mergatroid
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Disney bringing in a paid fast pass system called a Lightening Pass (rumoured)I am aware that other people do like him and that’s fine, I’m not for everyone and neither is he.
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Disney bringing in a paid fast pass system called a Lightening Pass (rumoured)I am aware that other people do like him and that’s fine, I’m not for everyone and neither is he.
What is he saying?
The jist of it is it will be part of Genie and the average price would be between $100 to $300 per person per day. It would also change to be more like Universal's system in that you no longer have to pick a time to come back.I am aware that other people do like him and that’s fine, I’m not for everyone and neither is he.
What is he saying?
Unlimited or once per ride per day?The jist of it is it will be part of Genie and the average price would be between $100 to $300 per person per day. It would also change to be more like Universal's system in that you no longer have to pick a time to come back.
At DL it’s (going to be) used at 2 rides. You can only be in one queue at a time but the drop times are different. With a bit of luck you could ride both RotR and the Spider-Man ride on the same day.As usual, MickeyViews has a very informative video today. Well worth the time. But in my opinion has a couple false assumptions but only as it pertains to virtual queues.
For starters, I don't think virtual queues will be available on a widespread basis due to the issues that are pointed out in the video. My opinion is that it will be two or at most three attractions per park if implemented. The big four of course (Tron, Guardians, RotR, and FoP) will be mainstays for a very long time. Then a secondary offer of the next popular ride. Either because it is the newest or a popular classic. For example the MK would be Tron and the 7DMT. Because these rides exclude younger families they would need to include a third choice. Likely PPF. By limiting each park to two or at most three virtual queues, you eliminate the concerns pointed out in the video. And of course guests can only choose one option per day. Basically everyone with a reservation gets to choose one timed fastpass ("boarding group", "virtual queue").
What's in it for guests and Disney...
It takes stress off of RotR as it eliminates that being the only mega E ticket virtual queue. Certainly RotR reservations/virtual queues will fill first but those locked out will have great options remaining.
It greatly reduces park hopping because many will be committed to that return time. Guests will spend substantially more time collectively in the parks and a lot of strain is taken off of the transportation system. That extra time will be spent shopping and eating rather than lost hours on transportation. This also translates to a better guest experience for most IMO. Win-Win. Just because you are waiting for a return time doesn't mean guests won't be waiting in other queues, eating. or shopping.
Just my two cents.
Unlimited.Unlimited or once per ride per day?
At DL it’s (going to be) used at 2 rides. You can only be in one queue at a time but the drop times are different. With a bit of luck you could ride both RotR and the Spider-Man ride on the same day.
But in your scenario, I’m curious how being limited to one VQ per park per day “translates to a better guest experience”? And there’s also zero evidence people will shop more, they could just be in more stand-by lines. I know I would be. I’ll have paid for my ticket, not going to buy more just because I’m in a virtual queue.
Yes Pricing is dynamic.Does Universal do dynamic pricing for their Express Passes? For reason I keep thinking they do...
UOR does have a one per day AND unlimited option.Unlimited or once per ride per day?
If it takes more guests out of the FP line seems like a plus. Unless more people start to cheat the system.What effect would this new " Lightning cash grab " have on guests with Disabilities?
IF you are able to use it with hopping, and IF you are able to add it to just one day of your ticket, I'd consider buying it for one day of our multi-day trip. That day would be hopping from park to park to ride the major attractions. Other days would be more leisurely touring of the parks. I guess I'm not alone in this. Which means Disney will probably make it so you can't use it when hopping.Honesty a paid option is ideal. No return times. Unlimited is a bonus.
I would definitely pay for it for one day if it meant I could get things done quickly. And I don’t think it would have as negative an impact as FastPass did.
IF you are able to use it with hopping, and IF you are able to add it to just one day of your ticket, I'd consider buying it for one day of our multi-day trip. That day would be hopping from park to park to ride the major attractions. Other days would be more leisurely touring of the parks. I guess I'm not alone in this. Which means Disney will probably make it so you can't use it when hopping.
I'm guessing Disney figure with VQ that a guest gets to ride more attractions? Evidence has proven if you place a gift shop at the end of a ride, that people are more likely to be tempted to buy a souvenir. So the more rides a guest can do in a day increases the likelihood of purchasing more items. The likes of you and I probably aren't tempted as we've been many times, but don't underestimate other people in the park who don't have our mindset.But in your scenario, I’m curious how being limited to one VQ per park per day “translates to a better guest experience”? And there’s also zero evidence people will shop more, they could just be in more stand-by lines. I know I would be. I’ll have paid for my ticket, not going to buy more just because I’m in a virtual queue.
Yes, a park hopping version I could see as being vaguely appealing for a day out of a longer trip. Can't imagine them doing this without it being astronomically expensive so as not to be quite so appealing.IF you are able to use it with hopping, and IF you are able to add it to just one day of your ticket, I'd consider buying it for one day of our multi-day trip. That day would be hopping from park to park to ride the major attractions. Other days would be more leisurely touring of the parks. I guess I'm not alone in this. Which means Disney will probably make it so you can't use it when hopping.
As I’ve said, that isn’t likely. Many attractions already have queues optimized for a decently large FP line. Also, Disney is not going to leave money on the table, which they would be doing by not selling “skip the line” passes to as many people as possible. I’d expect the daily FP inventory for a ride to be pretty similar to what it was under free FP+.If it takes more guests out of the FP line seems like a plus. Unless more people start to cheat the system.
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