From the OS: Gator drags child into Seven Seas Lagoon

[FrankLapidus]

Complaining about the aesthetic impact made by these fences, which might well be a temporary measure, in light of what has happened to cause them to be put in place seems to be missing the bigger picture here.

Is Disney sealing off access to the water that a child died in just a couple of days ago, something that might only be for the short-term while they investigate this incident and determine what procedural measures they should take to prevent the same thing happening again in the long-term, really enough to cause people to change hotels? Is it really going to impact that much on your holiday that they've put up a fence along the shoreline bearing in mind a two-year-old child has just died? Are people actually surprised or disappointed that this is how Disney have responded to what's just happened?

This isn't like Disney changing the Polynesian lobby or taking away beloved features that are unique to this resort. They're responding to a tragedy that could have been avoided by implementing the simplest means of doing so on their part. Is that really worth getting upset over in the grand scheme of things?

 

[R W B]

This is why I'm angry. We already have reservations at a monorail resort. I would still go on the beach without a fence. This is an over reaction to appease the public.

Exactly! Like I mentioned earlier this morning. Disney is only doing this to appease the public and the media, same with changing the Jingle Cruise script. They dont need any more negative press so they have to do anything and everything to get the public to go back to thinking they're in a bubble on property again.

 

[gmajew]

Don't know how many of you have seen them first hand yet. I have and walked as close as I was allowed to this evening to them and they really don't look bad.

I don't think they are the permanent solution and would,expect some theming to take place but even if they don't they look like boat docks.

They have no choice they had to put something up and now people are complaining it looks bad. They did it in less then a week time all in one day today. Think they did pretty darn good.

 

[Matt_Black]

Is that really worth getting upset over in the grand scheme of things?

You seem to have forgotten what board you're on. People darn near rioted here over the removal of hot plastic "cheese".

 

[Laura]

Disney knew

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/1...s-before-attack-reports-say.html?intcmp=hpbt3

They were being fed from the Bungalows.

This is an article from a couple days ago that just keeps being regurgitated by different news outlets.

 

[Laura]

They have no choice they had to put something up and now people are complaining it looks bad. They did it in less then a week time all in one day today. Think they did pretty darn good.

I am extremely impressed by how swiftly they got something up, and I don't think it looks bad at all.

 

[21stamps]

Complaining about the aesthetic impact made by these fences, which might well be a temporary measure, in light of what has happened to cause them to be put in place seems to be missing the bigger picture here.

Is Disney sealing off access to the water that a child died in just a couple of days ago, something that might only be for the short-term while they investigate this incident and determine what procedural measures they should take to prevent the same thing happening again in the long-term, really enough to cause people to change hotels? Is it really going to impact that much on your holiday that they've put up a fence along the shoreline bearing in mind a two-year-old child has just died? Are people actually surprised or disappointed that this is how Disney have responded to what's just happened?

This isn't like Disney changing the Polynesian lobby or taking away beloved features that are unique to this resort. They're responding to a tragedy that could have been avoided by implementing the simplest means of doing so on their part. Is that really worth getting upset over in the grand scheme of things?

My heart breaks for that family. Truly.

I can feel that way and also feel like the fence is ridiculous.
We don't stop going to a beach after a shark attack happens there. We don't stop going to a theme park after someone get hurt. People in parts of the country that have deer do not stop driving after someone hits one and is killed as a result. This list could go on and on.

As for the aesthetic being ruined. Yes, when I'm paying 600-800 per night to stay at a certain resort I would like to have the nice beach area that I know is there. Let's not kid ourselves the Poly, GF, and Contemporary are not luxury resorts. There are plenty of "luxury" hotels and resorts in Florida, nothing that Disney owns is one of them. But yet the people who stay at those resorts justify paying a higher price than the Breakers or any other luxury resort because of many factors. For myself personally, the entire "feel" of the resort is one of those reasons. Laying on a beach chair looking out at the lagoon is also one of the reasons.

If I honestly felt like people were more safe from an imminent threat than were before, then I would be applauding this action. But that's not the case. An alligator attack at WDW doesn't mean we will now all have the same thing happen to us. That's not how it works.

 

[FrankLapidus]

As for the aesthetic being ruined. Yes, when I'm paying 600-800 per night to stay at a certain resort I would like to have the nice beach area that I know is there. Let's not kid ourselves the Poly, GF, and Contemporary are not luxury resorts. There are plenty of "luxury" hotels and resorts in Florida, nothing that Disney owns is one of them. But yet the people who stay at those resorts justify paying a higher price than the Breakers or any other luxury resort because of many factors. For myself personally, the entire "feel" of the resort is one of those reasons. Laying on a beach chair looking out at the lagoon is also one of the reasons.

Wow.

A child has just died and some people here are actually upset that Disney have responded by putting up a fence in what may only be a short-term measure as an immediate response.

I don't know whether to be shocked, angry or just laugh. Maybe a combination of all three is appropriate.

 

[21stamps]

You seem to have forgotten what board you're on. People darn near rioted here over the removal of hot plastic "cheese".

I am the first one to think people are ridiculous over some of the things they complain about. I once read someone complaining about the brand of ketchup and couldn't even believe it.

The fence thing though? They know that it isn't necessary, yet are doing it anyway because of the public outcries for "safety", because apparently now people would rather live in a bubble than enjoy a beach.

 

[21stamps]

Wow.

A child has just died and some people here are actually upset that Disney have responded by putting up a fence in what may only be a short-term measure as an immediate response.

I don't know whether to be shocked, angry or just laugh. Maybe a combination of all three is appropriate.

Fair enough. But let me ask you this- with all of the shark attacks that have happened in the past couple of years, would you still let your children swim in that area? Or do you want it closed off?

I can be upset, people can be upset that a child died. It doesn't mean that drastic measures need to be taken. It doesn't mean we all feel or actually are "unsafe" because there was an alligator who attacked. It's a rare incident. Tragic and rare.

 

[R W B]

Complaining about the aesthetic impact made by these fences, which might well be a temporary measure, in light of what has happened to cause them to be put in place seems to be missing the bigger picture here.

Is Disney sealing off access to the water that a child died in just a couple of days ago, something that might only be for the short-term while they investigate this incident and determine what procedural measures they should take to prevent the same thing happening again in the long-term, really enough to cause people to change hotels? Is it really going to impact that much on your holiday that they've put up a fence along the shoreline bearing in mind a two-year-old child has just died? Are people actually surprised or disappointed that this is how Disney have responded to what's just happened?

This isn't like Disney changing the Polynesian lobby or taking away beloved features that are unique to this resort. They're responding to a tragedy that could have been avoided by implementing the simplest means of doing so on their part. Is that really worth getting upset over in the grand scheme of things?

It's a quick fix for the media, something to say "hey, stop talking bad about us, look we're trying to fix the issue we had before". This is the first death in almost 50yrs there out of literally millions of people. It's an over reaction, if this happened in the 80s/90s when social media wasn't a thing yet this fence would not be going up... Oh wait a boy was attacked in the 80s and no fence went up.

Don't know how many of you have seen them first hand yet. I have and walked as close as I was allowed to this evening to them and they really don't look bad.

I don't think they are the permanent solution and would,expect some theming to take place but even if they don't they look like boat docks.

They have no choice they had to put something up and now people are complaining it looks bad. They did it in less then a week time all in one day today. Think they did pretty darn good.

I hope they are not permanent!

I am extremely impressed by how swiftly they got something up, and I don't think it looks bad at all.

They had no choice unfortunately. If you take this fence and put it in the fence isle of your local Home Depot Im sure it looks good. But when installed in the middle of a beach at the most expensive and nicest resorts on WDW property, it's hideous and not needed.

My heart breaks for that family. Truly.

I can feel that way and also feel like the fence is ridiculous.
We don't stop going to a beach after a shark attack happens there. We don't stop going to a theme park after someone get hurt. People in parts of the country that have deer do not stop driving after someone hits one and is killed as a result. This list could go on and on.

As for the aesthetic being ruined. Yes, when I'm paying 600-800 per night to stay at a certain resort I would like to have the nice beach area that I know is there. Let's not kid ourselves the Poly, GF, and Contemporary are not luxury resorts. There are plenty of "luxury" hotels and resorts in Florida, nothing that Disney owns is one of them. But yet the people who stay at those resorts justify paying a higher price than the Breakers or any other luxury resort because of many factors. For myself personally, the entire "feel" of the resort is one of those reasons. Laying on a beach chair looking out at the lagoon is also one of the reasons.

If I honestly felt like people were more safe from an imminent threat than were before, then I would be applauding this action. But that's not the case. An alligator attack at WDW doesn't mean we will now all have the same thing happen to us. That's not how it works.

This gal gets it!

 

[FrankLapidus]

I am the first one to think people are ridiculous over some of the things they complain about. I once read someone complaining about the brand of ketchup and couldn't even believe it.

The fence thing though? They know that it isn't necessary, yet are doing it anyway because of the public outcries for "safety", because apparently now people would rather live in a bubble than enjoy a beach.

A child has been killed on the shoreline of a Disney lagoon by an alligator and Disney have done the simplest, most obvious thing they could in response and put up a fence and more signs as a short-term measure.

And you think that that is pandering to the public and trying to force people to "live in a bubble"?

Wow. Just wow.

 

[R W B]

Wow.

A child has just died and some people here are actually upset that Disney have responded by putting up a fence in what may only be a short-term measure as an immediate response.

I don't know whether to be shocked, angry or just laugh. Maybe a combination of all three is appropriate.

How is this fence going to help that family cope with their tragedy? It's not. You might say it will help prevent it from happening in the future. Well, what about the previous 45yrs that it hasn't happened at all....

 

[21stamps]

It's a quick fix for the media, something to say "hey, stop talking bad about us, look we're trying to fix the issue we had before". This is the first death in almost 50yrs there out of literally millions of people. It's an over reaction, if this happened in the 80s/90s when social media wasn't a thing yet this fence would not be going up... Oh wait a boy was attacked in the 80s and no fence went up.


I hope they are not permanent!


They had no choice unfortunately. If you take this fence and put it in the fence isle of your local Home Depot Im sure it looks good. But when installed in the middle of a beach at the most expensive and nicest resorts on WDW property, it's hideous and not needed.


This guy gets it!

I'm a woman not a "guy".lol

 

[R W B]

I'm a woman not a "guy".lol

Sorry lol. Fixed!

 

[Matt_Black]

I am the first one to think people are ridiculous over some of the things they complain about. I once read someone complaining about the brand of ketchup and couldn't even believe it.

The fence thing though? They know that it isn't necessary, yet are doing it anyway because of the public outcries for "safety", because apparently now people would rather live in a bubble than enjoy a beach.

Obviously it's necessary because as has been pointed out, guests don't always pay attention to or care about signs. A fence is VERY difficult to ignore. There should be absolutely no confusion now about whether or not you are supposed to be in the water.

 

[21stamps]

A child has been killed on the shoreline of a Disney lagoon by an alligator and Disney have done the simplest, most obvious thing they could in response and put up a fence and more signs as a short-term measure.

And you think that that is pandering to the public and trying to force people to "live in a bubble"?

Wow. Just wow.

If it is a short term measure and no visible barriers are put in place then I won't think it is pandering. I'm all for the signs.. But If a permanent barrier gets put up, then I will totally think it's to create a "bubble".

You didn't answer my question about the shark. Would you let your kids swim in the Outer Banks or anywhere else that has had shark attacks? Do you want those beaches to be blocked off?

 

[R W B]

A child has been killed on the shoreline of a Disney lagoon by an alligator and Disney have done the simplest, most obvious thing they could in response and put up a fence and more signs as a short-term measure.

And you think that that is pandering to the public and trying to force people to "live in a bubble"?

Wow. Just wow.

Well, she is right ya know. People do think of WDW as a bubble when they get hit with the pixie dust as they enter.

 

[FrankLapidus]

Fair enough. But let me ask you this- with all of the shark attacks that have happened in the past couple of years, would you still let your children swim in that area? Or do you want it closed off?

I can be upset, people can be upset that a child died. It doesn't mean that drastic measures need to be taken. It doesn't mean we all feel "unsafe" because there was an alligator who attacked. It's a rare incident. Tragic and rare.

You call a fence drastic?

I'm not interested in hypothetical scenarios. This isn't about shark attacks, they're completely and utterly irrelevant to this discussion about an incident on Disney property and the response that Disney have taken to it.

They could have permanently closed the beaches, they could have forbade anyone from going on to one again. They've put up a fence while they figure out what their long-term response to this should be and you're complaining that it impacts on your view.

I find that pretty disgusting.

How is this fence going to help that family cope with their tragedy? It's not. You might say it will help prevent it from happening in the future. Well, what about the previous 45yrs that it hasn't happened at all....

They're not doing it simply to help the family cope with what has happened, they're doing it as a short-term measure to prevent another family having to endure the same thing because Disney had to do something.

 

[21stamps]

Well, she is right ya know. People do think of WDW as a bubble when they get hit with the pixie dust as they enter.

I guess these people only vacation at Disney.

Because not everywhere else will have fences built around their waterways.

Oh and btw- really I hope anyone who agrees with this never goes in the ocean. Because no ocean resorts are out actively moving sharks and relocating or euthanizing them.