FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

[MrPromey]

Fool isn’t exactly newsworthy. It’s a clickbait site.

As could be said about just about any "news" source bothering to report on speculation like this.

It was something other than all of us yelling at each other so I figured I'd post it.

Read it or don't - I don't really care.

 

[flynnibus]

An opinion from outside our bubble:

3 Reasons Disney World Will Not Start Charging for FastPass | The Motley Fool

With Disneyland Paris introducing a new paywall for access to expedited lines, it's easy to see why Disneyland and Disney World may follow suit. Let's go over reasons why it might not happen.

www.fool.com

Just adding it as something newsworthy without saying I agree or disagree with any of it.

Fortunately - you can count on the worthiness of a fool.com article on Disney parks before you even click on them... as in zero.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Just saying all these people that complained about FP+, be careful what you wish for.

I’m wishing for legacy FP. I know that’s not what we will get but that’s what I wish for.

 

[MrPromey]

Fortunately - you can count on the worthiness of a fool.com article on Disney parks before you even click on them... as in zero.

So glad you know better than to bother reading it, then.

 

[flynnibus]

So glad you know better than to bother reading it, then.

I read it - and it didn't disappoint. On target for all their past pieces... usually just copy cat, baiting, or just loopy without any substance. This piece falls into the last bin.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

You know who has always charged to enter and a per-ride fee?

Traveling fairs and carnivals.

Guess what my family stopped attending years ago because the end price was ridiculous for what was on offer...

 

[MrPromey]

I read it - and it didn't disappoint. On target for all their past pieces... usually just copy cat, baiting, or just loopy without any substance. This piece falls into the last bin.

Welp, jokes on you since you read it after saying you didn't need to.*

Anyway, it's no more useless than at least half of the last 250 or so pages of posts here (plenty of mine, included), I'd say.

... But I thought it was at least something speaking for and to a different audience.


*Only messing with you - I know you put real thought into your posts and think through the majority of what you write around here way better than most.

 

[Waters Back Side]

I understand people want to be spontaneous but there’s really only 6 rides in AK, and before galaxy’s edge there was maybe 5 in HS (and that includes toy story land) and 6 at best in Epcot. If you polled the top 3 rides people would want to FP in those 3 parks I bet 90% of people would answer the same rides.

I know now what 3 rides I want to do in AK and both days at the other 3 parks. Several will be first time rides and others will be traditions for myself and my family. And yeah, you are so right...having them booked in advance is much better. Especially when I go only at the busiest times of the year.

 

[SourcererMark79]

Disney introduces Fastpass and the guests hate it and want the old standby queues.
Disney introduces Fastpass+ and the guests hate it and want the old paper tickets.
Disney introduces Virtual Queues and Boarding Groups and the guests hate it and want the old Fastpass+ options.
Disney introduces Paid Fastpasses and ... ?

And ...Bob's your Uncle!

 

[larryz]

Most recently, it was a military caravan (probably from McDill Airforce Base) that had three lanes closed on 275 because the front windshield of some armored vehicle - I don't know what but it looked like a semi-truck with trailer had got it on with a hummer and this was the offspring - had shattered and well, I guess they felt they needed to block off 3 lanes to deal with that because they were secretly transporting aliens or something.

More likely Florida National Guard. The Air Force generally doesn't convoy when they want to go some place -- they airlift.

 

[Incomudro]

People on these forums don’t tell the truth to push a narrative. Are your saying you would rather skip booking 3 guaranteed FP’s from the comforts of their house 60 days before as opposed to running 10 minutes across a park with a crowd of people after waking up at 5 or 6 in the morning to get a return time 6 hours later or possibly not getting one at all?

Makes no sense whatsoever.

Just to repeat this to make sure: Wake up hours early every single day on vacation to sprint to try and maybe get a ride vs doing it for your whole trip and guarantee you get 3 from the comforts of your own home one time that takes maybe 10 minutes? Definition of insanity


and the people that say yes need help

You've nailed it 100%.
I used to sprint (briskly walking - before anyone accuses me of running) clear across parks in efforts to snag fast passes.
Sometimes by myself, in an effort to get them for my wife and kids.
Sometimes with my wife and kids attempting to keep up with their shorter strides.
Securing key rides from the comfort of our home was great by contrast.
With those rides secure, we were free to work in rides with shorter waits around them.
It made everything far less hectic.

 

[G00fyDad]

More likely Florida National Guard. The Air Force generally doesn't convoy when they want to go some place -- they airlift.

I was in the United States Air Force and we would convoy. We did it several times as a matter of fact. I was stationed at F.E. Warren Air Force Base with the 90th Missile Squadron and we were present when they dismantled all 50 Peacekeeper nuclear missiles the United States had. We had to convoy the parts from one location to another. We didn't air lift anything.

 

[nickys]

Can you be both dvc and local AP holder?

Well you can, some DVC owners do live locally. Usually because they’ve moved after they bought DVC, and admittedly it’s a very few.

However the biggest perk “blue card” DVC owners get is to be able to buy an AP at the FL rate. So they’re paying the same for a Gold Pass which is usually only available to FL residents despite not being local. So in some ways they might count as “local AP holders”. Depends how you look at it.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Nope.

just want to see how many people will be begging to go back to FP+ after the paid FP comes out and you can’t afford it and lines are 2 hours long.

Oh that could happen….

…me? I’ll be content to beg for 1.0…only the things with lines and the Eisner expansion parks with 45,000,000 clicks…

not the same parks under equipped for 55,000,000 clicks

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I was in the United States Air Force and we would convoy. We did it several times as a matter of fact. I was stationed at F.E. Warren Air Force Base with the 90th Missile Squadron and we were present when they dismantled all 50 Peacekeeper nuclear missiles the United States had. We had to convoy the parts from one location to another. We didn't air lift anything.

We’re those the Nike missiles? We have the remnants of those based still all over the place

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Well you can, some DVC owners do live locally. Usually because they’ve moved after they bought DVC, and admittedly it’s a very few.

However the biggest perk “blue card” DVC owners get is to be able to buy an AP at the FL rate. So they’re paying the same for a Gold Pass which is usually only available to FL residents despite not being local. So in some ways they might count as “local AP holders”. Depends how you look at it.

If I remember the charts (they would occasionally publish them in DVC material)…Florida has one of he highest number of DVC members by state/region…

but it also used to be a great deal. Hasn’t been for a long time…so I bet those numbers have fallen

 

[phillip9698]

I wish I lived in this world where everyone got fast passes to the popular rides and everything was peaches and cream. I never saw a fast pass to either 7DMT or FoP and that's with having the 60 day benefit.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I wish I lived in this world where everyone got fast passes to the popular rides and everything was peaches and cream. I never saw a fast pass to either 7DMT or FoP and that's with having the 60 day benefit.

You had to pretty much do it first thing day off…like the stupid Cinderella reservations.

all of that “process” sucks…I don’t miss that…nor will I ever

 

[G00fyDad]

We’re those the Nike missiles? We have the remnants of those based still all over the place

No. They were the Peacekeeper nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles.

 

[Jedijax719]

You've nailed it 100%.
I used to sprint (briskly walking - before anyone accuses me of running) clear across parks in efforts to snag fast passes.
Sometimes by myself, in an effort to get them for my wife and kids.
Sometimes with my wife and kids attempting to keep up with their shorter strides.
Securing key rides from the comfort of our home was great by contrast.
With those rides secure, we were free to work in rides with shorter waits around them.
It made everything far less hectic.

Exactly! I feel like people (like me) are too afraid to say "hey, if you are worried about long lines, then get up in the morning 60 days before your trip, get on the computer or phone, and reserve the fast passes you most want!". A WDW trip already takes effort to plan correctly. What's another few minutes? We did our 60 day fast passes in about 20 minutes for a 6 day trip in 2018 and got what we wanted (granted we didn't do some of the biggest rides like Space Mountain, Flights of Passage, and Splash Mountain). The ONLY ride that was not available was FoP. We did 7DMT twice using FP. And all of this was during Spring Break. We had a 9/10 crowd level but never noticed it one bit.

Complaining about the impact of something you don't use that you have every opportunity to use doesn't seem to make sense. I still, to this day, cannot see how FP+ didn't work and what the problem is with it.

The mindset of "I want to go on a vacation to the most popular family amusement center in the world but I don't want to have to plan too much" is absolutely baffling to me.