James Alucobond
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EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment
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DCLcruiser
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I hope not. The bionic-octopus woman scared the bajezus out of me as a kid. 3D glasses OFF!
Cmdr_Crimson
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I'd rather it be HISTA it got the crowds in that theater more than any time I saw Eo and Snooze of a film festival now on Disney+
WinnieBear
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Given what their blue sky plans were at D23 Expo and they attempted to replace the ride with an Inside Out attraction at one point (before Pixar told them to screw off), I don't trust current management with Journey into Imagination and to do what's right for Figment. I would rather them just leave it alone for right now until we get someone who actively wants to make it true to the original and not just tear it down and replace it with a ride based on a pre-existing Disney movie or what not for $$$.
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FigmentsBrightIdeas
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Personally I think that new Disney + short film, “Remembering” would’ve been the best thing to put in there for the time being. The message is about remembering the importance of creativity & imagination without any preestablished film or tv characters, franchises, or IP attached to it.. (Think it was dumb to put it on Disney Plus instead with the whole VR thing). Keep in mind, HISTA is the key factor that ruined the pavilion to begin with.) That or Magic Journeys, it actually had something to do with imagination & creativity.
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Cmdr_Crimson
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Well, as of this moment are hopes for "sparks" to happen is bit stagnant at the moment and putting HISTA back would work as we also have the new HISTK film with Josh Gad and Rick Moranis coming to Disney+. And with it still being an institute It still fits it's theme.. I always liked film especially while your waiting in the preshow area hearing the Terrifying screams when the chaos begins..
pdude81
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I spoke about this with one of those individuals and he indicated that he was working on a real refurb to Imagination. At a minimum, they understand that nostalgia makes money and that may be reason enough to stick with Figment (and hopefully return Dreamfinder).
FigmentsBrightIdeas
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While I understand the point you’re making. The issue is this then reaffirms the notion that this needs a film/tv IP theme tied into the pavilion and that Figment & Dreamfinder and the theme of Imagination aren’t fine on their own without it. (We all know that notion is clearly false. But not upper management sadly) Like I said before, remember what destroyed this pavilion/went against Figment & Dreamfinder to begin with. The Honey I Shrunk IP theme only works ‘against’ it. It won’t give any hope for Figment, it’ll only help decimate him further.
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FigmentsBrightIdeas
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You want more Honey I Shrunk stuff, put it at DHS. That’s where it belonged to begin with. ‘Not’ EPCOT. That was where the pre-existing/established film/franchise IP push in EPCOT began and what’s led us down the path we’ve gone down as it stands. We need to turn ‘away’ from that, not double down on it.
Cmdr_Crimson
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All I'm saying isjust get rid of the Disney+ Film Festival for now.. You can watch all 3 shorts on Disney+ (who knew?) . There is no reason for this to be there anymore and for the time being just put back HISTA in it's place until they can bring something else or better yet once a Re-imagining is in place gut that and the pavilion to expand the space for a ride bigger than it was before ..
pdude81
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I thought the stage blowing up effect was pretty cool.
Cmdr_Crimson
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The Muppet Theater blows up...
Or are you referring to the point where it shrank and the theater shakes around?
Phil12
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The current Figment/Dreamfinder concept will not return. It's fine for coffee cups, T-shirts, meet and greets and other nostalgic kitsch. However the fan base is getting ancient and Disney needs to focus upon more modern and inspiring ideas and notions. It was wonderful in its day, but its day is long ago and far away. There might still be some hope for diehard fans.
Twenty years ago Disney made that horrible Haunted Mansion movie with Eddie Murphy. It was a total failure. But now Disney is going to release another Haunted Mansion movie in 2023. It just goes to show that Disney will try again even if a concept such as Figment and Dreamfinder is a failure. They might decided to make a Figment/Dreamfinder movie and bring the whole thing back to life.
Twenty years ago Disney made that horrible Haunted Mansion movie with Eddie Murphy. It was a total failure. But now Disney is going to release another Haunted Mansion movie in 2023. It just goes to show that Disney will try again even if a concept such as Figment and Dreamfinder is a failure. They might decided to make a Figment/Dreamfinder movie and bring the whole thing back to life.
FigmentFan82
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The current Figment/Dreamfinder concept will not return. It's fine for coffee cups, T-shirts, meet and greets and other nostalgic kitsch. However the fan base is getting ancient and Disney needs to focus upon more modern and inspiring ideas and notions. It was wonderful in its day, but its day is long ago and far away. There might still be some hope for diehard fans.
D+ is and always will be a no brainer
DoleWhipDrea
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I was lucky enough to get a reservation for the Parks presentation at D23 - when the Imagination Pavilion showed up on the screens, I can't tell you how big of a knot was in my stomach. I was ecstatic and then - ugh. As someone said earlier - whiplash!
I do have a bit of a theory, though. I've noticed that the WDW-nostalgic things from D23 events generally gets saved more for Destination D than for the Anaheim expo. Case in point, there was nothing about EPCOT's 40th anniversary at D23. Also, a meet and greet taking until the end of 2023?! That's a ridiculously long time, which tells me 2 things - 1, the M&G will be a significant technical challenge, and 2...they may be holding out for Destination D to not just give us more info about the M&G, but news that Imagination will finally be getting a makeover with some concept art to show.
That's with what little hope I have left. And maybe WDI hoping for some changes within management...
I do have a bit of a theory, though. I've noticed that the WDW-nostalgic things from D23 events generally gets saved more for Destination D than for the Anaheim expo. Case in point, there was nothing about EPCOT's 40th anniversary at D23. Also, a meet and greet taking until the end of 2023?! That's a ridiculously long time, which tells me 2 things - 1, the M&G will be a significant technical challenge, and 2...they may be holding out for Destination D to not just give us more info about the M&G, but news that Imagination will finally be getting a makeover with some concept art to show.
That's with what little hope I have left. And maybe WDI hoping for some changes within management...
SailorMercury
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D23 has always been the event to please investors. Figment will probably be shown at Destination D. We got the blue sky session as a "hey, investors. Look at us" type thing.
SplashJacket
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No... D23 has always been the event to please fans.
Earnings calls have always been the event to please investors.
I'd like to see the massive swings in stock price following D23 versus your average earnings call.
Homemade Imagineering
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Speaking of which, I remember your postings on twitter a while back regarding Josh’s stance on the pavilion, and you mentioned it’s a matter of when the attraction goes down at this point. Since then have you heard anything new or interesting, or is that all you’ve heard thus far?
SailorMercury
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I heard that the people I got the information from were a bunch of liars that I blindly listened to LMAO
Homemade Imagineering
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Oh wow! Well, I guess it’s hard to really trust anyone on the internet without any substantial track record, especially when it comes to pressing matters like a much needed redo for this pavilion. Hopefully this new M&G location will do something for the future of this attraction, though I’d give it a good few years before anything comes to fruition. I’d love to be proven wrong though!