mergatroid
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Disney bringing in a paid fast pass system called a Lightening Pass (rumoured)
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FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was
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Jrb1979
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The jist of it is it will be part of Genie and the average price would be between $100 to $300 per person per day. It would also change to be more like Universal's system in that you no longer have to pick a time to come back.
CastAStone
5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
Unlimited or once per ride per day?
nickys
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At DL it’s (going to be) used at 2 rides. You can only be in one queue at a time but the drop times are different. With a bit of luck you could ride both RotR and the Spider-Man ride on the same day.
But in your scenario, I’m curious how being limited to one VQ per park per day “translates to a better guest experience”? And there’s also zero evidence people will shop more, they could just be in more stand-by lines. I know I would be. I’ll have paid for my ticket, not going to buy more just because I’m in a virtual queue.
Jrb1979
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Unlimited.
jt04
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I like what DL is doing. WDW is a lot more difficult to hop around so I think they will offer a modified version of that.
to your other point,
Per Guest spending has increased with lower crowds according to Disney. Makes perfect sense because nobody wants to wait in line 25 minutes for the newest mickey ears. Impulse purchases and normal purchases depend on a pleasant shopping experience. IMO.
Not everyone is a park ninja trying to get a certain number of rides per day. Many long term visitors enjoy a more leisurely pace. Virtual queues are a benefit to both strategies.
Gringrinngghost
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Yes Pricing is dynamic.
Gringrinngghost
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UOR does have a one per day AND unlimited option.
Gringrinngghost
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Disney, Bring back the Express Shuttle service cowards.
pdude81
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If the virtual queues are more or less maxpass where you can hold one at a time as opposed to one per day, then you can charge for the access per ticket and then also sell fastpasses over the top for money. That allows for more spontaneity and more revenue. Still annoying for us but I think that ship has sailed.
They can basically just charge per ticket for the service and let you do them on the phone or at the kiosks. I'd think with less guests and the same rides there would be more fastpasses to work with, so they could sell as a package more like what Martin was alluding to previously. If I had Golden Oak or Club 33 privileges, I'd be pretty ticked off hearing Joe Schmo got unlimited fastpasses for 150 bucks a day. So I am interested in this lightning pass rumor, but not so sure they'd do this if it wasn't prohibitively expensive per ticket.
They can basically just charge per ticket for the service and let you do them on the phone or at the kiosks. I'd think with less guests and the same rides there would be more fastpasses to work with, so they could sell as a package more like what Martin was alluding to previously. If I had Golden Oak or Club 33 privileges, I'd be pretty ticked off hearing Joe Schmo got unlimited fastpasses for 150 bucks a day. So I am interested in this lightning pass rumor, but not so sure they'd do this if it wasn't prohibitively expensive per ticket.
Disney Analyst
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Honesty a paid option is ideal. No return times. Unlimited is a bonus.
I would definitely pay for it for one day if it meant I could get things done quickly. And I don’t think it would have as negative an impact as FastPass did.
I would definitely pay for it for one day if it meant I could get things done quickly. And I don’t think it would have as negative an impact as FastPass did.
CastAStone
5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
If it takes more guests out of the FP line seems like a plus. Unless more people start to cheat the system.
LoonyMouse
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IF you are able to use it with hopping, and IF you are able to add it to just one day of your ticket, I'd consider buying it for one day of our multi-day trip. That day would be hopping from park to park to ride the major attractions. Other days would be more leisurely touring of the parks. I guess I'm not alone in this. Which means Disney will probably make it so you can't use it when hopping.
Disney Analyst
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I doubt you’d be able to use it in multiple parks in a single day, if they do it will certainly be a higher tiered version, the highest cost option.
mergatroid
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I'm guessing Disney figure with VQ that a guest gets to ride more attractions? Evidence has proven if you place a gift shop at the end of a ride, that people are more likely to be tempted to buy a souvenir. So the more rides a guest can do in a day increases the likelihood of purchasing more items. The likes of you and I probably aren't tempted as we've been many times, but don't underestimate other people in the park who don't have our mindset.
Queen of the WDW Scene
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The name doesn't line up with the logo/imaging at all so that aspect I do think is wrong.
I also don't think it will be quite as pricey.
And it and more virtual queues STILL won't have the effect Disney wants on spending more money on souvenirs.
Now a days people vlog so much where they are just showing their followers what's available but not buying much of it themselves so they will make a ton of money on youtube and Disney won't get as much out of the deal lol.
I also don't think it will be quite as pricey.
And it and more virtual queues STILL won't have the effect Disney wants on spending more money on souvenirs.
Now a days people vlog so much where they are just showing their followers what's available but not buying much of it themselves so they will make a ton of money on youtube and Disney won't get as much out of the deal lol.
Sir_Cliff
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Yes, a park hopping version I could see as being vaguely appealing for a day out of a longer trip. Can't imagine them doing this without it being astronomically expensive so as not to be quite so appealing.
I've never paid for the version at DLP as I've never needed to, and if this got the situation closer to a point where it wasn't necessary just a perk if you were averse to lines then I would be fine with it. I just don't trust Disney not to make this something it becomes hard to avoid paying extra for in some capacity to have an enjoyable experience. My impression is that this is their way of controlling capacity issues by signalling to those who are less valuable to them that Disney is largely indifferent to negative on the issue of whether they have a good time or come again.
As I’ve said, that isn’t likely. Many attractions already have queues optimized for a decently large FP line. Also, Disney is not going to leave money on the table, which they would be doing by not selling “skip the line” passes to as many people as possible. I’d expect the daily FP inventory for a ride to be pretty similar to what it was under free FP+.
The move to monetize FP comes purely from TWDC’s desire to increase revenue by monetizing as much as they can get away with, not from TWDC’s desire (or what’s left of it) to improve guest experience. It’s all about shareholder value these days, not guest value.
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