Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom?

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lazyboy97o

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I don't think so. They have to give people enough time to prebook every second of their vacation.
People with vacation plans are already finding Maelstrom unavailable for FastPass+. It seems they want to avoid the obvious issue of this having nothing to do with Norway, and that would get brought up with an announcement now. Then again when the attraction closes and when it reopens. Waiting means they can consolidate any negative reactions.
 

Mike S

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People with vacation plans are already finding Maelstrom unavailable for FastPass+. It seems they want to avoid the obvious issue of this having nothing to do with Norway, and that would get brought up with an announcement now. Then again when the attraction closes and when it reopens. Waiting means they can consolidate any negative reactions.
It's funny that they could be looking for a solution for any negative reaction except for the one that's as plain as the nose on their faces. Don't do it in the first place morons!!!!!!!!! Build a Frozen ride in MK or DHS!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Mike S

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No, but we could start a fire with all the hand wringing.
A fire at Imagination? I'm in.
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Tim Lohr

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Frozen has already been introduced at MGM with the summer "party". My thought would be to use the Magic of Disney Animation buildings and build a new Frozen ride in its place. It is basically just a glorified meet and great area now and a shell of its former early 90's glory. This would give MGM a shot in the arm until Star Wars comes in. It fits this area much better than at Epcot and it gives MGM some much needed addition.

This would give this area of the park a new jolt and still leave room for Pixar Place to expand AND Star Wars to be added which would balance out the park. This would help the Toy Story Mania crowd as well.

I really worry that Disney is rushing into this and will shoot themselves in the foot. As others have said, they are being short sighted. Frozen isn't going anywhere and they could extend the MGM "party" for many more months while they take their time and build a solid ride from scratch, not just quickly throw an overlay together. It doesn't need to be an E ticket ride but they need to think about how to use the popularity of Frozen to benefit a park that needs it. MGM needs it more than Epcot.

I'm making a quick trip to Epcot in early September to ride Maelstrom a few last times and take video of it from all angles.

The Sing Along at DHS is probably the best attraction they could ever do for Frozen, since the music is the thing people seem to love most about the film, but you can't sing along or even hear Let It Go while speeding backward through Maelstorm
 

Sped2424

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It's funny that they could be looking for a solution for any negative reaction except for the one that's as plain as the nose on their faces. Don't do it in the first place morons!!!!!!!!! Build a Frozen ride in MK or DHS!!!!!!!!!!
What is sad is that the general public is going to eat this up and think it's a good decision. We are in a small minority that wants frozen out of epcot, almost everywhere else people are excited for this.
 

Sped2424

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im on record as not being against the frozen overlay .
i think the rumored or proposed 18 months downtime will really let TDO provide something new and fitting for the NW pavillion..

wishfull thinking? sure...
But this will be the flagship Frozen attraction and im hopefull for a classic disney dark ride and experience..
Again they could put an excellent ride in there, but the issue is there are plenty of other places to put it without destroying more of what the world showcase stood for. Also consider that unless they VASTLY redo the interior what they have to work with is a space that isn't very large or all that groundbreaking for an attraction. Many are sensing the mediocrity coming before it hits. I am sure if they actually put something mind blowing in there people would be a little happy, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Or I could be wrong which would be nice, but not as nice as having frozen not go in there in the first place.
 

squidward

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Little story about why I hate the Frozen overlay:

Every morning on the way to work, I pass this gas stove shop. There's this sign on the outside that looks like this:
Jotul-logo.jpg


Most of you will recognize this as a sign that also appears in the village at the end of Maelstrom. Whenever I pass this sign going to work, I always think of Maelstrom and how many days it will be until I see that sign inside Epcot again. It's corny. It's weird. But it's part of what makes Disney special to me. I always tell my wife how much I'd love to live in that little village. Joking of course, but there's just something about it.

There are the little things that I love about WDW. The smell of the orange groves in Horizons. The narration in the Living Seas (it rained...and rained....and rained). The 70's scene with the people in the hot tub/bar at El Rio De Tiempo. The final 1/3 of Spaceship Earth. This is just Epcot obviously, and it's all stuff that has gone away. Some of it I understand, but some of it was unnecessary.

Over at the Magic Kingdom, I LOVED the Snow White ride. It was gutted for Anna and Elsa. A ride based on (by adjusted ticket prices), far and away the most popular animated movie of all time, destroyed for a meet and greet with 2 characters that only girls care about and may very well be completely forgotten about in 5 years.

I guess what I'm trying to say is Disney, in my opinion, needs to find a way to stay current, but not destroy people's memories. Disneyland has managed to do it, and with FAR less space to do so. Why can't Team Orlando figure this out?
 

ChrisM

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I'm expecting multiple show scenes with Seven Dwarfs quality animatronics along with a few screens. While that's the bare minimum required to be considered an acceptable attraction, I bet the result would end up quite nice.

If they go cheaper than that then Katy bar the door.
 

Communicore

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The Sing Along at DHS is probably the best attraction they could ever do for Frozen, since the music is the thing people seem to love most about the film, but you can't sing along or even hear Let It Go while speeding backward through Maelstorm
They should have a soundtrack on the ride!
 

wdisney9000

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What are their plans for the stress that will be put on the few other attractions like Soarin, SE or TT when Maelstrom goes down? Since they are catering to the rubes (IMO) with this Frozen overlay, it kinda shows that they (Disney) recognize that people just simply want to "ride a ride" regardless of the value gained in experience. Loosing a popular attraction on the FP+ list is going to create longer waits park-wide. Throw in the fact that they will take 18 months (what a joke) to do it, only adds more butts in seats on the already limited number of selections and will quite possibly create issues with them, i.e mechanical. For instance, what if Soarin and Nemo go down for a few hours on the same day? Or TT is offline for a few hours? Thats a lot of bodies with few other "rides to ride". Do they have a plan, or is this not an issue? How will they keep the masses who just want to ride something entertained?
 

dadddio

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The Sing Along at DHS is probably the best attraction they could ever do for Frozen, since the music is the thing people seem to love most about the film, but you can't sing along or even hear Let It Go while speeding backward through Maelstorm
No, but perhaps you could want to build a snowman.
 

dadddio

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Again they could put an excellent ride in there, but the issue is there are plenty of other places to put it without destroying more of what the world showcase stood for. Also consider that unless they VASTLY redo the interior what they have to work with is a space that isn't very large or all that groundbreaking for an attraction. Many are sensing the mediocrity coming before it hits. I am sure if they actually put something mind blowing in there people would be a little happy, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Or I could be wrong which would be nice, but not as nice as having frozen not go in there in the first place.
Not to single you out, but every time I read a post like this, I do it in my Dick Cheney voice.
 

aladdin2007

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Little story about why I hate the Frozen overlay:

Every morning on the way to work, I pass this gas stove shop. There's this sign on the outside that looks like this:
Jotul-logo.jpg


Most of you will recognize this as a sign that also appears in the village at the end of Maelstrom. Whenever I pass this sign going to work, I always think of Maelstrom and how many days it will be until I see that sign inside Epcot again. It's corny. It's weird. But it's part of what makes Disney special to me. I always tell my wife how much I'd love to live in that little village. Joking of course, but there's just something about it.

There are the little things that I love about WDW. The smell of the orange groves in Horizons. The narration in the Living Seas (it rained...and rained....and rained). The 70's scene with the people in the hot tub/bar at El Rio De Tiempo. The final 1/3 of Spaceship Earth. This is just Epcot obviously, and it's all stuff that has gone away. Some of it I understand, but some of it was unnecessary.

Over at the Magic Kingdom, I LOVED the Snow White ride. It was gutted for Anna and Elsa. A ride based on (by adjusted ticket prices), far and away the most popular animated movie of all time, destroyed for a meet and greet with 2 characters that only girls care about and may very well be completely forgotten about in 5 years.

I guess what I'm trying to say is Disney, in my opinion, needs to find a way to stay current, but not destroy people's memories. Disneyland has managed to do it, and with FAR less space to do so. Why can't Team Orlando figure this out?

I understand what you mean as Im sure many others here do as well. It is those little things that make Disney, Disney. And it seems like one by one they are all being discontinued. For me it was Horizons and Imagination, SSE, Mr. Toad,,,now the Polynesian, and Norway changes. Scents and signs, colors, designs, atmospheres,,,sometimes I think they want nothing to do with it anymore and are purposly taking away what people love, granted at the same time I understand times changes and things have to be updated, but with many things Disney World it feels like they are taking giant steps back. Inferior replacements and half baked redos, ahem spaceship earth.

Regarding Norway I dont know what they plan on doing with that village at what is currently the unload. I cant imagine any of that staying with a Frozen makeover, unless they plan on correlating frozen with a Norwegian theme. Which is all still up in the air we are awaiting answers on.

**As a latest update, I have been in touch again with my contact and (I have to be careful how I state this) but Disney has vowed with upcoming changes, to keep the "Norway" in Norway. No elaboration is available right now, but Norway feels that Norway will still be represented and the Norwegian theme will not be destroyed or removed. It remains to be seen just what exactly that entails.**
 

dadddio

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What are their plans for the stress that will be put on the few other attractions like Soarin, SE or TT when Maelstrom goes down? Since they are catering to the rubes (IMO) with this Frozen overlay, it kinda shows that they (Disney) recognize that people just simply want to "ride a ride" regardless of the value gained in experience. Loosing a popular attraction on the FP+ list is going to create longer waits park-wide. Throw in the fact that they will take 18 months (what a joke) to do it, only adds more butts in seats on the already limited number of selections and will quite possibly create issues with them, i.e mechanical. For instance, what if Soarin and Nemo go down for a few hours on the same day? Or TT is offline for a few hours? Thats a lot of bodies with few other "rides to ride". Do they have a plan, or is this not an issue? How will they keep the masses who just want to ride something entertained?
This is true no matter what attraction is being refurbished. Surely, your solution is not to never do any rehab? That being said, I'm pretty certain that Maelstrom serves fewer guests than any of those other attractions, so it should have the smallest impact on the remaining attractions.
 

Sped2424

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Little story about why I hate the Frozen overlay:

Every morning on the way to work, I pass this gas stove shop. There's this sign on the outside that looks like this:
Jotul-logo.jpg


Most of you will recognize this as a sign that also appears in the village at the end of Maelstrom. Whenever I pass this sign going to work, I always think of Maelstrom and how many days it will be until I see that sign inside Epcot again. It's corny. It's weird. But it's part of what makes Disney special to me. I always tell my wife how much I'd love to live in that little village. Joking of course, but there's just something about it.

There are the little things that I love about WDW. The smell of the orange groves in Horizons. The narration in the Living Seas (it rained...and rained....and rained). The 70's scene with the people in the hot tub/bar at El Rio De Tiempo. The final 1/3 of Spaceship Earth. This is just Epcot obviously, and it's all stuff that has gone away. Some of it I understand, but some of it was unnecessary.

Over at the Magic Kingdom, I LOVED the Snow White ride. It was gutted for Anna and Elsa. A ride based on (by adjusted ticket prices), far and away the most popular animated movie of all time, destroyed for a meet and greet with 2 characters that only girls care about and may very well be completely forgotten about in 5 years.

I guess what I'm trying to say is Disney, in my opinion, needs to find a way to stay current, but not destroy people's memories. Disneyland has managed to do it, and with FAR less space to do so. Why can't Team Orlando figure this out?
The decision for Princess fairytale hall was in effect LONG before frozen was even on Disney's own radar. The film was never meant to go in there in the first place, that was a last minute decision. With or without frozen that space was being converted into what it is know.
 
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