People don't know that though, so you missed my entire point. That is the problem.
There is a duty of care within Innkeepers common law to reasonably watch out for a guests safety. The fact they were hotel guests adds another dimension than if they were say, lifestylers watching fireworks. Given the hotel right across the street warns of alligators, I am starting to come around that there should have been signs posted.
Just don't reply to people not willing to have a normal discussion. It feels like they want it To never stop. Wish I did that days ago.
Not to mention that it is part of the water management system through all of WDW with a series of canals and natural water bodies all interconnected. The term "man made" doesn't imply that its like a pool or something similar. It has long since been claimed by the natural ecosystem in the area.
Correct it doesn't, but again a person generally doesn't associate a man-made lake & beach on vacation with having gators. It would've been so simple to have a sign up. I think that they were just playing with the odds and hoping that it would never happen so that everyone can enjoy the beach, and now they're going to go overboard, and a baby lost its life.
It was a water moccosin,Im all fairness, although it may have been, but it probably was not a water moccasin.
I don't want everyone reading this to think Big Snake = Deadly. Because most snakes that you will see, at Disney or most places in Florida, actually aren't deadly at all, or even dangerous.
I will say that when I've gone to Telluride or Aspen, I've never once received a pamphlet on wildlife from the lodge or chalet company. I bet if people really think about places they travel to, you'll realize you never receive it.. And aren't "warned" of it. Anywhere from California to South Carolina. Maybe certain national parks, or a select few certain places, but not the majority.
Where I live now has Deer signs on the side of certain roads. But not downtown and not on most busy streets or highways. Deer still run onto the highway, and still cause accidents. It's just rare, and it happens more than a gator attack- but still no signs- because it is considered such a slim chance.
Bottom line- Disney, and even Florida, aren't any less safe today than they were 5,10,20 years ago.
Seriously? It is universal (except maybe London
) that everywhere has the sun, everywhere does not have gators. The problem is most people don't expect a gator to be in there. That is true if you would've asked people or looked on these forums before this happened you would see that generally people weren't aware, that is not lack of education that is not an expectation. It would've been so so easy to have a sign up like they have at the shades of green across the street warning of gators. It wasn't scary, people walk still, but instead of going into the water slightly or walk next to it people walk a few feet back.
UM.. as far north as Myrtle Beach? My in-laws spotted one near their condo last month. And it's not a rarity according to them.
If this gets to trial that is absolutely correct.
Whoops! I should read closer! Sorry!
I agree with you! The illusion that this is a "beach" puts people in a whole different mindset from this is a "lakefront". I think I said this before that the trucked in beach sand is as much to blame for creating the atmosphere of a carefree beachfront as the lack of alligator warning signs is. It's all about the "illusion".
Exactly! And some have said that there are beaches along other lakes, which is true, and they really should have a warning, but Disney needed it even more as they bring tons of people out of state that don't necessarily know the risk. And what makes it even worse was that Disney knew thee were a ton of gators. Australia has signs that say Saltwater Crocodiles, national parks have signs that say bears. Why should Disney be any different if you know what I mean.
No matter what, they need the alligator signs. The horrible part is that it took till now to get it done.
True, but the odds of this happening again are so slim, but Disney had that mindset and look what happened. So in the long term, signs, and sea walls. And like you said even a boardwalk in some areas would do the trick I believe. Still though they're never going to get the kid back, I just wish Disney would've done something sooner.
