Pam Hates Penguins
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I cannot imagine the pain that this family is going through. I pray to Jesus Christ that He will help this family and their time of sadness.
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From the OS: Gator drags child into Seven Seas Lagoon
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21stamps
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They are not irrelevant. They are a RARE occurrence of something in nature attacking a human. Rare things happen. And it isn't hypothetical because shark attacks have happened..many very recently. So I asked you a direct question, not a hypothetical one.
People have been killed by gators in Florida before. But millions and millions of people do not ever get harmed by one.
It is ONLY because it happened at Disney World that people are now calling for barriers. Because for some unknown to me reason, people don't realize that Disney World is in Florida...which is a state that has alligators.
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Yup a alligator crawled out of the Atlantic Ocean onto the beach at Daytona yet these same people aren't clamouring to fence up daytona beach.
21stamps
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Exactly. They happen, we all get shocked. We all feel horrible for the victim and the family. But we don't demand to now be completely protected from that rare possibility. We definitely don't walk around thinking that we could be next. We hug our loved ones and take it as a horrible reminder of how short life could be.
FrankLapidus
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Some have plumbed new depths tonight.
A child dies so Disney puts up a temporary fence and they're complaining that if effects their views.
I've said it already but it sums up my response to them quite adequately (and wouldn't get me reprimanded my a moderator if I said what I really think): Wow.
I'm genuinely pretty disgusted by it but I'll leave them to it from now on, it's just not worth responding to or contemplating how someone's response to what Disney have done in the wake of this tragedy could be "but what about my view..."
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21stamps
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You have to separate the emotion of the child's death and the fence.
It doesn't mean someone doesn't care about him because we are upset at a fence. Maybe to you it does, but they aren't one in the same. One month ago we had a 1 in over 2 million chance of being attacked by an alligator. Tomorrow, if there wasn't a fence, we still would have a 1 in 2.4 million chance.
I think it's dumb. I also think it is insulting and hurtful to the family of that boy. Now they know a fence is going up, by they will forever think "what if it was 3 days prior?" "The fence should have been there before". When in actuality.. There was no need for it then and there is no need for it now. A horrible death happened...a 1 in 2.4 million odds happened. Unfortunately, and even more sadly, it happened while a family was vacationing at WDW.
R W B
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The fences do impact the view though. Let's talk reality, this tragedy happened a few days ago but you know what, the very next morning kids were smiling and families were having a great time riding space mountain, toy story mania and enjoying every other atttaction. Life goes on especially for people with no real connection to this family. With that said, this fence is not necessary. I think everyone with a trip planned in the next year knows about gators at Disney now and if they don't, proper signs and handouts at Checkin would be just fine.
fillerup
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I don't get why people are suggesting that this is temporary. Do you expect Disney to take down the fence in six months and issue a press release saying problem solved?
Just for laughs go to You Tube and look at a couple of videos of a gator climbing a chain link fence.
Just for laughs go to You Tube and look at a couple of videos of a gator climbing a chain link fence.
Matt_Black
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Big difference. As Seven Seas Lagoon is a man-made lake, Disney CAN be found liable for alligator attacks. Daytona Beach, being natural, is an entirely different issue.
21stamps
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I don't understand your point. Man made or nature made. An alligator can get in, they weren't placed there. They do have legs, and there are many natural bodies of water all around.
Matt_Black
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The point is- it's Disney's responsibility to either keep the gators out or keep the people out since it's their man made lake. Obviously signs and Cast Members shooing guests away from the water when they caught them wasn't working.
21stamps
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Ok so then we can leave the fences off of Bay Lake? Because it isn't man-made?
21stamps
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I'm sure they are drawing up plans for something as we're all here talking about it.
21stamps
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It's just people letting emotions drive them instead of thinking realistically.
We can all be emotional over this story yet still have enough common sense to realize that barriers aren't needed. Signs? Sure.
Totally unrelated- I do want to say something that I haven't seen anyone mention, or maybe it was and I missed it. But when you're praying for the boy's family, please pray for the divers who found him as well. That must have been one horrible day at work. I don't think they'll get that image out of their minds anytime soon.
If you think the fence was put up to keep alligators out well then I don't know what to tell you..
21stamps
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So you agree that it's basically useless. But yet people are horrible for saying that outright? Guess what is at every intersection? A sign (light) that tells you when to walk or don't walk. That way you don't walk into oncoming traffic.
There are not retractable fences. Yet somehow people read the signs.
FigmentForver96
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It's a frickin rope fence not a cement wall. Get a grip people...
It's not useless.. It was put there as a deterent to keep people from going into the water..
Bingo!!
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