Food and Wine Nickel and Diming

[mastif]

Eight dollar wine tastings to control crowds and an economic meltdown are really in the same category...

I was thinking along the same thing. I was trying to imagine what a line would be like if they were to offer free samples... Kinda like how disney sells alcohol, but it's so ____ expensive that no one drinks enough to get drunk(not to mention their "cocktails" may as well be NA)


How big are the portions for $8? enough to fill up? I never got anything, but I remember them looking small...a few bites. for about $8 u can geta dbl cheeseburger with fries from EU and pretty much be full.

 

[sueuk]

I was thinking along the same thing. I was trying to imagine what a line would be like if they were to offer free samples... Kinda like how disney sells alcohol, but it's so ____ expensive that no one drinks enough to get drunk(not to mention their "cocktails" may as well be NA)


How big are the portions for $8? enough to fill up? I never got anything, but I remember them looking small...a few bites. for about $8 u can geta dbl cheeseburger with fries from EU and pretty much be full.

Without sounding like a pain - the idea is not to get full, but to enjoy new tastes and experiences. A bit like a mobile tapas bar!!

 

[durangojim]

What a low attempt at a try, jt!:lol: Quite wrong.

Do tell? The Declaration was signed on July 4th, 1776. FACT. America began then- Subjective Fact. Was that really the birth of our United States of America, or would that come later- with the signing of Constitution for all 13 Colonies/States? You'll find a billion opinions on it.
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Acutually most historians believe the declaration was singed on August 2, 1776. Congress voted to declare independence on July 2, 1776, and they finalized and approved the text of the declaration on July 4, 1776.

Thanks for the economics lesson. I'd save it for more worthy rightwing causes like 'you can't afford healthcare or insurance, then go die, this is America where nothing is free unless you're a bank, corporation or wealthy individual!'

As an aside, as a gun toting, right-wing, family doc who treats people from all walks of life, including those who have no insurance and who have medicaid and medicare, the idea that people regulary die due to lack of health insurance, while true in some instances I'm sure, has been greatly over exagerated and in many instances completely false. Health care definately needs reform, but what the Obamacare/Kennedycare is offering isn't the answer.

 

[yankspy]

I'm talking about smart business. Steve Wynn was recently quoted about the price points on food in Las Vegas and how they weren't real and were sustained only by expense accounts and credit. There was a great story in the Miami Herald a month ago where top restaurant owners and chefs stated the days of $40 entrees are over.

So, every market is getting necessary corrections based upon the flawed version of capitalism that made the past decade (or more) largely a lie.

Yet ... not at Disney.

They throw pixie dust in the air and keep raising prices and giving people less for their money. And then they turn around and discount their a$$es off ... it's dumb business, putting aside the whole idea of Disney exceeding guests expectations.

I suspect Disney will be the last to be forced to lower prices or improve on dining. They are in a somewhat unique situation in that in many cases they have a captive audience. Some people either do not have the ability to dine off-property or they choose not to. (magic and all that.)

Add the whole free dining thing into that equation as well. (not a fan)

 

[DisneyMusician2]

I suspect Disney will be the last to be forced to lower prices or improve on dining. They are in a somewhat unique situation in that in many cases they have a captive audience. Some people either do not have the ability to dine off-property or they choose not to. (magic and all that.)

Add the whole free dining thing into that equation as well. (not a fan)

The correction will happen, but not as quickly as everywhere else. Disney operates in much the same way as a professional sports team does.

-Raise ticket prices most years, whether you think you need to or not.
-Charge an absurd amount for food (captive audience and such)
-Continue to offer the same amenities while still raising prices
-Build new facilities to make more money, not necessarily to improve an experience.

Many sports teams this year are seeing decreased revenue and attendance, and have made adjustments already.

Disney will be slower in coming, but it must happen to keep the regular American tourist coming.

Or they need to offer the 4-and-3 every year. That was the ONLY way they made their quota last year and turned a small profit. If TDO thinks they can continue the way it is and suddenly resume the same profit level, I believe they will be sadly mistaken.

 

[BeachClub]

Personally, I didnt think the samples were anything to write home about in the first place, free or not free. If you dont want to pay, dont sample. If you enjoy tiny samples that you would get from your local grocery store for an $8 charge, then by all means have at it.
:goodnevil

 

[The Conundrum]

As an aside, as a gun toting, right-wing, family doc who treats people from all walks of life, including those who have no insurance and who have medicaid and medicare, the idea that people regulary die due to lack of health insurance, while true in some instances I'm sure, has been greatly over exagerated and in many instances completely false. Health care definately needs reform, but what the Obamacare/Kennedycare is offering isn't the answer.

My parents are also right-wing family docs but they have admitted that Obamacare/Kennedycare is the only solution. The insurance companies are too corrupt we need a public plan alternative.

 

[DisneyMusician2]

My parents are also right-wing family docs but they have admitted that Obamacare/Kennedycare is the only solution. The insurance companies are too corrupt we need a public plan alternative.

Not to continue the political debate, but you are right on this one. Insurance companies now are what the phone and utility companies used to be. They have the country by the you-know-whats and its about time people started taking back some responsibility and control from massive corporations whi always seem to find a way to kick the little guy.

 

[durangojim]

My parents are also right-wing family docs but they have admitted that Obamacare/Kennedycare is the only solution. The insurance companies are too corrupt we need a public plan alternative.

Not to continue the political debate, but you are right on this one. Insurance companies now are what the phone and utility companies used to be. They have the country by the you-know-whats and its about time people started taking back some responsibility and control from massive corporations whi always seem to find a way to kick the little guy.

I'm curious though, where in their plan is the cost savings and what exactly is the solution you're referring to??? I haven't seen anything comprehensive that sates what he wants to do in an economically viable way. The only things I've heard is that Obama is not interested in tort/malpractice reform (as evidenced by his speech at the AMA), and that he's says he's not interested in rationing of care. Medicaid, which is a public plan, allows for it's dependents to use and abuse the health system. Give something to some one for "free" and they will use it to the point of abuse, meaning that I have patients who demand CTs for symtpoms that don't require it or come in often for things that people who work for a living wouldn't think twice about. The only way to truly save money in health care is by rationing, and that won't happen. Nor do I think it should because it goes completely against what any doctor should feel about the sanctity of life and the quality of such. People hold up Canada as an example of a wonderful government run health system, yet few have direct experience with it. I have a number of patients who come to see me and live in Canada, they are all over 50, and are less than thrilled with how the system treats them. Regardless of the high premiums people pay for their insurance now, I can guarantee taxes will be just as high to cover the cost of a public plan. Health care isn't a right, and not everyone needs or wants insurance.

 

[Eeyore]

What on earth does the Food and Wine festival have to do with health care?! I'd appreciate it if this thread gets back to the topic at hand so it can stay open. Thanks!

 

[CBOMB]

What on earth does the Food and Wine festival have to do with health care?! I'd appreciate it if this thread gets back to the topic at hand so it can stay open. Thanks!

If you drink two glasses of wine a day you stay heathier. By charging $8 for what was once free, WDW is eliminating health care for all those who can not afford it. Understand now.

 

[jt04]

If you drink two glasses of wine a day you stay heathier. By charging $8 for what was once free, WDW is eliminating health care for all those who can not afford it. Understand now.

So we are back to health care so soon.

 

[The Conundrum]

I'm curious though, where in their plan is the cost savings and what exactly is the solution you're referring to??? I haven't seen anything comprehensive that sates what he wants to do in an economically viable way. The only things I've heard is that Obama is not interested in tort/malpractice reform (as evidenced by his speech at the AMA), and that he's says he's not interested in rationing of care. Medicaid, which is a public plan, allows for it's dependents to use and abuse the health system. Give something to some one for "free" and they will use it to the point of abuse, meaning that I have patients who demand CTs for symtpoms that don't require it or come in often for things that people who work for a living wouldn't think twice about. The only way to truly save money in health care is by rationing, and that won't happen. Nor do I think it should because it goes completely against what any doctor should feel about the sanctity of life and the quality of such. People hold up Canada as an example of a wonderful government run health system, yet few have direct experience with it. I have a number of patients who come to see me and live in Canada, they are all over 50, and are less than thrilled with how the system treats them. Regardless of the high premiums people pay for their insurance now, I can guarantee taxes will be just as high to cover the cost of a public plan. Health care isn't a right, and not everyone needs or wants insurance.

This video makes Obama's healthcare plan easy to understand for everyone and is told in a humorus way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jng4TnKqy6A

Watch it and let me know what you think

This has nothing to do with Canada's plan or any of the European Government run healthcare systems.

 

[CBOMB]

So we are back to health care so soon.

Not at all. Eeyore didn't understand the correlation between WDW charging $8 for something that was once free, and healthcare. I didn't understand either. So I came up with the only possible rational answer I could think of.

Do you think the Sheriff would approve?

 

[CBOMB]

This video makes Obama's healthcare plan easy to understand for everyone and is told in a humorus way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jng4TnKqy6A

Watch it and let me know what you think

This has nothing to do with Canada's plan or any of the European Government run healthcare systems.

I agree with Eeyore, get off of healthcare, and get back onto bashing TDO. Politics does not belong here, period.

 

[The Conundrum]

I agree with Eeyore, get off of healthcare, and get back onto bashing TDO. Politics does not belong here, period.

This thread has been hijacked. deal with it

 

[jt04]

This thread has been hijacked. deal with it

Are you talking to cbomb or the mods?

 

[The Conundrum]

Are you talking to cbomb or the mods?

Are you talking to me or the mods?

 

[jt04]

Are you talking to me or the mods?

If the floor is open for politics I think we would all like to know. I used to live overseas and received state run health care for a long time. Trust me, you don't want that. :dazzle:


:hurl:

 

[CBOMB]

Eeyore has spoken, and I srongly agree with her. This is not the forum for discussing healthcare or politics.

I think she made it perfectly clear if it continues this thread will be closed.