Frozen

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Sorry for the double post but I just found this -

Dance Club Remix of Let It Go - https://soundcloud.com/hollywoodrecpromo/idina-menzel-let-it-go-1

The Academy Award-winning tune, as performed by Idina Menzel, has been reworked into a stomping club cut, courtesy of production team Papercha$er. Papercha$er has fashioned official remixes for the likes of Rihanna ("Where Have You Been?") and Fifth Harmony ("Miss Movin' On").

The "Frozen" soundtrack is currently at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 chart for the sixth nonconsecutive week, and is likely heading for a seventh frame atop the list. And, with 1.1 million sold this year, it's by far 2014's best selling album.


Disney Music Group will begin promoting remixes of "Let It Go" to dance clubs and DJs on Friday, March 21. Other remixers on board include DJ Escape & Tony Collucio and Dave Aude.

Menzel isn't a stranger to the club floor, as the singer/actress has visited Billboard's Dance Club Songs chart three times previously. She first hit the list in 2006 thanks to remixes of "Take Me Or Leave Me" (with Tracie Thomas, from the film "Rent"). It peaked at No. 32.

A year later, Menzel scored her first top 10 Club hit with "Defying Gravity." The song, arguably the signature tune from the Broadway musical "Wicked," was first performed by the show's Menzel and Kristin Chenoweth in 2003. Years later, in 2007, Menzel recorded a new solo version of the track, which was remixed for dance clubs. It reached No. 5 on the chart dated Aug. 4, 2007.

Then, in 2008, Menzel hit No. 3 with "Gorgeous," a single from Menzel's studio album "I Stand."

As for Papercha$er's remix of "Let It Go," the production team's Marc Stout tells Billboard that it was a "fun challenge to translate" Menzel's "powerful and theatrical vocal" for the dance floor. Stout also notes how "Frozen" was the first movie that he had ever taken his daughter to see, so he had a special connection with the film and its music.
 

Figments Friend

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Well brace yourselves for a shocker, but i actually saw 'Frozen' a few days ago.

Yep. I did.

A friend invited me over for a small party, and in the evening he whipped out a movie for us to view.
It turned out to be 'Frozen'..his new favorite film.
So there is sat....seeing a film i have had little interest in since it's pre-release ( expressed here previously...many many pages ago...).

So what did i think of it...once actually seeing it....?




First, i will cover the positives.

I liked the background/layout work.
Some nice settings and clever design elements.
They did their homework in regards to the Norwegian culture and patterns.

I liked the color palette used for those backgrounds/layouts.
Some beautiful shades were paired together and it make for a visually appealing image.

I liked the songs for the most part.
Very showy...very 'Broadway-like'.
The 'Let It Go' vocal performance was the standout however. The performance by Idina Menzel was stunning.
Yeah, the imagery used during this sequence is pretty...but for me it was the vocal performance that really shined.
I could easily separate the two elements which made me think the voice of Elsa and the singer were two different people.

Olaf's musical number however left me cold...no pun intended. It felt tacked on..and not really needed.
I said after it played that cutting it out of the film would have been just fine and kept things moving.
Others will likely feel different, of course.


So from a artistic perspective, i enjoyed the backgrounds, color palette, and the music/score for the most part.

What i did not overly care much for were the characters and story.
Olaf was also not appealing to me. It just seemed he was there as the typical cute, comic relief character to appeal to the kiddies in the audience.
Oh..and to sell toys/plush of.
If he was absent from the film, it would have played just as well.

I can see why people have taken this film to a high level, and why many feel a personal emotional connection to it.
I understood this even before seeing the film, and noted that earlier in this thread in one of my previous posts.
People embrace the film and the character of Elsa because she is a metaphor for those who feel that they cannot be themselves, either in society in general, or with their family/friends.
I totally get that...and i think everyone can relate to this on some level.
Teens and young adults especially ( which probably explains why they love this movie so ).
That is a nice thing..and i am glad this film spoke to them on that level.
For me, it did'nt.
It was a pretty movie to look at...but not a lot of substance. Much like my experience seeing 'Tangled'.
Both are films i could enjoy looking at from a artistic standpoint, but were somewhat 'empty' to me.
Like a brightly wrapped empty box.
Pretty to admire and look at ....but once open, nothing there.

The story, and the characters, did not 'grab me'.
The film did not make me go 'WOWee!" and make me anxiously await the next possible viewing.
Personal opinion...but it was pretty to look at. The colors are great.
I would like to know more about those responsible for the layout/backgrounds as they did a great job.

I enjoyed the opportunity to see the film though, but i am in no hurry to see it again.

I also did see 'Get A Horse', although not in it's original 3-D presentation.
Thought that was quite fun..with some clever 'PhilharMagic' like effects.
Must have been great to see in the theater with an audience.
Quite cool to see a 'retro recreation' of a classic Mickey short.
The work put into trying to match that old style of animation from the early period was nicely done.
Hearing a young Walt voicing Mickey was also a geek-out moment...i will confess.
So 'Get A Horse' was a fun romp....even in it's mono-chromatic glory.


So there ya go.
I took it in....digested...and ...well...yeah...

...moved on..!
 

AngieTink27

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The story, and the characters, did not 'grab me'.
The film did not make me go 'WOWee!" and make me anxiously await the next possible viewing.
To each their own but reading some of these reviews make me wonder if people even saw the movie of if they just feel the need to jump on the bash wagon. No offense to you but did you actually see this movie?
 

Figments Friend

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To each their own but reading some of these reviews make me wonder if people even saw the movie of if they just feel the need to jump on the bash wagon. No offense to you but did you actually see this movie?

Yes i did see the film, as noted in my previous post.
It is indeed interesting how a film can been seen so differently by such a wide audience.
That is one of the great things about the world of the movies...everyone has their own take of what is presented before them.
A film i might be absolutely crazy about and give rave reviews for, someone else will find the same film lame and a total waste of time.
Like you said, to each their own.

I LIKED some aspects of 'Frozen'...most of which were artistic aspects ( color, background work, some of the musical choices ).
The only 'standout' moment of the film was the vocal performance of 'Let It Go' by Idina.
The musical performance she did vocally stood out to me and deserved the 'Best Song' Oscar win.

I enjoyed seeing the film that one time...but much like 'Tangled' and some other recent efforts, it was a 'watch once, no need to again' type of movie for me.


I am glad others love it and embrace these characters. I can fully understand why folks have a real emotional attachment to it and love the story.
Not trying to get on the 'bash wagon'.
'Frozen' is just not a film i can get overly excited about.
The most recent Disney animated film i did get excited about and enjoy quite a bit was 'The Princess & The Frog'.

As they say, 'Different strokes fer different folks..'

:)
 
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Sped2424

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Yes i did see the film, as noted in my previous post.
It is indeed interesting how a film can been seen so differently by such a wide audience.
That is one of the great things about the world of the movies...everyone has their own take of what is presented before them.
A film i might be absolutely crazy about and give rave reviews for, someone else will find the same film lame and a total waste of time.
Like you said, to each their own.

I LIKED some aspects of 'Frozen'...most of which were artistic aspects ( color, background work, some of the musical choices ).
The only 'standout' moment of the film was the vocal performance of 'Let It Go' by Idina.
The musical performance she did vocally stood out to me and deserved the 'Best Song' Oscar win.

I enjoyed seeing the film that one time...but much like 'Tangled' and some other recent efforts, it was a 'watch once, no need to again' type of movie for me.


I am glad others love it and embrace these characters. I can fully understand why folks have a real emotional attachment to it and love the story.
Not trying to get on the 'bash wagon'.
'Frozen' is just not a film i can get overly excited about.
The most recent Disney animated film i did get excited about and enjoy quite a bit was 'The Princess & The Frog'.

As they say, 'Different strokes fer different folks..'

:)
at least you saw it though, and I can tell you are not trying to bash anyone's parade on here. You put out your opinion and how you felt about the film and that is fine! Thank you for sharing!
 

lilclerk

Well-Known Member
Yes i did see the film, as noted in my previous post.
It is indeed interesting how a film can been seen so differently by such a wide audience.
That is one of the great things about the world of the movies...everyone has their own take of what is presented before them.
A film i might be absolutely crazy about and give rave reviews for, someone else will find the same film lame and a total waste of time.
Like you said, to each their own.

I LIKED some aspects of 'Frozen'...most of which were artistic aspects ( color, background work, some of the musical choices ).
The only 'standout' moment of the film was the vocal performance of 'Let It Go' by Idina.
The musical performance she did vocally stood out to me and deserved the 'Best Song' Oscar win.

I enjoyed seeing the film that one time...but much like 'Tangled' and some other recent efforts, it was a 'watch once, no need to again' type of movie for me.


I am glad others love it and embrace these characters. I can fully understand why folks have a real emotional attachment to it and love the story.
Not trying to get on the 'bash wagon'.
'Frozen' is just not a film i can get overly excited about.
The most recent Disney animated film i did get excited about and enjoy quite a bit was 'The Princess & The Frog'.

As they say, 'Different strokes fer different folks..'

:)

I'm totally with you. It was gorgeous, I enjoyed the music, but I didn't care about the story or characters (actually, I liked Olaf, Sven, and the shopkeeper but I tend to enjoy those small comic relief characters in things.) It might be me, but the story felt extremely rushed. I felt like it all happened so fast, I didn't have time to really care about what happened to anyone.

I am glad I finally saw it, though! At least now I get all the memes out there on the internets.
 

Bairstow

Well-Known Member
I'm totally with you. It was gorgeous, I enjoyed the music, but I didn't care about the story or characters (actually, I liked Olaf, Sven, and the shopkeeper but I tend to enjoy those small comic relief characters in things.) It might be me, but the story felt extremely rushed. I felt like it all happened so fast, I didn't have time to really care about what happened to anyone.

I am glad I finally saw it, though! At least now I get all the memes out there on the internets.

I can see why people like Frozen, but I wasn't bowled over by the movie, mostly because it just seemed so safe and focus-grouped.
It's basically the same movie as Tangled, just polished up and more attentive to what Disney's core demographics like.

The real problem with Frozen's story (as released) is that the conflict between the two sisters is actually completely resolved as soon as Ana tells Elsa that she needs to use her X-men powers to unfreeze the kingdom. The movie just keeps rolling on, though, for another 45 minutes. If you listen to the (mostly awful) demo songs on the special edition of the soundtrack you can see that the Ana/Elsa story was originally a lot more interesting, with Ana telling Elsa that for the good everybody else it's probably best that she puts the gloves back on. Elsa doesn't take that very well, and whether or not she goes full-on villainess at that point of the story or not, it at least gives the movie an emotional and idealogical conflict that sees it through to the conclusion.

Not saying they should have used this song, but when they dropped it and changed the conflict of ideas between the sisters to a simple misunderstanding it made the second half of the movie kind of pointless and completely removed Elsa's character arc, to the point she doesn't really have one.

 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
at least you saw it though, and I can tell you are not trying to bash anyone's parade on here. You put out your opinion and how you felt about the film and that is fine! Thank you for sharing!

Thanks for seeing that, Sped. It is appreciated.
:)

Not trying to rain on anyone's parade here...not my style.
Just wanted to come back and post my thoughts since a few had expressed interest in what i thought of it if i ever ended up seeing it.

I might not have been overly enthused about it, but regardless, i think it is great that 'Frozen' has been so successful.
WDFA needed this shot in the arm in some respects.
Getting that attention and recognition from the public at large for a project you helped to produce makes a big difference.

We all saw what happened when 'Beauty & The Beast' became a huge success and exploded into the public's awareness.
It led to it being the first animated film ever to be nominated for 'Best Picture' at the Oscars.
It led to even better films...climaxing with the epicness deluxe that was 'The Lion King' a few years later.
The same could happen with 'Frozen'. There is a possibility, if the correct steps are made.

I am interested to see what direction they turn now after this success.
Hopefully not a series of 'cloned films'.
As Bairstow above me noted, 'Frozen' comes off as a 'Tangled' clone to some.
I also had that opinion and still do, even after viewing it.



I am however hopeful this will encourage WDFA and the Company as a whole to continue producing animated films in the long run.
There have been some doubts over the years...some real ups and downs...but after this success under their belt i would think it would encourage them to step it up even more.
We shall see.
 
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Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
I'm totally with you. It was gorgeous, I enjoyed the music, but I didn't care about the story or characters (actually, I liked Olaf, Sven, and the shopkeeper but I tend to enjoy those small comic relief characters in things.) It might be me, but the story felt extremely rushed. I felt like it all happened so fast, I didn't have time to really care about what happened to anyone.

I am glad I finally saw it, though! At least now I get all the memes out there on the internets.


Ah..i find it interesting you found the story 'rushed'.
I did not get that impression. For me, i felt the story was dragged out a bit and could have been trimmed a little.

Like i mentioned earlier, it is indeed interesting how different people can see the same film and come away with completely different views.

The color palette of the film is stunning. The hues for some the backgrounds are very pleasing to the eye. I noticed this in several scenes.
I found myself looking more at what was in the background at times then the characters at times.
That is just the artist in me...as I pick up on those scenic things in animated features.

Something i forgot to mention in my review was that although the characters in general did not interest me as much as they could, i forgot about the Trolls.
I thought they were a unique character design and were interesting when on screen.
I would say they were my favorite characters if i were to choose some.
 

AndyS2992

Well-Known Member
Got my Blu Ray copy of Frozen this morning and just finished watching it for the first time.

From all the hype and attention it got I was expecting something legendary akin to the second coming of Jesus. That is not what I got and was left disappointed.

It was good, 7/10 but it was nothing special and does not really deserve all the hype. I especially find odd the popularity of Elsa over Anna since she comes across as very negative most of the time. Why do little girls love her over the much more fun Anna?
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So yeah, I was not that impressed and found Wreck it Ralph much better in comparison, but it was still a good film overall. I will rewatch it soon alone this time to see if it gets better on repeat viewings like some movies do.

If you have yet to see it and are aware of all the hype, lower your expectations a bit and you'll enjoy it a lot more and wont have to suffer the possible disappointment.
 
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Matt_Black

Well-Known Member
Why do little girls love her over the much more fun Anna?
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That's like asking why Superman is more popular than Jimmy Olsen. Not that Jimmy Olsen can't be fun (though most writers write a TERRIBLE Jimmy), but come on! Would you rather be the doofus in the bow tie, or the guy with heat vision?
 

Magenta Panther

Well-Known Member
I can see why people like Frozen, but I wasn't bowled over by the movie, mostly because it just seemed so safe and focus-grouped.
It's basically the same movie as Tangled, just polished up and more attentive to what Disney's core demographics like.

The real problem with Frozen's story (as released) is that the conflict between the two sisters is actually completely resolved as soon as Ana tells Elsa that she needs to use her X-men powers to unfreeze the kingdom. The movie just keeps rolling on, though, for another 45 minutes. If you listen to the (mostly awful) demo songs on the special edition of the soundtrack you can see that the Ana/Elsa story was originally a lot more interesting, with Ana telling Elsa that for the good everybody else it's probably best that she puts the gloves back on. Elsa doesn't take that very well, and whether or not she goes full-on villainess at that point of the story or not, it at least gives the movie an emotional and idealogical conflict that sees it through to the conclusion.

Not saying they should have used this song, but when they dropped it and changed the conflict of ideas between the sisters to a simple misunderstanding it made the second half of the movie kind of pointless and completely removed Elsa's character arc, to the point she doesn't really have one.



Yeesh. It sounds like "High School Musical". BLEAAHHHH.

I agree with your take on Frozen. Mix "Tangled" with "Wicked" and you get "Frozen" - a very bland formulaic politically-correct feminist-pleasing demo-calculated marketing-focused non-version of "The Snow Queen". It still reminds me of the Tinkerbell DVD "Secret of the Wings". But again, I am glad it's such a roaring success because of the good things it's done for Walt's animation studio. I just wish I liked it. I don't. I doubt I'll ever watch it again.
 

Matt_Black

Well-Known Member
Yeesh. It sounds like "High School Musical". BLEAAHHHH.

I agree with your take on Frozen. Mix "Tangled" with "Wicked" and you get "Frozen" - a very bland formulaic politically-correct feminist-pleasing demo-calculated marketing-focused non-version of "The Snow Queen". It still reminds me of the Tinkerbell DVD "Secret of the Wings". But again, I am glad it's such a roaring success because of the good things it's done for Walt's animation studio. I just wish I liked it. I don't. I doubt I'll ever watch it again.

A-ha! You said you weren't going to rag on Frozen anymore! I call shenanigans!
 

Tony Perkis

Well-Known Member
Got my Blu Ray copy of Frozen this morning and just finished watching it for the first time.

From all the hype and attention it got I was expecting something legendary akin to the second coming of Jesus. That is not what I got and was left disappointed.

It was good, 7/10 but it was nothing special and does not really deserve all the hype. I especially find odd the popularity of Elsa over Anna since she comes across as very negative most of the time. Why do little girls love her over the much more fun Anna?
confused.gif


So yeah, I was not that impressed and found Wreck it Ralph much better in comparison, but it was still a good film overall. I will rewatch it soon alone this time to see if it gets better on repeat viewings like some movies do.

If you have yet to see it and are aware of all the hype, lower your expectations a bit and you'll enjoy it a lot more and wont have to suffer the possible disappointment.

Wreck-It Ralph, in my eyes, is far and away the best film by Disney Animation since they began their CG work. Such a unique, intriguing plot.
 

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