ABQ
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Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom?
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Gomer
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It's a false choice. You can learn AND be entertained. (See: Cosmos...or 20th century Epcot)
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wdwvacationdad
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Colonial Williamsburg: 650,000 annual attendance
Busch Gardens Williamsburg: 2,750,000 annual attendance (with shortened season)
And if you look at a typical college football game, I bet there's more students in the stands than in class...it's pretty close.
But yeah, learning is kinda dying...
wdwvacationdad
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Great point. I don't disagree, but more people tune in to watch the NFL on a Sunday night than Cosmos (even though Cosmos is more entertaining than watching most NFL teams)
I would hope so, considering that Frozen teaches nothing about Norway or its history.
lazyboy97o
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And yet so much of the growth in themed entertainment is educational experiences. The idea that learning is dying is just not supported when one looks at what is happening outside the Disney bubble.
Mike S
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Man Cosmos was great. Take notes Disney, that's what you should do with Epcot. Just watch and learn (or, relearn since you did have it right then you ruined it).
WildcatDen
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Good thing you chose IP that has not had any sequels, thus extending the 'life' of the IP? Maybe those had an established, longer term revenue stream prior to the areas being built? Now, before you slide down your batpole we need to address the bigger question. So many people on the site claim (and most likely correctly) that EPCOT Center and World Showcase are not the place for a "Toon" invasion. All claims aside, equipped with an understanding that revenues can increase with minimal expense, do we really think TDO WILL NOT do this?
I have little doubt they will ravage the current Norway pavilion and replace far too much of it with Frozen miscellany. Which is what I take issue with....
willtravel
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I am already tired of anything Frozen.....................
WildcatDen
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I will take that even further and imply that this may just be the first (OK second - Thanks Donald) step in the process. Also, for the record, the idea of a Brother Bear water ride in Canada, I like it espcially if they play Off Kilter music in the rafts or logs. Maybe the Rat in France (that has been rumored to some extent), I look for EPCOT to become an MK part deux, maybe?
And yes, to most on this site, they will take issue as well. To the tourists who visit EPCOT because it is one of 4 parks in WDW, they may see it another way?
wdwvacationdad
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According to the NEA, Americans touring a park, monument, or museum is down 21%... museums have lost over 8 million people since their peak... the opening of science museums are at their lowest levels ever, and attendance is flat at best. I'm PRO-EDUCATION...but it's hard to deny that fewer Americans are spending time in art, history, or science museums. EPCOT is unique because it offers edu-tainment at such a large scale, BUT the reality is that no one is rope dropping to get to the China pavilion or Hall of Presidents. People who appreciate the science of Test Track are in the minority...they go to ride in a car really fast.
With that said, I'm pulling my kids out of school in 3 weeks so they spend a week at the parks--because we find it more educational than being in school.
Or, they may not. Neither of us speak for them....
WildcatDen
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Just bought some frozen chocolate coverend banana slices. Used to get the whole "Fozen-anna" at the zoo, it was a must on every visit but after a while, gnawing into the fronzen fruit killed your teeth. This new dessert is made up of packs of slices (4 per pack). Each slice is covered with dark chocolate and a sprinkling of nuts (insert joke here). Nom nom. A bit more costly per serving, but convenient (ooh, I detect a theme?)
WildcatDen
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Sorry - You are right. My disclaimer should be written as "The comments and views of one WildcatDen are his and his alone and not construed to represent a majority or a minority, simply an individual wasting his lunch hour. . ."
I guess at some point we have to ask if TDO has already began looking past Norway and what their possible plans are for other pavilions. The unwashed masses will no doubt flock to the Frozen pavilion and reinforce TDO's (or whomever's) belief that the idea was wise and in turn put every other pavilion in the cross hairs.
Id like to think the idea of EPCOT was to ENCOURAGE people to see things in a different way, not seek repetition.
BigTxEars
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Just checking, since I am fine with the Frozen layover on Maelstrom and I am looking forward to it am I one of the unwashed masses?
With the heat and humidity in central Florida, most people are, regardless of being a fan of the overlay or not. Please take no offense to my comment. People that sensitive are usually podcasters
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