Frozen at Disney's Hollywood Studios for the summer?

ABQ

ABQ

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Bungalow4 said:
I see CMs from the Fireworks realm daily and I know they are scrambling because the budget needed for daily shows at DHS is big. If it gets approved they are being given a small amount of time to create something from scratch
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This is the part that's amazing to me most. They're actually looking to spend cash and so far, nothing concrete about any closures to offset the expense outside American Idle (sic) which, in theory at least, is unrelated.
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

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Bungalow4 said:
To a degree I can back up what Dave is saying. I am not disputing his sources. I just don't have the same sources and I was on vacation when this thing went viral. Here's what I know from my neck of the woods.

Meetings and e-mails began showing up quite a bit recently demanding ideas. And I know for a fact HP was brought up in one of those meetings. Not as a sole reason, but someone from a middle management standpoint at least mentioned they were not happy about the PR Blitz it created on the heels of SWW.

Some ideas stuck out of those meetings, but again they were just ideas. However some ideas have legs because CMs are being slotted for hours even if they don't know whats coming. Anyone who hasn't already been approved for vacation time in the next few months will not get any at this point from an entertainment standpoint.

This is still a very fluid situation. From where I am, meetings are occurring daily to get whatever "it" is off the ground and quickly (right after July 4th). Getting the ideas from concept to paper/design was supposed to take place this week to see what feasible. I see CMs from the Fireworks realm daily and I know they are scrambling because the budget needed for daily shows at DHS is big. If it gets approved they are being given a small amount of time to create something from scratch
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Gracias for filling in the gaps.....
 
Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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gmajew said:
Why do people rip people posting this they hear? It is a rumor site so they post what they hear and are comfortable with and then let it be that. Dave thanks for the info you provided.
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I think people are still annoyed at how some people invent things out of nothing. All to Just get attention.
It has happened before, so no surprise many are wary of any leak.
 
Matt_Black

Matt_Black

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gmajew said:
Why do people rip people posting this they hear? It is a rumor site so they post what they hear and are comfortable with and then let it be that. Dave thanks for the info you provided.
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I wasn't ripping anybody. I was being critical of those taking things as ironclad definite rather than as the hearsay and rumor that those plans, at this stage, are.
 
RayTheFirefly

RayTheFirefly

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GiveMeTheMusic said:
Production shows (i.e. Broadway style) aren't just thrown together in a couple months. It HAS to be a sing-along or some other cheap thing or it couldn't be hastily slapped together. A production show would require the involvement of WDI-CE, a writer, director, set designer, costume designer plus weeks of rehearsals once the show is actually created - easily a two year process, one if they really pedal to the metal (which Disney seems incapable of anymore).
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Unless they already had something in the works and like 70% done, or something like that.
 
Magenta Panther

Magenta Panther

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Fine, a fireworks show. That's okay. For now.

But THEN TDO should start making plans for a PERMANENT installation of Frozen in DHS, and make it stellar. I mean, Tower of Terror-level stellar. A major E ticket. Put the kingdom of Arendelle in the Streets of America area. Put a Frozen castle/dark ride where the Muppet courtyard is. Put artificial trees with "snow" and "ice" on them everywhere in those areas. Theme the HELL out of it. Who wouldn't want to walk into an enchanted land of ice and snow in the middle of balmy Florida? Christ, the possibilities are incredible here. But ONLY if TDO will grow a freaking pair and loosen the purse strings. Prove the Disney Imagineers aren't just faded has-been hacks.

Otherwise, Universal will eat Disney's theme-park lunch. End of story.
 
GiveMeTheMusic

GiveMeTheMusic

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RayTheFirefly said:
Unless they already had something in the works and like 70% done, or something like that.
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They didn't. Frozen caught Disney with their pants completely down.

Whereas, if this had been the mid-90's, a suite of in-park entertainment (parade/show, etc.) would have debuted on the film's release date.

Disney is now 100% reactionary, and it's sad as ****.
 
SJN1279

SJN1279

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GiveMeTheMusic said:
They didn't. Frozen caught Disney with their pants completely down.

Whereas, if this had been the mid-90's, a suite of in-park entertainment (parade/show, etc.) would have debuted on the film's release date.

Disney is now 100% reactionary, and it's sad as ****.
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But planning too far in advance can be a problem too. The Pocohontas scene in Fantasmic comes to mind immediately.
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

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Magenta Panther said:
Fine, a fireworks show. That's okay. For now.

But THEN TDO should start making plans for a PERMANENT installation of Frozen in DHS, and make it stellar. I mean, Tower of Terror-level stellar. A major E ticket. Put the kingdom of Arendelle in the Streets of America area. Put a Frozen castle/dark ride where the Muppet courtyard is. Put artificial trees with "snow" and "ice" on them everywhere in those areas. Theme the HELL out of it. Who wouldn't want to walk into an enchanted land of ice and snow in the middle of balmy Florida? Christ, the possibilities are incredible here. But ONLY if TDO will grow a freaking pair and loosen the purse strings. Prove the Disney Imagineers aren't just faded has-been hacks.

Otherwise, Universal will eat Disney's theme-park lunch. End of story.
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While I agree, I think the reason any delay is to judge whether or not Frozen has staying power or if it's a flash in the pan.
 
marni1971

marni1971

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Matt_Black said:
He didn't confirm anything. He made a statement without anything to back it up. "Confirmation" includes documentation and citations and such. Not saying he's wrong, but confirmation requires more than just saying something.
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There's certainly a desire from higher up to do this.

More than a desire. More like an order. Not a confirmation by any means but there again I'm not TDO PR.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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marni1971 said:
There's certainly a desire from higher up to do this.

More than a desire. More like an order. Not a confirmation by any means but there again I'm not TDO PR.
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In hindsight a sing-a-long really is one of those painfully obvious ideas that should have opened back around February or March. Hopefully now that there is some movement it is truly temporary until a stage show can be crafted.
 
Matt_Black

Matt_Black

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GiveMeTheMusic said:
They didn't. Frozen caught Disney with their pants completely down.

Whereas, if this had been the mid-90's, a suite of in-park entertainment (parade/show, etc.) would have debuted on the film's release date.

Disney is now 100% reactionary, and it's sad as ****.
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Part of the reason for that is that, after Tarzan, Disney Animation hit a bit of a slump. While many of the films of the 2000-2005 period were good, none came near the level of success of the Disney Renaissance films. After the Pixar buyout and Lasseter took over, they've been on a slow upswing. Now that Tangled, Wreck-It Ralph and Frozen have kind of established that WDAS is "back", then we meet see what we did in the mid-90s.
 

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