Rumor Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

[Mickeynerd17]

I just watched some videos of the original. It really holds up really, really well story wise. If they ever were going to recreate a classic, this would be it for WDW. Using today's technology with the original ride would be a slam dunk, especially given the love for Figment.

They could even change the turn table into a pre-show or something to get around that hurdle - since you could easily queue and board in the DreamPort scene, picking up the ride from there.

I don't delude myself to believe it's true. But, it really could be such an amazing way of reaching out to the Figment and Epcot fanbase in a way I think many people would love.

I'd bet money the turntable would be extremely easy to do with today's technology. Heck, the fact Rise exists should make the original JII a cake-walk.

 

[Epcot82Guy]

I'd bet money the turntable would be extremely easy to do with today's technology. Heck, the fact Rise exists should make the original JII a cake-walk.

Having actually talked to an engineer about this (the only tiny insider knowledge I have... Which isn't really insider knowledge at all... Haha).

I actually thought the same. What I learned - if they rebuilt it with a trackless, yes. But the building wouldn't lend itself to the totally flat floor required. And they would likely use the rest of the track and vehicles. So, that hybrid aspect is what would make it tough. You're totally right it can be done. It just may not make sense depending on what exact form the project might take.

 

[pdude81]

Having actually talked to an engineer about this (the only tiny insider knowledge I have... Which isn't really insider knowledge at all... Haha).

I actually thought the same. What I learned - if they rebuilt it with a trackless, yes. But the building wouldn't lend itself to the totally flat floor required. And they would likely use the rest of the track and vehicles. So, that hybrid aspect is what would make it tough. You're totally right it can be done. It just may not make sense depending on what exact form the project might take.

They would just have to spend the money to gut the inside and really redo it. I feel like this odd Figment M&G note is only half what they wanted to announce for the pavilion.

My guess is that they aren't really sure if a recession is coming in the next 6 months and would rather be vague than get destroyed by the fans for announcing things and then cutting back.

 

[Mickeynerd17]

Having actually talked to an engineer about this (the only tiny insider knowledge I have... Which isn't really insider knowledge at all... Haha).

I actually thought the same. What I learned - if they rebuilt it with a trackless, yes. But the building wouldn't lend itself to the totally flat floor required. And they would likely use the rest of the track and vehicles. So, that hybrid aspect is what would make it tough. You're totally right it can be done. It just may not make sense depending on what exact form the project might take.

I didn't mean making it trackless, I meant completely resurrecting the original ride system how it was intended to work. I think with modern computers the timing would work much better today than it did in '83.

 

[CJR]

They're probably trying to find a way to monetize the next ride.

"How much is more imagination worth? Tap to pay $5 and feed your imagination."

"Hooray! Let them pay!"

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Any chance we get Captain EO back?

 

[James Alucobond]

Any chance we get Captain EO back?

When his popcorn bucket starts fights.

 

[DCLcruiser]

Any chance we get Captain EO back?

I hope not. The bionic-octopus woman scared the bajezus out of me as a kid. 3D glasses OFF!

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Any chance we get Captain EO back?

I'd rather it be HISTA it got the crowds in that theater more than any time I saw Eo and Snooze of a film festival now on Disney+

 

[WinnieBear]

Given what their blue sky plans were at D23 Expo and they attempted to replace the ride with an Inside Out attraction at one point (before Pixar told them to screw off), I don't trust current management with Journey into Imagination and to do what's right for Figment. I would rather them just leave it alone for right now until we get someone who actively wants to make it true to the original and not just tear it down and replace it with a ride based on a pre-existing Disney movie or what not for $$$.

 

[Inspired Figment]

I'd rather it be HISTA it got the crowds in that theater more than any time I saw Eo and Snooze of a film festival now on Disney+

Personally I think that new Disney + short film, “Remembering” would’ve been the best thing to put in there for the time being. The message is about remembering the importance of creativity & imagination without any preestablished film or tv characters, franchises, or IP attached to it.. (Think it was dumb to put it on Disney Plus instead with the whole VR thing). Keep in mind, HISTA is the key factor that ruined the pavilion to begin with.) That or Magic Journeys, it actually had something to do with imagination & creativity.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Personally I think that new Disney + short film, “Remembering” would’ve been the best thing to put in there for the time being. Keep in mind, HISTA is the key factor that ruined the pavilion to begin with. That or Magic Journeys, it actually had something to do with imagination & creativity.

Well, as of this moment are hopes for "sparks" to happen is bit stagnant at the moment and putting HISTA back would work as we also have the new HISTK film with Josh Gad and Rick Moranis coming to Disney+. And with it still being an institute It still fits it's theme.. I always liked film especially while your waiting in the preshow area hearing the Terrifying screams when the chaos begins..

 

[pdude81]

Given what their blue sky plans were at D23 Expo and they attempted to replace the ride with an Inside Out attraction at one point (before Pixar told them to screw off), I don't trust current management with Journey into Imagination and to do what's right for Figment. I would rather them just leave it alone for right now until we get someone who actively wants to make it true to the original and not just tear it down and replace it with a ride based on a pre-existing Disney movie or what not for $$$.

I spoke about this with one of those individuals and he indicated that he was working on a real refurb to Imagination. At a minimum, they understand that nostalgia makes money and that may be reason enough to stick with Figment (and hopefully return Dreamfinder).

 

[Inspired Figment]

Well, as of this moment are hopes for "sparks" to happen is bit stagnant at the moment and putting HISTA back would work as we also have the new HISTK film with Josh Gad and Rick Moranis coming to Disney+. And with it still being an institute It still fits it's theme.. I always liked film especially while your waiting in the preshow area hearing the Terrifying screams when the chaos begins..

While I understand the point you’re making. The issue is this then reaffirms the notion that this needs a film/tv IP theme tied into the pavilion and that Figment & Dreamfinder and the theme of Imagination aren’t fine on their own without it. (We all know that notion is clearly false. But not upper management sadly) Like I said before, remember what destroyed this pavilion/went against Figment & Dreamfinder to begin with. The Honey I Shrunk IP theme only works ‘against’ it. It won’t give any hope for Figment, it’ll only help decimate him further.

 

[Inspired Figment]

You want more Honey I Shrunk stuff, put it at DHS. That’s where it belonged to begin with. ‘Not’ EPCOT. That was where the pre-existing/established film/franchise IP push in EPCOT began and what’s led us down the path we’ve gone down as it stands. We need to turn ‘away’ from that, not double down on it.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

While I understand the point you’re making. The issue is this then reaffirms the notion that this needs a film/tv IP theme tied into the pavilion and that Figment & Dreamfinder and the theme of Imagination aren’t fine on their own without it. (We all know that notion is clearly false. But not upper management sadly) Like I said before, remember what destroyed this pavilion/went against Figment & Dreamfinder to begin with. The Honey I Shrunk IP theme only works ‘against’ it. It won’t give any hope for Figment, it’ll only help decimate him further.

All I'm saying isjust get rid of the Disney+ Film Festival for now.. You can watch all 3 shorts on Disney+ (who knew?) . There is no reason for this to be there anymore and for the time being just put back HISTA in it's place until they can bring something else or better yet once a Re-imagining is in place gut that and the pavilion to expand the space for a ride bigger than it was before ..

 

[pdude81]

All I'm saying isjust get rid of the Disney+ Film Festival for now.. You can watch all 3 shorts on Disney+ (who knew?) . There is no reason for this to be there anymore and for the time being just put back HISTA in it's place until they can bring something else or better yet once a Re-imagining is in place gut that and the pavilion to expand the space for a ride bigger than it was before ..

I thought the stage blowing up effect was pretty cool.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

I thought the stage blowing up effect was pretty cool.

The Muppet Theater blows up...

Or are you referring to the point where it shrank and the theater shakes around?

 

[Phil12]

The current Figment/Dreamfinder concept will not return. It's fine for coffee cups, T-shirts, meet and greets and other nostalgic kitsch. However the fan base is getting ancient and Disney needs to focus upon more modern and inspiring ideas and notions. It was wonderful in its day, but its day is long ago and far away. There might still be some hope for diehard fans.

Twenty years ago Disney made that horrible Haunted Mansion movie with Eddie Murphy. It was a total failure. But now Disney is going to release another Haunted Mansion movie in 2023. It just goes to show that Disney will try again even if a concept such as Figment and Dreamfinder is a failure. They might decided to make a Figment/Dreamfinder movie and bring the whole thing back to life.

 

[FigmentFan82]

The current Figment/Dreamfinder concept will not return. It's fine for coffee cups, T-shirts, meet and greets and other nostalgic kitsch. However the fan base is getting ancient and Disney needs to focus upon more modern and inspiring ideas and notions. It was wonderful in its day, but its day is long ago and far away. There might still be some hope for diehard fans.

Twenty years ago Disney made that horrible Haunted Mansion movie with Eddie Murphy. It was a total failure. But now Disney is going to release another Haunted Mansion movie in 2023. It just goes to show that Disney will try again even if a concept such as Figment and Dreamfinder is a failure. They might decided to make a Figment/Dreamfinder movie and bring the whole thing back to life.

D+ is and always will be a no brainer