouts at MK were lifted for 7/5-7/12. Of course, that still makes 28 straight days....
I'm still of the opinion that its wrong. I'm still of the opinion that CMs make up very very little of the audience as a whole. I'm still of the opinion that CPs are the problem.
I'm still of the opinion that you need 60-90 days with the company to get your maingate.
I'm going to continue to track this as the year progresses. Interesting that they threw the cast a bone tho.
I was passed a note (and double checked) that Maingate Blackouts at MK were lifted for 7/5-7/12. Of course, that still makes 28 straight days....
I'm still of the opinion that its wrong. I'm still of the opinion that CMs make up very very little of the audience as a whole. I'm still of the opinion that CPs are the problem.
I'm still of the opinion that you need 60-90 days with the company to get your maingate.
I'm going to continue to track this as the year progresses. Interesting that they threw the cast a bone tho.
stini228
Active Member
Say what? Isnt that one of the busiest weeks of the year? Confused
I know, right? Weird.
Here's something that popped up today too.... Someone suggested that the insanity of the Maingate Blackouts didnt start until George K showed up here in Orlando..... and that seems to fit. More on this later but fits especially if he's beind the tiered price gouging initiative...
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
The one thing the MM+ system does do well is show potential attraction loads (based on counts of FP+ reservations) so they may have lifted the blackout based on data.