Fun With Numbers: MK Maingate Blackout Edition

WhatJaneSays

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If I remember correctly, the amount the comp tickets received correlate with the amount of dependents one has.
Regular comp tickets are 2, twice per year … however I have heard that can vary as well on the size of the family.

The holiday comp tickets work differently: they get 3 automatically, but more if their total dependents + spouse is more than that. (same as the guest passes they have)
 

PhotoDave219

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Original Poster
Comps happen twice a year - summer (hey we got those TODAY) and winter. You get one per dependent. If you are a party of one - you get two total. So if it's my, my spouse, and two kids, I get four.

The holiday ones are changing.

Thanks for clearing that up.
 

PhotoDave219

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Original Poster
Theories?

None whatsoever. (Well, beyond someone is just being a giant .....)

Unless we're talking about international free dining (Unsure of those dates) and bookings are really that high because Domestic is just the last week of the year.

So in all of 2013 MK pulled 62 peak days, 17% of the year. 2014, 52 peak days, 14% of the time. This year? 58 so far, or 30% of the year. So.... MK is historically packed.

No matter what, maingates don't impact attendance that much, not more than 3-5% of the daily attendance... based on the average attendance of 53000, thats 2700 people at most. I cant see where thats enough of a difference to have an giant impact.
 

hopemax

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All of October doesn't make much sense. They should have left party nights open. The crowd reports seem to indicate that other guests avoid MK during party nights, because of the shorter hours. So it would be the perfect days to allow the sign-ins.

I do think vacation patterns are changing and October is not what it used to be 15 years ago. With the Halloween parties, and Food & Wine overlapping, year round schools, when people look to when WDW is the best "bang for the buck," October ranks really high. So I would expect some blockout days now, but not all.

It's our year for Christmas in Orlando (arrive the week before, and then fly out shortly after the holiday), and in the past we've always managed to be able to hit all the parks one day without a blockout date, although MK would have to be the first day. After they did what they did last year, we've already been planning on not going to WDW at all this year because I expect everything to be blocked out again. And that's why we have Universal passes.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
All of October doesn't make much sense. They should have left party nights open. The crowd reports seem to indicate that other guests avoid MK during party nights, because of the shorter hours. So it would be the perfect days to allow the sign-ins.

I do think vacation patterns are changing and October is not what it used to be 15 years ago. With the Halloween parties, and Food & Wine overlapping, year round schools, when people look to when WDW is the best "bang for the buck," October ranks really high. So I would expect some blockout days now, but not all.

It's our year for Christmas in Orlando (arrive the week before, and then fly out shortly after the holiday), and in the past we've always managed to be able to hit all the parks one day without a blockout date, although MK would have to be the first day. After they did what they did last year, we've already been planning on not going to WDW at all this year because I expect everything to be blocked out again. And that's why we have Universal passes.
You know we're talking about Cast blockout dates, right?
 

hopemax

Well-Known Member
Well, now you know. Although, Disney has employees most everywhere. 1999-2004 my parents lived in WA and had a Silver Pass. I don't know what current Disney Store Management gets post selling/rebuying them from Children's Place and how they classify them now.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
All of October doesn't make much sense. They should have left party nights open. The crowd reports seem to indicate that other guests avoid MK during party nights, because of the shorter hours. So it would be the perfect days to allow the sign-ins.

I do think vacation patterns are changing and October is not what it used to be 15 years ago. With the Halloween parties, and Food & Wine overlapping, year round schools, when people look to when WDW is the best "bang for the buck," October ranks really high. So I would expect some blockout days now, but not all.

It's our year for Christmas in Orlando (arrive the week before, and then fly out shortly after the holiday), and in the past we've always managed to be able to hit all the parks one day without a blockout date, although MK would have to be the first day. After they did what they did last year, we've already been planning on not going to WDW at all this year because I expect everything to be blocked out again. And that's why we have Universal passes.

Also, October is not statistically busy in the grand scheme of things. Busier than September historically but simply average crowds in the grand scheme of things....
 

wogwog

Well-Known Member
Could be as simple as another money grab or punish the cast because they got a pitiful little raise in pay.

It really looks greedy compared to last year even. Sept 2014 had 1 main gate blackout day. Sept 2015 has 10. Oct 2014 had 18. Oct 2015 has 31. Cheap, greedy, punishment. Any of these reasons or something else?
 

Captain Neo

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This also demonstrates what theme park afficianados have claimed for at least five years: the MK needs more capacity.

EC, HS, and DAK need more attractions to help spread the crowds, but the MK is the castle park. It will always be the most popular. It has the highest official attendance of any theme park worldwide and the fewest things to do compared to DL or TDL (its nearest competitors).

On top of that they shut down so many attractions like the watercraft on the rivers of America (canoes, keel boats, etc), the skyway, etc and replaced several attractions like alien encounter with attractions that nobody wants to see (stitch, monsters inc). Additionally other attractions have been allowed to get stale without any major updates to entice people to return (carousel of progress, jungle cruise). MK has become an overcrowded nightmare and honesty I saw this coming at least ten years ago.
 

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