FigmentsBrightIdeas
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Agreed 100%!
Total disservice/not true to the character & ride we were introduced to in the original 83-98 ride. Far, FAR below the standards & expectations established there.
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Total disservice/not true to the character & ride we were introduced to in the original 83-98 ride. Far, FAR below the standards & expectations established there.
FigmentsBrightIdeas
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It’s the equivalent of putting a fart or poop joke in a Winnie the Pooh film. It just feels SO wrong/disrespectful & makes you raise your eyebrows in disgust.. pathetic really. The original ride & characters were wholly sincere & charming, not at all crude, mean spirited, or gross.Agreed 100%!
Zak and Wheezie
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It's really just crude. Couldn't it be us smelling a more "odd" scent (one that's not just "flower" but something interesting)?
FigmentsBrightIdeas
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The”interesting part” is the original Infact ‘did’ have the scent of Roses pumped into the Dreamport & Realm of Art scenes. Meaning, it’s most likely a callback.. but it’s being disrpectful w it cause it’s like “Oh yeah, remember how you associated that wonderful smell with this ride? Well too bad, now you get skunk!”.
That’s how you tell a skunk is not a rose. It’s like.. seriously?? Talk about a total screw you to every fan and anyone really that remembers & loved the original. Just awful.. It’s really an entire mockery/slap in the face in all honesty. Mocking all the fan complaints through Figment and Dr. Channing playing the role of Imagineers behind the first 99-01 revamp (and the 02-current revamp) and how they felt about our complaints when it was changed. Talk about petty & ridiculous..
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Zak and Wheezie
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As someone who didn't really watch Dragon Tales when it was still airing, I grew a fond love for it. Immediately once I started watching, I thought, "this is like a Journey Into Imagination cartoon, except with no Figment or Dreamfinder". It's such an imaginative, hazy toon'.
When did this site suddenly get invaded by old school fans of PBS Kids? Has Iger messed up so badly that WDWMagic is slowly transforming into PBS Kids?
My mom (who was a huge Disney person) passed away in March 2021 at the age of 50 and always loved Figment (she never cared for the 2002-present ride). I just think of the environment, the settings of both. Just the colorful whimsical nature of the show. Reminded me exactly of Figment and I instantly found a lot of love for it.
Wheezie to me is just a female Figment. And Zak is essentially Dr. Nigel Channing... except if Figment and Nigel were cojoined twin dragons. I do understand that it is a common character dynamic, though. I bet Wheezie would be best friends with Figment if she ever met him! Ironically, it was the real showcase of Imagination, not the Figment-less 1999 version they had when the show first premiered.
To me, Dragon Tales is close to what Journey Into Imagination would be like if it was an educational cartoon rather than a ride. It's by no means the same, but it's got the same vibes.
Rodj
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Yep, it wouldn’t surprise me if TDO is part of the hurdle with this, considering the choices they’ve made with Tower of Terror’s show effects maintenance.
Zak and Wheezie
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I just remembered this video showing the terrible state of the ride... and it's from 2018; it was already badly outdated then.
FigmentsBrightIdeas
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Yup, beyond sad & frustrating.. Figment, Dreamfinder & their whole pavilion deserve SO much better.
Zak and Wheezie
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No joke, there's a part in the video where during the finale when the screens "explode" to reveal Figment's imagination, the ride malfunctions and you can't even see all of the Figments as the screens are still there blocking the view.
Cmdr_Crimson
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It's where the color sound wall/Simon like game is now shown here on the right hand side just as you enter imageworks...
And here's what the show was like in 2004..
Zak and Wheezie
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It's where the color sound wall/Simon like game is now shown here on the right hand side just as you enter imageworks...
And here's what the show was like in 2004..
You can hear unique Figment voice lines too! + unique animations. I wonder if the raw audio + animations will ever be uploaded.
FigmentsBrightIdeas
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They’ve been releasing merch there actually. There was a little straw and a Figment figure w flapping wings that got released there to success I believe. As did the Popcorn bucket But yeah, not sure how upper management took the results of that, let alone how the results turned out. But I hope they did well! Weird thing is though, they didn’t release that same straw clip at EPCOT for whatever reason. Not entirely sure why, but again, hey, if it’s getting the message to those in power at Disney that Figment, Dreamfinder & Journey Into Imagination deserve a bigger investment , that’s a good thing:
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Cmdr_Crimson
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I'm sure if they had built JII around 84 at TDL in Tomorrowland...It would have still been there with more enhancements as OLC wouldn't have it changed in any way...And if it wasn't for the obsession of Orange Bird out there we wouldn't have had a big comeback of him back in the US parks.
Speaking of..They've only realesed a Sipper of Him and not a popcorn bucket as of yet..
rle4lunch
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That'd at least be, "something!"
rle4lunch
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Don't get me started on SSE. LOL
Nobody nobody
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
DISNEY IS ALLERGIC TO FIXING THE IMAGINATION PAVILLION.
on the bright side, maybe we’ll get a clone of this in the future or something, idk if it happens. Wonder if dreamfinder will show up. How would they word this at d23 without ing people off lol.
Cmdr_Crimson
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If there isn't even actual source audio of the ride out there besides the finale song...Then I wouldn't hold my breath....
Yet here we have source audio of the original.
The atrocious 2nd version
And the 3rd version and it's the pavilions outdoor loop and the source version of the finale....
It's a shame they haven't released the 3rd version yet..But, I'm hoping someone out there will get there hands on it..
WaluigiTime
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WaltWiz1901
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Being someone who helps run a PBS Kids server on Discord...I certainly resemble that remark
funny how no one has yet mentioned that PBS has broadcast a technically Disney show before: Bill Nye the Science Guy