Finally made it onto Under the Sea...not impressed

KCheatle

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I agree OP. I wasn't that impressed by it. I thought it was like they tried to re-create the nostalgia of an older dark ride. But decades have passed since those classic dark rides were built. In this day-and-age, it doesn't cut it as a "new" ride. Plus, I think the quality is lacking. SO many rides with animatronics do a great job of hiding that they are animatronics. But, not this ride! That under the sea scene is terrible! I think it just looks lazy.
 

NemoRocks78

Seized
It's a basic dark ride, essentially a gateway attraction for Walt Disney World newbies. In that sense, it's pretty successful, as it's got the well-themed (and somewhat interactive) queue and show building, lively animatronics, and a solid story flow.

The fact that Disney spent money on TLM makes me hopeful that we'll get a new dark ride (Horizons 2? Figment 4?) at Epcot one day.
I gotta agree with this. I'm a fan of TLM. It's a dark ride for today's visitors. Great queue and a nice, relaxing ride. Ursula is awesome. I love going on it at DCA, and I can't wait to check out that incredible queue at MK.
 

acishere

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My issue, like others, is the flow of the story. In another thread a while ago someone defended it saying it was the story told from the view of Scuttle. Well he must have feel asleep for a big chunk of the story. Because going from Ariel becoming human -> to the kiss -> to the happy ending without explanation is just terrible story flow. Someone forgets their glasses they might not even notice the defeated without explanation Ursula in the background. If they insist on just retelling the movie plot, do it coherently.

The lighting is also an issue. It gives everything that plastic shine people are complaining about. Lower it and add a blue hue and maybe that will help.
 

Sped2424

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It is strange one. It sets you up to be an E-ticket from the outside and the queue. It then drops you down to a C or D Fantasyland ride with the exposed ceilings and basic animated figures, and then rises back up again with the Ursula AA.
I think the entire first half and last half of the ride need a total rework. The only scenes that come close to delivering are the kiss the girl scene and the poor unfortunate souls scene. Everything else needs help. My guess is they knew new fantasyland needed some sort of draw, so they designed the outside of the attraction to look like it was that draw.
 

The Empress Lilly

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Interesting comparison to PP. A beloved attraction with consistently long waits. TDO removes Snow White and long ago Toad and people complain. They put in a dark ride which is actually a step above standard dark rides and people complain.
PP is a good comparison. Pan has the magic. Simply by virtue of flying out that bedroom window and soaring over London. Such an iconic moment.

One of the most staggering problems of Mermaid is not what is there, but what is not there. Namely, the magic of going under the sea. How could they have dropped the ball on that? The magic, the gimmick, is right there in front of their eyes. If you do Mermaid, then it should've been done like that Tony Baxter proposal. By diving under and rising up to surface again. Some light projections and make pretend don't cut it. You need to integrate it with the ride system and show elements that create the sense of diving up and down. That grabs people's imagination. That would've been Mermaid's own Peter Pan magic. Ariel misses that. This princess does not fly to London and beyond. She just sits there and exists. When five minutes of imagination, of being touched by a real magic wand, is all it takes!
 

Communicore

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PP is a good comparison. Pan has the magic. Simply by virtue of flying out that bedroom window and soaring over London. Such an iconic moment.

One of the most staggering problems of Mermaid is not what is there, but what is not there. Namely, the magic of going under the sea. How could they have dropped the ball on that? The magic, the gimmick, is right there in front of their eyes. If you do Mermaid, then it should've been done like that Tony Baxter proposal. By diving under and rising up to surface again. That grabs people's imagination. That would've been Mermaid's own Peter Pan magic. Ariel misses that. This princess does not fly to London and beyond. She just sits there and exists. When five minutes of imagination, of being touched by a real magic wand, is all it takes!
They shoulda brought back the hydrolators!
 

copcarguyp71

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I would have to agree that the "build up" that the queue prepares you for is so immersive an all encompassing that once you actually get inside it is a let down. Like others have said...too bright, unfinished ceilings, point in the ride where you are staring directly across the scenery at riders in their omnimover car, low tech all make it pretty much of a "meh" for me. we rode twice last Sept and even then there were already animatronic malfunctions. Scuttle was not moving at all as you descend even though his audio was running, several static spinning creatures were not mobile and the eye in one of the evil eels was not lit. All small potatoes I know but not for a brand new attraction IMO.

I think I can almost get what they were going for with simplicity and hearkening back to a simpler time and I could almost buy into it if...
A) it was not one of the two big ticket featured attractions of FLE
b) it did not have such a build up in the queue that peaks the ride wayyyy too early.
 

Chef Mickey

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Interesting comparison to PP. A beloved attraction with consistently long waits. TDO removes Snow White and long ago Toad and people complain. They put in a dark ride which is actually a step above standard dark rides and people complain.
You raise a valid point that Disney loses either way. However, may I just point out the discerning guest isn't irrational in their opinion. It's simple and why I share the same opinion. Old dark rides like Toad and Snow White have classic charm and nostalgia that never age. The only way Disney can lose is removing them or changing them, including upgrading or "plussing" a classic. Not needed. Sometimes, Classic is just fine as is, just ask Coke.

On the flip side, the same guest expects major strides when a ride is newly conceptualized as the case with the Little Mermaid. Since we never had a dark ride or any ride for this attraction, it has no old charm or nostalgia factor which means it can't be half assed or even just slightly better than old dark rides.

I realize it's not fair, but Disney needs to figure this out because I really think I'm right and my opinion is shared by so many.
 
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Webb

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Could not wait for this new ride! We waited over an hour back in Jan 2013 only to be evacuated(technical difficulties) Do you know how hard it was to convince my husband to wait over an hour? VERY! So a few days later we go back and wait again, this time success! We are on! I figured we'd be blown away a new ride, new technology, new, new ,new! Well yes everything was new but we were left underwhelmed. I was surprised at how plastic everything looked! I didn't expect that. Ursula looked great IMO, and I had fun singing along and seeing all the wonderful under the sea characters! We did not do it again this past Jan and I'm not sure we will do it in May. I'm willing to give it a go again just because its The Little Mermaid! A childhood favorite and still to this day love it!
 

DaveN1996

Active Member
I think after all the build up we had for "new fantasyland", the whole area is a bit of a let down in the end.... Really you gained a ride (ok 2 once the coaster opens), a show (Belle), and a restaurant (while nice, it's still just a restaurant)... Yes the new also included the Dumbo update (kids love the waiting que and it gives us a break from the normal lines) and the updated barnstormer, but for all the hype brought by new fantasyland, it all in all is a bit of a "ok, that's it?"
 
I know it's been around for some time now, but I only just recently made it onto the Under the Sea-Journey of The Little Mermaid ride. Waits were often long and the one time we had a FP the ride itself broke down, so it took a while to finally make it on. Being part of the whole, big "new" Fantasyland, I expected it to be a pretty cool and sophisticated attraction with it being a newer ride and all.

Unfortunately I was pretty disappointed.

The clam-shell omnimover car idea is cute, but the cars themselves are WAY too close together. This makes it even worse when a lot of the ride has the cars and a slant angle where you view the insides of other cars and see so many other people. The large room filled with the characters is awful because for a time the cars face each other from opposite sides of the room, so your attention is drawn toward seeing the people (as well as being self-conscious about others seeing you). This design MASSIVELY takes away from the idea of being immersed into a ride and the fantasy world it presents.

With it being a newer ride I expected a little more in terms of advancement of the animatronics, but there were so many basic-looking things here with most things/animals just spinning or making the most simple of movements.

The actual concept of the visuals of the ride was good, and I liked going down (and below) at the beginning. I also thought a lot of the individual scenes had great potential, but they were not nearly as visually impressive as they could be (and again, the closeness of the cars and seeing so many riders in them distracted from this).

Overall, it was a good concept with the potential for great visuals and with so many characters it could have really pushed the envelope with animatronics.

But the cons far outweight the pros as it felt like it was all put together in a very rushed way, attention to details were almost non-existent, I saw animatronics that should have been moving that were not, and the animatronics that were there were very basic (except for perhaps Ursula, who was OK). Certain visuals COULD have been so much better, but looked like they were finished half-heartedly.

In should have been a fun ride and could have been a visual treat for the eyes and senses, but in my opinion it ended up feeling kind of cheap and dated-looking for such a newer attraction. And dated-looking isn't a bad thing when you have the charm and joy that comes with older Disney attractions, but this one seemed to miss the mark on so many levels.

All IMHO of course.

Other thoughts or opinions?


I couldn't agree more... been going to Disney World since mid 70's. Was looking forward to a new attraction to see what Disney would come up with. Very, very disappointing. I am sure very small children (4-9) will enjoy it but for anyone over that age is was and is in my opinion a complete bust!!!. Disney used to stand for excitement,wonder , adventure, magic. The animatronics that were used in the 70s was so advanced it was magical as it should be. This ride was put together as cheap as possible to give guests a new ride but with no thought , no imagination. The technology used is nothing new, it is 40 year old technology and provided no sense of wonderment or anything that made Disney so great....Seems like they are now content with putting out any product as long as people show up and are willing to pay.... very sad....
 

jlsHouston

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I think after all the build up we had for "new fantasyland", the whole area is a bit of a let down in the end.... Really you gained a ride (ok 2 once the coaster opens), a show (Belle), and a restaurant (while nice, it's still just a restaurant)... Yes the new also included the Dumbo update (kids love the waiting que and it gives us a break from the normal lines) and the updated barnstormer, but for all the hype brought by new fantasyland, it all in all is a bit of a "ok, that's it?"

That is kind of where I am at with FLE. The expansion and new rides and attractions are nice. I will even say BOG is a wow for dining. Unless 7DMT is really awesome, the entire FLE has ended up with me feeling no love just a like for the changes.
 

Killnme

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The line is better then the ride. Also, I have never been able to figure out how a ride like this one or PP that has a continuous moving belt always has such long lines. Get on, and get off not that hard people.
 

Chef Mickey

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I think after all the build up we had for "new fantasyland", the whole area is a bit of a let down in the end.... Really you gained a ride (ok 2 once the coaster opens), a show (Belle), and a restaurant (while nice, it's still just a restaurant)... Yes the new also included the Dumbo update (kids love the waiting que and it gives us a break from the normal lines) and the updated barnstormer, but for all the hype brought by new fantasyland, it all in all is a bit of a "ok, that's it?"
It's underwhelming for $700M for sure. I just wish SOME of the money went into EPCOT and the Fantasyland area was just expanded for the sake of space. Honestly, some of the new stuff wasn't needed. Barnstormer, dumbo, Belle, and even Ariel's ride could have been deleted. Keep Snow White and bring back Mr. toad or give us Pinnochio.

There are/were enough Fantasyland attractions before the expansion if they kept everything. The only new things needed were perhaps the new Mine Train and the restaurant to help with crowds. I suspect most of the money was spent on the mine train, so we will see.
 

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