Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom?

[CDavid]

I did visit in 87. My point is they aren't "coasting". If they were, we wouldn't see anything new happening anywhere and that's simple not the case and that's obvious

From thefreedictionary.com: Coasting

To act or move aimlessly or with little effort

When you are coasting, you are still moving forward, you are not stopped completely. Recently, Walt Disney World has been doing very little, relying on the momentum of prior investment and construction. That is very much a description of coasting.

The construction going on now isn't because things have been neglected. If you look at it that way, you could make a case for any construction that it could have been done sooner and had been neglected until that time.

The expansions of the hub, AK, and Disney Springs is a big deal and that's obvious by the amount of construction going on

What I love is when people complain about Disney not doing anything and then turn around and also complain about them doing something (bad show, disruption, my favorite ride is down, etc etc)

my theory - some people are just going to complain even if it's perfect

When you put something off you really ought to be doing (like work this afternoon for many of us here...), that's called neglect. If you let your roof go for so long it starts leaking, that's neglect. Choosing to build a gazebo after you've saved up the money is not neglect. There is a difference.

There is also a difference between a justified complaint - something was broken or did not meet standards - and simply whining because you didn't get your personal preferences (Peoplemover closed during your visit, Anna & Elsa smiled more at the next kid, etc.). If you read what people are posting you can generally and quickly tell the difference between someone whining (which they have the right to do, but still) and a person who has a legitimate grievance.

Complaints on the news & rumors board here can get overblown occasionally, but seldom is there no justification whatsoever, and the source of the grievance is generally both documented and valid. You cannot arbitrarily dismiss a justified complaint just because there will always be complaints.

If this were a record would we flick the needle?

Smack it with a hammer...

 

[WildcatDen]

As for this thread topic, I would love to see Frozen get a larger attraction in multiple parks. If the start is an overlay in Norway, so be it. I will be sure to see it next time I am in the sunshine state.

 

[lazyboy97o]

So, are you saying Downtown Disney, soon to be Disney Springs will not attract people? If it does, it certainly must just be locals because no one would go to WDW and 'waste' a day at a 'mall' right? What were they thinking??? Tear it down and put in some real revenue generator. . . another DVC or two. By the way, I had a 1997 Lazyboy. Most comfortable chair I have ever owned. I miss it

It is something to fill time, but that doesn't make it a main draw. Very, very few people are going to book a vacation to see Disney Springs or the new Magic Kingdom hub. Locals may well make a special trip, but right now it seems they are starting to feel more and more alienated by Walt Disney World.

 

[WDWDad13]

It is something to fill time, but that doesn't make it a main draw. Very, very few people are going to book a vacation to see Disney Springs or the new Magic Kingdom hub. Locals may well make a special trip, but right now it seems they are starting to feel more and more alienated by Walt Disney World.

They may not book a trip just to see those things...but it may make their trip better and more enjoyable and therefore make them want to return. It's not rocket science here. What they are doing isn't just to bring more people in (though some things will) it's also to make it better for those of us that already go too.

Based on their parks revenue and numbers coming through the gate, they really don't have to do anything if they didn't want to (even though we all here want and need more)

 

[lazyboy97o]

They may not book a trip just to see those things...but it may make their trip better and more enjoyable and therefore make them want to return. It's not rocket science here. What they are doing isn't just to bring more people in (though some things will) it's also to make it better for those of us that already go too.

Based on their parks revenue and numbers coming through the gate, they really don't have to do anything if they didn't want to (even though we all here want and need more)

You already denied that what they are doing is about maintaining little more than what is currently offered. It can't be both just stuff to maintain what people have and big new things.

 

[Matt_Black]

Uh oh. Looks like someone's looking to get this thread closed...

Cheeky devil. Like bringing a flag to the Death Star.

 

[WildcatDen]

Uh oh. Looks like someone's looking to get this thread closed...

Yeah, sorry about that, I thought for a minute I was in one of the Spirits thread where anything goes. Still, Kong in Animal Kingdom could be epic. As would Jurassic Park. Oh the possibilities. I bet they would fix the Yeti as well.

 

[EpcoTim]

The parks are much better now.

Nostalgia is a powerful drug.

Opinion.

 

[WildcatDen]

Huh?

You made the comment that if TDO can not properly operate 4 parks, they shouldn't have built them. So, I simply provided a potential solution. Not only would changing DAK to UAK level the playing field, it could provide for some great updates to UAK. Scrap Pandora and build an impressive Kong area. And you cannot tell me that Universal would not totally blow Dinoland away with the Jurassic Park IP. It is a win/win, I tell ya. Why hasn't this already happened?

 

[Captain Chaos]

If this were a record would we flick the needle?

We'd shut the player off.... Which is what everyone needs to do... Turn them off and stop answering them... You are all going in circles... You can't get things through thick skulls... So stop trying... They are the reason we can't have nice things in WDW... When they settle for mediocrity, and anything, then the battle is lost... WDW is devolving into a place for the Honey Boo Boo's of the world, I.E. the lowest common denominator...

Like I said once before, there are people here who would be thrilled to be fed dog food as long as they were served it in Mickey ear shaped bowls... and then brag how Disney cares cause they served it warm...

 

[michael.fumc]

Okay so I have looked at ALL the post I have missed here and just to recap (please correct me if I am wrong), there is a strong rumor that Norway is getting a frozen overlay, this seems to be coming from insiders right?
Soarin 2.0 and new theater is still looking like it will happen but I see no time table.
Ratatouille ride is most likely not coming
Imagination and captain eo changes seem to be on the back burner
And there seems to be a out there blue sky dream to move iasw to Epcot, but that seems to be very unlikely,
Also the DVC rumor with a Epcot enterance seems to not be the next DVC, because river country will most likely be it if there is any.

This is how I have read everything here, please correct me if I have missed anything or I have misinterpreted something

 

[ChrisFL]

Okay so I have looked at ALL the post I have missed here and just to recap (please correct me if I am wrong), there is a strong rumor that Norway is getting a frozen overlay, this seems to be coming from insiders right?
Soarin 2.0 and new theater is still looking like it will happen but I see no time table.
Ratatouille ride is most likely not coming
Imagination and captain eo changes seem to be on the back burner
And there seems to be a out there blue sky dream to move iasw to Epcot, but that seems to be very unlikely,
Also the DVC rumor with a Epcot enterance seems to not be the next DVC, because river country will most likely be it if there is any.

This is how I have read everything here, please correct me if I have missed anything or I have misinterpreted something

Sounds about right to me

 

[lazyboy97o]

Okay so I have looked at ALL the post I have missed here and just to recap (please correct me if I am wrong), there is a strong rumor that Norway is getting a frozen overlay, this seems to be coming from insiders right?
Soarin 2.0 and new theater is still looking like it will happen but I see no time table.
Ratatouille ride is most likely not coming
Imagination and captain eo changes seem to be on the back burner
And there seems to be a out there blue sky dream to move iasw to Epcot, but that seems to be very unlikely,
Also the DVC rumor with a Epcot enterance seems to not be the next DVC, because river country will most likely be it if there is any.

This is how I have read everything here, please correct me if I have missed anything or I have misinterpreted something

"Blue Sky Dream" implies the idea originated inside Walt Disney Imagineering and there is no indication that it is anything more than a message board fad.

 

[michael.fumc]

"Blue Sky Dream" implies the idea originated inside Walt Disney Imagineering and there is no indication that it is anything more than a message board fad.

My bad still trying to learn all the titles for things, thanks

 

[cw1982]

My bad still trying to learn all the titles for things, thanks

I didn't know that was what blue sky meant either. I just learned something

 

[lazyboy97o]

My bad still trying to learn all the titles for things, thanks

Not a problem. It seems a good many Armchair Imagineers say they Blue Sky ideas but it is also a job and phase of development within Walt Disney Imagineering,

 

[EpcoTim]

All we do is complain about a lack of original park merchandise, but then complain when they give it to us as well.

So..... where is all this original park merchandise?

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

So..... where is all this original park merchandise?

Centerpiece in the new Marketplace Co-Op is stuffed with park and land specific merchandise. Much of it is retro and all of it is pretty cool.

 

[Matt_Black]

Centerpiece in the new Marketplace Co-Op is stuffed with park and land specific merchandise. Much of it is retro and all of it is pretty cool.

Neat! Anything in particular strike you as exceptionally nifty?

 

[Bolt]

Neat! Anything in particular strike you as exceptionally nifty?

Salt and Pepper garbage cans.