FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

[disneyfreak0710]

We don't have the budget for paid FP+, so it's easy for me to say we wouldn't buy them lol. But if we DID have the money, I'm still really not sure if I would buy them. In fact, I really don't think I would.

I feel like I'm at the point where if they do away with FP+, and Disney isn't reasonably doable without them - well then, we'll just take our money and spend it elsewhere.

As a family of 4, the idea of having to spend $400 on admission and then $400-1200 more to be able to have an enjoyable trip pretty much ruins the magic. So many other places to see and go and experience.

 

[GhostHost1000]

We don't have the budget for paid FP+, so it's easy for me to say we wouldn't buy them lol. But if we DID have the money, I'm still really not sure if I would buy them. In fact, I really don't think I would.

I feel like I'm at the point where if they do away with FP+, and Disney isn't reasonably doable without them - well then, we'll just take our money and spend it elsewhere.

As a family of 4, the idea of having to spend $400 on admission and then $400-1200 more to be able to have an enjoyable trip pretty much ruins the magic. So many other places to see and go and experience.

This

 

[homerdance]

We don't have the budget for paid FP+, so it's easy for me to say we wouldn't buy them lol. But if we DID have the money, I'm still really not sure if I would buy them. In fact, I really don't think I would.

I feel like I'm at the point where if they do away with FP+, and Disney isn't reasonably doable without them - well then, we'll just take our money and spend it elsewhere.

As a family of 4, the idea of having to spend $400 on admission and then $400-1200 more to be able to have an enjoyable trip pretty much ruins the magic. So many other places to see and go and experience.

Not going to say the sky is falling, but if the standby lines are like they were with free fastpass and you have to buy them, our visits will change drastically. But I guess I am dumb enough to think that won’t happen.

 

[EPICOT]

Not going to say the sky is falling, but if the standby lines are like they were with free fastpass and you have to buy them, our visits will change drastically. But I guess I am dumb enough to think that won’t happen.

Exactly. If they expect me to pay $100+ a day to show up to a park with pre-pamdemic wait times and no free FP, then there is really no point in going.

 

[Angel Ariel]

The big word is October. Of course you're not going to wait long in October. But that doesn't apply to other times of the year. Going in October is not about using time wisely. That is just not possible for families unless they want to pull their kids from school. That's something that people without kids don't understand (I am not presuming you don't have kids-just saying in general).

Honestly, after the last year I expect families won’t care about missing school as much for a while.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Your money, your time, your fun and enjoyment. Everyone does not partake of Disney the same way and that is good.

Actually it’s bad...but I know that’s not popular around here.

 

[G00fyDad]

Actually it’s bad...but I know that’s not popular around here.

So we are all supposed to do Disney the same way?

 

[Jedijax719]

We don't have the budget for paid FP+, so it's easy for me to say we wouldn't buy them lol. But if we DID have the money, I'm still really not sure if I would buy them. In fact, I really don't think I would.

I feel like I'm at the point where if they do away with FP+, and Disney isn't reasonably doable without them - well then, we'll just take our money and spend it elsewhere.

As a family of 4, the idea of having to spend $400 on admission and then $400-1200 more to be able to have an enjoyable trip pretty much ruins the magic. So many other places to see and go and experience.

Great and honest point. When we went in 2018 we had an amazing time with our (then) 6 year old daughter turning 7. It scratched the limit and we got all the perks (except for POTC being closed due to the red-headed woman change). To enjoy the SAME kind of trip, we would have to spend what looks like $3000 more. Actually, spending that much more would probably give us less. NOBODY wants to pay more for less. That is never a good business model. It is horrible for something that is needed (electricity, water, health care, etc.) but for something that is a luxury? You can easily walk away from it and do something else (unfortunately, Universal is no better).

Seems like Disney is banking on people's desperation and addiction.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

you’re gonna pay $100 a day to get on test track or mine train??

...my point is: it’s not always a question of “can”

Yeah, no. I’m in the category of people that **can** afford this but definitely won’t do it. I’ve got a trip planned in July and another in December. If the new fastpass system is anything Ike the lightning system, then the trip in July will be the last I take with my family to Disney World. I’m a DVC owner, but we’ll sell out of that as well.

 

[Grumpy4196]

I would rather have no FP instead of a paid option. I will not pay extra to skip line. (don't buy Universal Express either) This may be the end of WDW for me depending on how this is implemented. If park capacity is reduced enough compared to pre-covid levels standby lines may be tolerable. Its bad enough the "value" resorts are creeping up to the $250-$300 (Pop is over that depending on time of year and room category) range for rack rates. Disney is quickly pricing out the middle class people I am afraid.

 

[Hollywood704]

Honest opinions. What do you feel the reaction would be if Disney copied Universals completely?

Deluxe hotels grant you unlimited fast passes per day.
Then for the rest, you had the option to say increase your ticket per day by 50 bucks to get 1 fast pass per ride. Or 85 per day to get unlimited.

I'd pay for the unlimited everyday. It's worth it. We do it at Universal and every other park that offers it.

 

[Hollywood704]

I would rather have no FP instead of a paid option. I will not pay extra to skip line. (don't buy Universal Express either) This may be the end of WDW for me depending on how this is implemented. If park capacity is reduced enough compared to pre-covid levels standby lines may be tolerable. Its bad enough the "value" resorts are creeping up to the $250-$300 (Pop is over that depending on time of year and room category) range for rack rates. Disney is quickly pricing out the middle class people I am afraid.

Ok ill say hi as I'm walking past you with my fast pass.

 

[Grumpy4196]

Places like Universal can get away with it due to the fact their parks have considerably less guest in them so even with the Express passes the standby lines still move faster than Disney's standby lines when FP was available.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Honestly, after the last year I expect families won’t care about missing school as much for a while.

I would think that since statistically not having regular school has set todays kids back at least a half year in their lessons. Missing more now when the schools open again may be more of a problem then before the pandemic. I would think that they would want to help the kids catch up a little. If anything our youth need way more useful education not less.

 

[Angel Ariel]

I would think that since statistically not having regular school has set todays kids back at least a half year in their lessons. Missing more now when the schools open again may be more of a problem then before the pandemic. I would think that they would want to help the kids catch up a little. If anything our youth need way more useful education not less.

I’m not commenting on whether anyone should - that’s a decision for each individual family to make. But after 15 months of families having serious levels of stress dealing with virtual schooling, with little to no breaks, and the mental health issues that have arisen for so many, I expect the next year or so at least people will be willing to take off whenever they can make it happen.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

I'd pay for the unlimited everyday. It's worth it. We do it at Universal and every other park that offers it.

How large is your family? Assuming a standard family of 4, you're totally fine with an extra $8,400 for a 7 day vacation? On top of everything else? Since you're claiming to not care about that kind of expense, I assume you're already staying in Deluxe Accomodations, so you just literally doubled the total cost of your trip. For something that used to be included. I mean cool that you're fine with that I guess. I can afford it too but it's hilarious that Disney thinks people in my income class will just eat that cost. You can get a much better value with literally almost any other kind of family vacation at that price point.

 

[DisneyNittany]

So we are all supposed to do Disney the same way?

No, but that’s not his point.

When people make fiscally irresponsible decisions it has an impact on everyone, not just them. Regardless if one can reasonably afford it or not, willingly paying more for less without really thinking is not responsible, whether it breaks the bank or not.

 

[G00fyDad]

No, but that’s not his point.

When people make fiscally irresponsible decisions it has an impact on everyone, not just them. Regardless if one can reasonably afford it or not, willingly paying more for less without really thinking is not responsible, whether it breaks the bank or not.

I understand that point. But that's not the statement he made. The other person simply made the statement that we all do Disney differently and that's good. He replied that it wasn't and that was bad meaning that everyone should do Disney the same way.

Don't get me wrong, I will not pay for fastpass if it's extremely expensive. If it's somewhere around the neighborhood of $50 to $100 per person per day then I would be willing to do this for a couple of days but not every day of the trip. And it would most certainly end any future trips to Disney for us. I'm obviously going to be taking this next trip regardless of fastpass or not because I'm such a huge Star Wars fan that I have to experience Galaxy's Edge at least once in my life. After that I doubt I will ever go back to Disney World again since Disney seems hell-bent and determined to price out everybody who doesn't make seven figures a year.

 

[nickys]

No, but that’s not his point.

When people make fiscally irresponsible decisions it has an impact on everyone, not just them. Regardless if one can reasonably afford it or not, willingly paying more for less without really thinking is not responsible, whether it breaks the bank or not.

Who judges whether something is “fiscally irresponsible” though?

Does irresponsible simply mean “without thinking”? In which case you could end up with two people coming to the same decision, one of them thinking about it carefully and the other not doing so. But ne is a responsible decision and the other is not.

Or is it the actual decision that is irresponsible? In which case how someone reaches that decision is neither here nor there.

@Sirwalterraleigh apparently decided that my reasoning was an understandable one. And yet someone else who appears to have decided much the same thing was not given the same “approval”. The other person gave less reasoning in their answer but that in itself doesn’t mean they didn’t think about it.

Now how can two people taking the same action possibly impact people differently, simply because one allegedly thought about it more carefully? That doesn’t make any sense. And yet that seems to be what you’re suggesting.

 

[HauntedPirate]

How large is your family? Assuming a standard family of 4, you're totally fine with an extra $8,400 for a 7 day vacation? On top of everything else? Since you're claiming to not care about that kind of expense, I assume you're already staying in Deluxe Accomodations, so you just literally doubled the total cost of your trip. For something that used to be included. I mean cool that you're fine with that I guess. I can afford it too but it's hilarious that Disney thinks people in my income class will just eat that cost. You can get a much better value with literally almost any other kind of family vacation at that price point.

For that kind of coin, I’d rather do any Disney park other than WDW. YMMV.