Fire breaks out Enchanted Tiki Room

flavious27

flavious27

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T-1MILLION said:
The sad thing is what is likely is that it will just reopen within a month's time as the same show it was before it caught fire.

I don't get my hopes up until that sign out front changes.
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True but wdw is where dreams come true. If they are going to be replacing the iago AA, the beancounters are going to look to see if that is the best that can be done or if marketing can research if a revamp will bring in more guests and cover the cost. The cheapest option is sometimes not always the best roi.
 
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T-1MILLION

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flavious27 said:
True but wdw is where dreams come true. If they are going to be replacing the iago AA, the beancounters are going to look to see if that is the best that can be done or if marketing can research if a revamp will bring in more guests and cover the cost. The cheapest option is sometimes not always the best roi.
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I agree, but I don't see it as likely...at all.

With insurance to fix it back up to just what it was prior to the damages they get what they wanted out of it. An operating attraction that allows more people through the turnsytles when the park is busy.

If only they do what others have also said and used it as a great PR oppertunity to bring back a more timeless show with improvements.
 
wdwfan22

wdwfan22

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puntagordabob said:
You have clearly never been to Disneyland.... lol there the show is usually full...the Tiki Garden where you wait is full... people in the crowd tend to sing, whistle, and get all into the show... Young & Old alike... the show works!

The reason the show was dying in the 90s is because Disney was letting it fall apart (sound familiar?) and who wants to sit and watch the birds lose their feathers (when they were not supposed to), birds whose mouths didnt work for months, roof leak damage, etc... the magic is lost with all that ....add to that the Offenbach number tended to put even ME to sleep (I love the Tiki Room!) and the craptacular situation is fully visualized!

WDW tried to fix it by updating it... and UNM was the result. The attraction is rarely full of people...and I have NEVER seen the crowd get into the show....not once! I am sure it has happened..but then again total solar eclipses happen too!

DLR tried to fix it by well FIXING the darn building...making Jose's flock gorgeous again....and the entire show building shine as it should! The story was shortened a bit including the removal of the Offenbach number. The result is a great timeless attraction that is probably as popular today (more perhaps even?) as it was in 1963.... DID YOU KNOW???? Disneyland has MERCHANDISE for their Tiki Room? Special Anniv events both on property and there are even some oraganized off property?

WDW's solution versus DLR's solution....its been close to 13 years now for UNM....the time has come to accept that DLR's solution was the better choice and it should have been the one WDW had chosen as well but they didnt. DLR's Tiki Room is a Plus for their park, can you say WDW's is so?

This fire is a Golden Opportunity for TDO to do whats right, and at the end of the day to look like Total Champs in the process....its a no brainer.... especially when you consider after 13 years the Original show (DLR's shortened version of it) will be new to so many people while being a returned love from so many other's pasts!
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I disagree with you. I have been to Disneyland and the show is hardly ever full there. Disneyland's audience is also different from Walt Disney World's. Disneyland is full of locals that visit the park all the time so yes they will recite the lines from the songs and so forth. In my opinion that isn't always a good thing. Some people on here kill me with how they feel Disneyland's audience is far superiors to Florida's. Changing the show back to the original in Orlando will still result in an empty theater.
 
ChrisFL

ChrisFL

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wdwfan22 said:
I disagree with you. I have been to Disneyland and the show is hardly ever full there. Disneyland's audience is also different from Walt Disney World's. Disneyland is full of locals that visit the park all the time so yes they will recite the lines from the songs and so forth. In my opinion that isn't always a good thing. Some people on here kill me with how they feel Disneyland's audience is far superiors to Florida's. Changing the show back to the original in Orlando will still result in an empty theater.
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....maybe, unless they can advertise it as "Walt Disney's Tiki Room" and promote it as such, the whole "remember the magic" thing.
 
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electricmayhemm

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Aladdin vs. Tiki

Aladdin has been ruining Disney tiki for a long time! I hate UNM so much. Tropical Serenade was much better.

In Disneyland, the Tahitian Terrace (http://www.yesterland.com/tahitianterrace.html) was replaced by none other than Aladdin's Oasis Dinner Show (http://www.yesterland.com/oasis.html). I never saw that show before it closed, but I have to imagine it was terrible. Last time I was at Disneyland, they had an Indiana Jones adventure skit in there (without retheming the area at all!). Indy came right out of the lion's mouth! Talk about a waste of space.

I agree with an earlier poster that the tiki room is usually full. People like it because it is air-conditioned and a great break in the summer heat. The Enchanted Tiki Garden is great for kids as well. I will have to search for it, but I recall seeing that the attendance numbers for the tiki room are very high and consistent.

Finally, pre-50th anniversary, the tiki room was in bad shape. But, they did a large refurb and the room is back to its original glory (minus Offenbach). I think that the renewed interest can be partially attributed to the refurb. I was there for the 45th anniversary, and let me just say that I doubt Disney needs to worry about it making $$. Kevin Kidney and Jody Daly could do a set of memoribilia for the relaunch and make a killing.

Aloha Iago! Don't come back...
 
flavious27

flavious27

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wdwfan22 said:
I disagree with you. I have been to Disneyland and the show is hardly ever full there. Disneyland's audience is also different from Walt Disney World's. Disneyland is full of locals that visit the park all the time so yes they will recite the lines from the songs and so forth. In my opinion that isn't always a good thing. Some people on here kill me with how they feel Disneyland's audience is far superiors to Florida's. Changing the show back to the original in Orlando will still result in an empty theater.
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Well the audience at dlr is more sensitive to changes to dl because they visit more often and the feeling is that if it isn't broke, don't fix it.

This also comes down to which park is the flagship and really it is hard to compare either resort and park that way outside of their respectable brands. DLR, WDW, DLP, DLT and HKDL are all different brands with different markets they reach. You can kinda of look at as how GM was.

WDW is chevy, they have alot of options and reach the most customers. DLR is more like buick, it doesn't have as many customers and there has been some trouble in the past when they tried to make it more popular.
 
jDoor

jDoor

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flavious27 said:
Well the audience at dlr is more sensitive to changes to dl because they visit more often and the feeling is that if it isn't broke, don't fix it.
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DLR is also 'walts park' and the people there are MUCH more sensative towards altering ANYTHING he had something to do with directly..


Rightfully so, IMO..
 
Disneyfanman

Disneyfanman

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wdwfan22 said:
I disagree with you. I have been to Disneyland and the show is hardly ever full there. Disneyland's audience is also different from Walt Disney World's. Disneyland is full of locals that visit the park all the time so yes they will recite the lines from the songs and so forth. In my opinion that isn't always a good thing. Some people on here kill me with how they feel Disneyland's audience is far superiors to Florida's. Changing the show back to the original in Orlando will still result in an empty theater.
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Gotta disagree on attendance at California's Tiki Room. Every time I have been to DL since the rehab the show has been full or close to it. Not only that, there have been people of all ages including the hardest to please......teens. The pre-show is also very popular and people get there early to see it.

People view it from a historical perspective, just like Lincoln. They also sing along, laugh and cheer. People don't do that with UNM. They go to the show and enjoy it and leave. Nothing special.

Even the CMs seem to have more fun in DL.

That said, I also don't know if the original show would work in Orlando like it does in DL. Different audience and many don't have the respect of the fans in California for the original Disney legacy attractions. The COP works but it's been updated a couple of times (Though it needs it again), and the Bears still pack em in, but maybe they really should revamp the entire show?

Also, there is nothing wrong in my mind of having different show experiences in different parks. It gives us something to argue about.
 
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Krack

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The DL Tiki Room is almost always full. The only time it empties it is around 5pm when everyone in the park moves towards the Rivers of America to get a spot for Fantasmic. But, of course, not only the Tiki Room, but almost every ride in the park, sees a drastic attendance drop around that time.

In DL, going to the Tiki Room is an event. You get to the pre-show area early and you enjoy your Dole Whip during the attraction. It becomes a "can't miss" park experience.
 
puntagordabob

puntagordabob

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wdwfan22 said:
I disagree with you. I have been to Disneyland and the show is hardly ever full there.
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Everything I have seen...almost everything I have heard from many various others.....and of what I have read.... is totally contrary to your experience...

As for the guest makeup being more local at DLR, thats true....but then again I suspect that that % is dropping... the last time I was at DLR in October 2010 I noticed a looootttt of tourists...

I must say though....the idea that DLR guests are somehow more able to cause more positive changes in their parks simply because they are "local" has not always been the case...from what I understand and I am sure some of you know this story 1st hand, In the 1990s DLR was not in the best place and suposedly during that time period most Disneylanders envied WDW.... the DLR "locals" became more organized and united together as a community.... I hope one day our WDW community will eventually follow their example...of course our locals can include people who visit every year! :)
 
unkadug

unkadug

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puntagordabob said:
Everything I have seen...almost everything I have heard from many various others.....and of what I have read.... is totally contrary to your experience...

As for the guest makeup being more local at DLR, thats true....but then again I suspect that that % is dropping... the last time I was at DLR in October 2010 I noticed a looootttt of tourists...

I must say though....the idea that DLR guests are somehow more able to cause more positive changes in their parks simply because they are "local" has not always been the case...from what I understand and I am sure some of you know this story 1st hand, In the 1990s DLR was not in the best place and suposedly during that time period most Disneylanders envied WDW.... the DLR "locals" became more organized and united together as a community.... I hope one day our WDW community will eventually follow their example...of course our locals can include people who visit every year! :)
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What exactly constitutes a tourist at Disneyland? Someone from Nevada? San Diego? Simi Valley? Santa Barbara County? Where is the line drawn?
 
Clever Name

Clever Name

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This is a great time to do a full update to the Tiki Room. Drop the old Poly theme and create zombie flowers that come back from the dead. The birds could sing some modern rap tunes and send text messages to the audience members. I'm looking forward to the improvements.
 
Bairstow

Bairstow

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I am Pele, goddess of fire and volcanoes. Some say I torment poor Ngendi, the earth balancer, for when my violent temper rises, the earth trembles at its foundation!
 
puntagordabob

puntagordabob

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unkadug said:
What exactly constitutes a tourist at Disneyland? Someone from Nevada? San Diego? Simi Valley? Santa Barbara County? Where is the line drawn?
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anyone not from California is where I draw the line... though from the way the do tickets out there I think TDA equates local as southern cali only...
 
flavious27

flavious27

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jDoor said:
DLR is also 'walts park' and the people there are MUCH more sensative towards altering ANYTHING he had something to do with directly..


Rightfully so, IMO..
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Ah, the walt walked here viewpoint. Just like we have the washington slept here viewpoint in the NE.

Both valid.
 

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