MaximumEd
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Badge of honor. I like to valet park my tractor and keep the miles off the Benz.i won’t have you insult 66% of the wdw clientele that way!!
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FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was
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for us having 3 FP+ booked in advance for each park day was all we needed and very helpful (along with in park rope drop to close) strategy to ensure we could see and do everything on our priority list. No idea what FP will look like in future, but with next trip in November it sure would be helpful for our planning to know if its in place and how-so we can consider using most effectively.
Jedijax719
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I highly doubt FP is going to be gone forever. For one, they are not about to let all lines to all rides be 1-2 hours long (closer to 2 hours). Second, they aren't going to charge crazy prices for it that bump the total cost of a vacation up $2000-$3000 for the average family.
I predict some kind of combination for on-site guests. Perhaps $50 for off-site guests per day and $25 for on-site guests. That's just one idea that came to mind. Then, with that price could come the same usage as before (3 FP's at a time and then 1 at at time after the original 3 are used). And, like before, perhaps they can keep the 30/60 day off-site/on-site reservation window.
I do not understand how people cannot want it to stay. For those who do not like using it, nobody is forcing them to do so.
I predict some kind of combination for on-site guests. Perhaps $50 for off-site guests per day and $25 for on-site guests. That's just one idea that came to mind. Then, with that price could come the same usage as before (3 FP's at a time and then 1 at at time after the original 3 are used). And, like before, perhaps they can keep the 30/60 day off-site/on-site reservation window.
I do not understand how people cannot want it to stay. For those who do not like using it, nobody is forcing them to do so.
Nickp1983
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The obvious solution which you all have missed.
To lessen the wait times we need to lessen the ride time. Now, what I would do is just turn up the speed. Make space mountain cars go twice as fast. Pirates, let's throw on some thrusters and really crank it through the carribean. Mission to Mars? Well, if the ride spins so fast they actually launch into the air. Win win.
To lessen the wait times we need to lessen the ride time. Now, what I would do is just turn up the speed. Make space mountain cars go twice as fast. Pirates, let's throw on some thrusters and really crank it through the carribean. Mission to Mars? Well, if the ride spins so fast they actually launch into the air. Win win.
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Sirwalterraleigh
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...well it sure beats the LAST thing(s) that did this
doctornick
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I don't think that's quite accurate. More like "Disney says it doesn't bring in enough revenues and are finding a way to monetize it more directly".
Sirwalterraleigh
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Chomama
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People do not want to stay because the system does not work. It causes people to spend more time planning and on their phones than is necessary and it makes the lines longer and move more slowly than they would otherwise. Some people enjoy knowing that they have three rides or sometimes more that will have a guaranteed short wait but what they don’t realize is that in general they are actually not accomplishing anymore than they would if we didn’t have fast pass plus
Sirwalterraleigh
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UNCgolf
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I'm pretty sure it's both. Martin has said it was bad for park operations -- I think there's a reason they never expanded it to other locations.
Regardless, of the reason it's still a failure in Disney's eyes, which is all I said. The reason why it's a failure doesn't really matter.
Incomudro
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Talk about combative...
Read the other thread:
Rumor - Version of MaxPass coming to WDW in May?
I was scrolling one of the DVC member newsfeeds this morning on Facebook and someone dropped on instagram how her and her family were able to do multiple FOP rides in one day due to something new that was coming out in May, but she couldn't go into detail just yet. Lots of comments were thinking...
Currently the reason FP+ will return is as a stop gap if there is an issue rolling out the new system. Although it’d have to be a recent problem given the new system was actively being tested pre Covid.
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MJM
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“What they dont realize is that in general they are actually not accomplishing anymore than they would if we didn’t have FP+”
Utter nonsense. I would always FP splash mtn, 7 dwarfs and space mtn. Got them 60 days out from our planned trip. Never had a problem doing that for an entire decade. If we hadn’t done that, I would have waited 1.5-2hrs per each of those rides because it’s was July (ummm that’s possibly a total of an extra 6hrs!) longer of my time at MK in a day. Can’t see how that “evens out” as the naysayers say. In the 3-6hrs time I saved by using FPs for those major attractions, we waited in 10+ smaller attraction lines and took a midday break to go swim at the resort. Came back around dinner time and rode some more utilizing FP one at a time for anything we hadn’t done but still wanted to do earlier in the day. Everything rode at MK in one day. Without FP that wouldn’t have been possible. Did I spend a few moments on my phone while riding the monorail or while waiting in a short line checking for those FPs later in the day? Yeah I did. But we got them and we had a fantastic vacation. And hopefully one day soon we will be doing it again
Sirwalterraleigh
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I never launch the attack on the sleepy naval base...
this was about the fifth time in 2 days the sad, non-intellectual “link?” Was thrown?
I don’t want to pull this card...but there are ALOT of wise, semi-connected opinions that have shared what they can about the demise of fastpass+
it would be a 1980 Olympics type upset if that was a multi-year smokescreen. It has never worked well and most have noticed.
Sirwalterraleigh
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FigmentFan82
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so Genie is MaxPass in FL?
MJM
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Everything on this forum is speculation. Including your opinions. Including mine. Now if you are an exec at Disney why didn’t you say so?
As I said before Disney will do what Disney will do. I am only hope they bring it back in some form or another because we loved it
Jedijax719
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Thanks. I had to scour through it. Then, I finally gave up and looked up Max Pass lol. From what I gather (correct me if I am wrong), it's essentially the same as FP+ but uses your phone and costs $20 per day per ticket (so a family of 3 like mine would pay $60 a day. For a 7-day trip, that's $420). I'd go for that.Read the other thread:
Rumor - Version of MaxPass coming to WDW in May?
I was scrolling one of the DVC member newsfeeds this morning on Facebook and someone dropped on instagram how her and her family were able to do multiple FOP rides in one day due to something new that was coming out in May, but she couldn't go into detail just yet. Lots of comments were thinking...forums.wdwmagic.com
Currently the reason FP+ will return is as a stop gap if there is an issue rolling out the new system. Although it’d have to be a recent problem given the new system was actively being tested pre Covid.
How did I do with my understanding?
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