FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

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Jeff4272

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You silly, desperate little boy…

i live in New Jersey…and my young teens have spent several months (bout 6) of their lives in Disney hotels and using fastpass at our leisure…

and yet…it was still over all less effective as a Prebook as it was day of…

…and it exposed their lack of capacity for their crowd loads quite publicly with those 60/30 rules….but also the tiering. Dead giveaway from dia uno…

but that was an amusing stab at it…even if it’s coming from a somewhat sad level of desperation for a system that appears to be over
You don’t have to admit it but that’s the dynamic. You can deny it to try and make yourself feel better but it’s not true.

people that got FP+ at 60 days loved it and people that couldn’t hated it for the reasons explained.
it’s that simple
 
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Jrb1979

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You don’t have to admit it but that’s the dynamic. You can deny it to try and make yourself feel better but it’s not true.

people that got FP+ at 60 days loved it and people that couldn’t hated it for the reasons explained.

it’s that simple
For me I hated it due to the amount of planning involved. I preferred the original FP were it was day of. My hope is it is similar to DPA and they charge per ride with no advanced booking.
 

Jeff4272

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For me I hated it due to the amount of planning involved. I preferred the original FP were it was day of. My hope is it is similar to DPA and they charge per ride with no advanced booking.
Except when you didn’t get your fast pass b they were all gone when you got to the park but you must be forgetting that. Or remember that time you ran to soarin at rope drop and your return time was 10 mins before closing? That was awesome. That’s way better than knowing you had all 3 you wanted. Yeah. Good call.
 

Jeff4272

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Except when you didn’t get your fast pass b they were all gone when you got to the park but you must be forgetting that. Or remember that time you ran to soarin at rope drop and your return time was 10 mins before closing? That was awesome. That’s way better than knowing you had all 3 you wanted. Yeah. Good call.
People on these forums don’t tell the truth to push a narrative. Are your saying you would rather skip booking 3 guaranteed FP’s from the comforts of their house 60 days before as opposed to running 10 minutes across a park with a crowd of people after waking up at 5 or 6 in the morning to get a return time 6 hours later or possibly not getting one at all?

Makes no sense whatsoever.

Just to repeat this to make sure: Wake up hours early every single day on vacation to sprint to try and maybe get a ride vs doing it for your whole trip and guarantee you get 3 from the comforts of your own home one time that takes maybe 10 minutes? Definition of insanity


and the people that say yes need help
 
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Jrb1979

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Except when you didn’t get your fast pass b they were all gone when you got to the park but you must be forgetting that. Or remember that time you ran to soarin at rope drop and your return time was 10 mins before closing? That was awesome. That’s way better than knowing you had all 3 you wanted. Yeah. Good call.
They can update that version now. Use MDE on your phone and once you get into the park you can start booking your rides. For me I always at the parks at rope drop, so a system like DPA would be great for me. My issue with the whole 60 day advanced booking is I don't know that far ahead what I want to ride. I'm a more go with the flow person when I go to the parks. Making it day of and available on the app would be best for me.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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You don’t have to admit it but that’s the dynamic. You can deny it to try and make yourself feel better but it’s not true.

people that got FP+ at 60 days loved it and people that couldn’t hated it for the reasons explained.
it’s that simple
You’re defending a now defunct (possibly) system. I’m glad you liked it! The closed magic band factories in Canton Will appreciate that 👍🏻

but I still don’t get why it’s so personal?

is this stamps? JT?

Why is this “people that couldn’t get it at 60 days” showing up in multiple “response” posts? Did they tell you people couldn’t get it?
 

Jeff4272

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They can update that version now. Use MDE on your phone and once you get into the park you can start booking your rides. For me I always at the parks at rope drop, so a system like DPA would be great for me. My issue with the whole 60 day advanced booking is I don't know that far ahead what I want to ride. I'm a more go with the flow person when I go to the parks. Making it day of and available on the app would be best for me.
I understand people want to be spontaneous but there’s really only 6 rides in AK, and before galaxy’s edge there was maybe 5 in HS (and that includes toy story land) and 6 at best in Epcot. If you polled the top 3 rides people would want to FP in those 3 parks I bet 90% of people would answer the same rides.
 

Jeff4272

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You’re defending a now defunct (possibly) system. I’m glad you liked it! The closed magic band factories in Canton Will appreciate that 👍🏻

but I still don’t get why it’s so personal?

is this stamps? JT?

Why is this “people that couldn’t get it at 60 days” showing up in multiple “response” posts? Did they tell you people couldn’t get it?
It’s not personal. I stay in 3 BR villas last 3 trips and bought the 3 extra FP 2 of those trips and it was great. To be honest, it was too many in Epcot, AK and HS at the time (MK I could have a dozen and want more).

I can afford buying them.

Just saying all these people that complained about FP+, be careful what you wish for.
 

Jeff4272

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You’re defending a now defunct (possibly) system. I’m glad you liked it! The closed magic band factories in Canton Will appreciate that 👍🏻

but I still don’t get why it’s so personal?

is this stamps? JT?

Why is this “people that couldn’t get it at 60 days” showing up in multiple “response” posts? Did they tell you people couldn’t get it?
Nope.

just want to see how many people will be begging to go back to FP+ after the paid FP comes out and you can’t afford it and lines are 2 hours long.
 

Jrb1979

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It’s not personal. I stay in 3 BR villas last 3 trips and bought the 3 extra FP and it was great. To be honest, it was too many in Epcot, AK and HS at the time (MK I could have a dozen and want more).

I can afford buying them.

Just saying all these people that complained about FP+, be careful what your wish for.
I welcome a paid system due to it being more limited. If it's priced similar to Paris most people won't pay for it, where I will every time.
 

hopemax

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People on these forums don’t tell the truth to push a narrative. Are your saying you would rather skip booking 3 guaranteed FP’s from the comforts of their house 60 days before as opposed to running 10 minutes across a park with a crowd of people after waking up at 5 or 6 in the morning to get a return time 6 hours later or possibly not getting one at all?

Makes no sense whatsoever.

Just to repeat this to make sure: Wake up hours early every single day on vacation to sprint to try and maybe get a ride vs doing it for your whole trip and guarantee you get 3 from the comforts of your own home one time that takes maybe 10 minutes? Definition of insanity


and the people that say yes need help
Because you are assuming people have the same opportunity.

The worst one was traveling with friends who were DL AP holders who wanted to upgrade to that double resort AP. Quite pricey, isn't it? They were also staying at the Beach Club. Problem is in order to upgrade the pass they could only do it *in person* in Florida (they live in WA state). Which means no advance Fastpass, because no WDW ticket. They thought that once they got the upgrade, Disney would magically make sure they had the same FPs as the rest of us. After all they were buying the most expensive ticket option, staying deluxe and it's Disney. Nope. One friend tried to get them FPs to match ours, but he didn't know all the tricks. So then I spent 3 hours, while visiting AK trying to get everything lined up and teaching friend all the tricks. Got almost everything, but we did have to do the "they spent last night at Guest Services resolving a ticket issue, and they said they had made everything to match the rest of the traveling party" for one ride. It wasn't FOP, SDMT or Frozen, so I knew they would wave us through rather than tell 2 people out of 7 they couldn't ride.

In order for my family to ride Frozen the first time, I spent all day of Hurricane Matthew refreshing for cancelations for one of the next 2 days, because we can only book 7 days in advance and there isn't availability. We were limited to 7 days because my Mom provided her labor and all the other money my parents, DH and I spent on property wasn't in the "regular ticket or hotel room" bucket, so it wasn't enough to bump us into "same as everyone else." (but visiting with a friend who spends nothing other than a value room *was* enough for us to get those lovely 60 days...). I sat on the couch for 5 hours watching News 13, refreshing constantly in order to get it at the time we wanted.

This is also why I raise my eyes at all the refresh stories. I know how much time I've spent refreshing trying to get something for 2-4 people and my options are usually "nothing available," "the hour before park closing" or things like "Tough to be a Bug" and "Mickey's Philharmagic."

So yes, I would have much rather have just been able to get FPs "day of."

I am actually kind of curious to learn the pricing, because it might at least buy us a seat at the Fastpass table. We can always pay for it by skipping the F&B and merchandise that we were spending that got us no benefit. Same cash outlay for us as before, but better ride options.
 

Just4Pics

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UNPOPULAR OPINION: I like the changes that are being proposed.

I'm a local, used to have an AP and will again. One friend and I go maybe once every 3 to 4 weeks. If we assume the price to be between $10 and $15 a ride per person, allocating around $100 per person that would give us 7 to 8 rides. If it saves us an average of 45 min a ride that's 5+ hours of time savings for $100 per person. That's worth it for me. Especially since we don't have any of the overhead costs of flights or hotels.

This combined with the some kind of virtual queue could eliminate standing in long lines altogether. Seems like an improvement to me.

Let the crucifixion begin.
 

MrPromey

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I understand people want to be spontaneous but there’s really only 6 rides in AK, and before galaxy’s edge there was maybe 5 in HS (and that includes toy story land) and 6 at best in Epcot. If you polled the top 3 rides people would want to FP in those 3 parks I bet 90% of people would answer the same rides.
... which is why under that system, in two of those parks, you could usually only get a fastpass for one of those most popular attractions thanks to their tier system which, lets face it, was a blatant admission on Disney's part that they knew there weren't enough attractions in those parks to support FP+ and again, that's why a whole bunch of stuff that never needed any form of Fastpass suddenly got it when FP+ rolled out.

But it's not like any of this motivated them to do much about that underlying problem that whole time, is it?
 

Trauma

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UNPOPULAR OPINION: I like the changes that are being proposed.

I'm a local, used to have an AP and will again. One friend and I go maybe once every 3 to 4 weeks. If we assume the price to be between $10 and $15 a ride per person, allocating around $100 per person that would give us 7 to 8 rides. If it saves us an average of 45 min a ride that's 5+ hours of time savings for $100 per person. That's worth it for me. Especially since we don't have any of the overhead costs of flights or hotels.

This combined with the some kind of virtual queue could eliminate standing in long lines altogether. Seems like an improvement to me.

Let the crucifixion begin.
This would be true but most people don’t travel solo. For a family of 4 you would only get 2 rides for that $100. You can easily spend $1400 in a weeks time on fast passes.

Now even that wouldn’t be so bad if it didn’t cost $6000+ just for the room and park tickets.

For an average family of 4 this change will probably increase the cost of a trip by about 1k.

That’s a massive increase to come all at once.
 

MrPromey

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UNPOPULAR OPINION: I like the changes that are being proposed.

I'm a local, used to have an AP and will again. One friend and I go maybe once every 3 to 4 weeks. If we assume the price to be between $10 and $15 a ride per person, allocating around $100 per person that would give us 7 to 8 rides. If it saves us an average of 45 min a ride that's 5+ hours of time savings for $100 per person. That's worth it for me. Especially since we don't have any of the overhead costs of flights or hotels.

This combined with the some kind of virtual queue could eliminate standing in long lines altogether. Seems like an improvement to me.

Let the crucifixion begin.

I don't think anyone has reason to crucify you if you think it works for you. Local, having the disposable income and apparently only having to pay for yourself, it sounds like you could make it work which is great for you.

It's crappy for a lot of other people but at least you're self-aware enough to realize why your opinion probably isn't popular rather than acting like because it works for you, everyone should be happy about it.

that's just... honesty, really.
 

homerdance

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An opinion from outside our bubble:


Just adding it as something newsworthy without saying I agree or disagree with any of it.

Fool isn’t exactly newsworthy. It’s a clickbait site.
 
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