Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom?

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wdisney9000

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This is true no matter what attraction is being refurbished. Surely, your solution is not to never do any rehab? That being said, I'm pretty certain that Maelstrom serves fewer guests than any of those other attractions, so it should have the smallest impact on the remaining attractions.
I guess your right. However, I recall visiting when TT was down for the refurb and Soarin went offline for just 2 hours one afternoon and every attraction went to a super long wait time. I guess thats expected but its just another reason why they should either build Frozen its own attraction or at least add something else in EPCOT before they do another extended refurb to an existing attraction. Feels like if Disney ACTUALLY cared about guests or enhancing their vacations that they would have planned this out better or added an attraction instead shoehorning one in. Im sure someone will come to their defense though with some -a-mammy reason as to why its getting done this way.
 

aladdin2007

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I guess your right. However, I recall visiting when TT was down for the refurb and Soarin went offline for just 2 hours one afternoon and every attraction went to a super long wait time. I guess thats expected but its just another reason why they should either build Frozen its own attraction or at least add something else in EPCOT before they do another extended refurb to an existing attraction. Feels like if Disney ACTUALLY cared about guests or enhancing their vacations that they would have planned this out better or added an attraction instead shoehorning one in. Im sure someone will come to their defense though with some -a-mammy reason as to why its getting done this way.

raising hand lol, but not in their defense thats for sure. It's cause they are cheap, cheaper to shoehorn it in than build something new, and because the Norwegian government did not step up to the plate.
 

Mike S

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I guess your right. However, I recall visiting when TT was down for the refurb and Soarin went offline for just 2 hours one afternoon and every attraction went to a super long wait time. I guess thats expected but its just another reason why they should either build Frozen its own attraction or at least add something else in EPCOT before they do another extended refurb to an existing attraction. Feels like if Disney ACTUALLY cared about guests or enhancing their vacations that they would have planned this out better or added an attraction instead shoehorning one in. Im sure someone will come to their defense though with some -a-mammy reason as to why its getting done this way.
It's getting done this way because it's a cheap way to draw crowds and cash in on Frozen. Can't think of anything more -a-mammy than that.
 

wdisney9000

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The Sing Along at DHS is probably the best attraction they could ever do for Frozen, since the music is the thing people seem to love most about the film,

Is that possibly due to a lack of anything else to enjoy about the film? Ya, little girls love the princess aspect of it, but as an adult, I found the story boring and exactly the same as every other princess story. The way they sang out conversations was extremely irritating also. Dont they serve alcohol at the sing a long? If so, I can make it work!
 

wdisney9000

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raising hand lol, but not in their defense thats for sure. It's cause they are cheap, cheaper to shoehorn it in than build something new, and because the Norwegian government did not step up to the plate.
It's getting done this way because it's a cheap way to draw crowds and cash in on Frozen. Can't think of anything more -a-mammy than that.

Yes, I agree. Im a proud member of team #DisneyIsTooCheapToDoItRight. I guess I meant that someone will come along to 'justify' why they are so damn cheap about it and thats its still magical!
 

aladdin2007

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Yes, I agree. Im a proud member of team #DisneyIsTooCheapToDoItRight. I guess I meant that someone will come along to 'justify' why they are so damn cheap about it and thats its still magical!

they probably will and the general guest and public will eat it up and not care. the olafs on a stick at the studios are sickening proof of that. One frozen is up and running in Norway, Norway will be impossible to even get near, I hate to say.
 

Hula Popper

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Little story about why I hate the Frozen overlay:

Over at the Magic Kingdom, I LOVED the Snow White ride. It was gutted for Anna and Elsa. A ride based on (by adjusted ticket prices), far and away the most popular animated movie of all time, destroyed for a meet and greet with 2 characters that only girls care about and may very well be completely forgotten about in 5 years.?

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Mike S

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they probably will and the general guest and public will eat it up and not care. the olafs on a stick at the studios are sickening proof of that. One frozen is up and running in Norway, Norway will be impossible to even get near, I hate to say.
Strangely I found one of those Olaf's ripped up on the floor in Sawgrass Mall. Guess they were giving them out at the Disney outlet store there.
 

RSoxNo1

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What are their plans for the stress that will be put on the few other attractions like Soarin, SE or TT when Maelstrom goes down? Since they are catering to the rubes (IMO) with this Frozen overlay, it kinda shows that they (Disney) recognize that people just simply want to "ride a ride" regardless of the value gained in experience. Loosing a popular attraction on the FP+ list is going to create longer waits park-wide. Throw in the fact that they will take 18 months (what a joke) to do it, only adds more butts in seats on the already limited number of selections and will quite possibly create issues with them, i.e mechanical. For instance, what if Soarin and Nemo go down for a few hours on the same day? Or TT is offline for a few hours? Thats a lot of bodies with few other "rides to ride". Do they have a plan, or is this not an issue? How will they keep the masses who just want to ride something entertained?
It's going to be some juggling because it sounds like the timing of Frozen opening will be +/- 6 months from Soarin' Over the World. In theory they can run the current Soarin' at half capacity, get the 3rd theater and 2nd theater up for Soarin' Over the World and then bring the last theater online after 2 of the theaters are open.

Can anyone ballpark how long it would take to upgrade the existing theaters to digital projectors/reprogram for Soarin' Over the World?
 

FerretAfros

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It's going to be some juggling because it sounds like the timing of Frozen opening will be +/- 6 months from Soarin' Over the World. In theory they can run the current Soarin' at half capacity, get the 3rd theater and 2nd theater up for Soarin' Over the World and then bring the last theater online after 2 of the theaters are open.

Can anyone ballpark how long it would take to upgrade the existing theaters to digital projectors/reprogram for Soarin' Over the World?
It probably depends if they're able to program the new show at one of the other locations (likely in Shanghai, since it can be done prior to the park's opening) and how much physical infrastructure will need to be changed or refurbished

In theory, they should be able to do a quick plug-and-play conversion that would only take a week or two. I believe the Star Tours conversion took a few months because of the physical changes to the queue and cabins. The programming had all been done ahead of time using the old Body Wars simulators and only needed minimal testing upon installation
 

JohnD

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Tokyo.

Also, man Epcot FP+ selections are horrible these days. As expected, no Maelstrom last week of October.

Agree. It also makes sense why they switched Maelstrom with LwtL in Tier 1 several months back. They knew that Maelstrom was going to be closed. For my October trip, Maelstrom is no longer an option. Now, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel in Tier 2. Captain Eo? Character Spot? Turtle Talk? Imagination? They're all walk-ons.
 
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