FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

[pax_65]

Maybe I'm not following but I don't see any sort of conflict between:

A. Disney is indeed not like other parks; and,
B. Due to the operational realties of parks in general, waiting in line should be expected at any popular theme park. How you avoid lines and what you pay (or not) to avoid them is another question entirely.

Not saying that the price or experience of the 2 are necessarily comparable mind you. Clearly CP is much cheaper, but I was only making a comparison that the demand for that park in the summer months is comparable to the demand for a typical Disney crowd (in terms of lines, density of crowds, etc.).

I live near a large seasonal amusement park... and I almost never go. Disney is such a better experience for many reasons, but a big part of it is that I don't have to spend half my day standing in lines. Granted I make good decisions - I don't visit WDW in July or during Christmas week, I'm at the park at rope drop, I make full use of FP. But since I'm not going to spend the $ for a paid FP, my only option may be to spend hours standing in lines.

If so, I won't go. That's not a threat, just the way it will be. I simply won't enjoy the experience enough to pay Disney's ticket prices to experience it.

 

[mysto]

I'd like to promote my poll asking what you'd like from a new FP replacement:

Fastpass+ replacement poll.

My impression is that most posters are disappointed in a pay system, but so far most poll respondents want more paid goodies. We need more numbers!

 

[disneygeek90]

…bad news on that.

if they fill the queue…as built/designed…that’s what it will be.

That's what I figured/feared.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The Apple tax only applies to digital goods. Since this is a ticket to a physical thing, Apple doesn't take a cut.

Doesn’t mean they won’t try

I think you love what you are fed...

…and clinging to dear life now that it appears it’s over

 

[Jeff4272]

I think you love what you are fed...

Nope....I love 12 mins in FOP when its 115....I love 9 mins in Safari when its 70 and i love 14 mins for Everest when its 45..........Those were my fast passes last time i was in AK.........The longer lines due to FP that i had to wait on Dinosaur, Kali and Navi were PEANUTS and I saved almost 3 hours in line that day that I spent at the pool while you waited 2 hours for FOP...


You dont like because you couldnt get and i get that.......it stinks for people like you who cant get the good FP's.......but for people like me who can, its awesome

 

[flynnibus]

You dont like because you couldnt get

OH YOU GOT ME! that's it!

 

[Jeff4272]

OH YOU GOT ME! that's it!

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[Sirwalterraleigh]

Nope....I love 12 mins in FOP when its 115....I love 9 mins in Safari when its 70 and i love 14 mins for Everest when its 45..........Those were my fast passes last time i was in AK.........The longer lines due to FP that i had to wait on Dinosaur, Kali and Navi were PEANUTS and I saved almost 3 hours in line that day that I spent at the pool while you waited 2 hours for FOP...


You dont like because you couldnt get

Ok…what the hell does this mean?

we all skipped the lines…all of us.

it appears that’s over. Perhaps you get “a bone” and retain part…but the way you describe will almost definite be for a fee.

what stage of grief is denial?

 

[Jeff4272]

Ok…what the hell does this mean?

we all skipped the lines…all of us.

it appears that’s over. Perhaps you get “a bone” and retain part…but the way you describe will almost definite be for a fee.

what stage of grief is denial?

? That was not directed at you...It was in response to the other guy (flynnibus) condescending comment of assuming that i am being taken advantage of by Disney with his:

"I think you love what you are fed..." comment

 

[pdude81]

Forgive me as I’m still catching up in here so if someone responded to this already I apologize but enlighten me. What “perks”exactly still remain for those “coveted” blue cards….#askingforafriend. I’m going to go with 2 maybe 3 and wouldn’t call them perks nor would I say they’ve been active since pre-covid

AP discount is significant if you kept up your AP. Especially if you were able to use a gold pass. Merch and dining discounts are the same as AP so I don't count those. The other things are lesser or not happening currently due to covid pullbacks, but then again neither is Turtle Talk or the Indy stunt show.

 

[DomVF07]

AP discount is significant if you kept up your AP. Especially if you were able to use a gold pass. Merch and dining discounts are the same as AP so I don't count those. The other things are lesser or not happening currently due to covid pullbacks, but then again neither is Turtle Talk or the Indy stunt show.

Oh come on. I was merely throwing a bone. Compare those perks @ retail pricing to those without at resale. It’s not even close. But wrong thread for this and if you see value to each their own. Basic math suggests otherwise.

 

[SpykeYs]

What happens if no FP system is in place this year ? What happens in OCT-NOV-DEC once the park gets much busier ?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

? That was not directed at you...It was in response to the other guy (flynnibus) condescending comment of assuming that i am being taken advantage of by Disney with his:

"I think you love what you are fed..." comment

Oh I get that…

…problem is he’s not entirely wrong. Abrasive? Yes…
Wrong? Not as much

 

[Jeff4272]

What happens if no FP system is in place this year ? What happens in OCT-NOV-DEC once the park gets much busier ?

You will wait in VERY long lines.......Flight Of Passage earlier today was 2 hours and Tower of Terror was 1:50 wait times (and those are actual times, not just posted times)

October 1 waits will be 3 hours+ for the popular rides......

 

[ctrlaltdel]

What happens if no FP system is in place this year ? What happens in OCT-NOV-DEC once the park gets much busier ?

You'd think they would have to go live with something before the holiday season at least, preferably before (Oct. 1 or earlier). That means the plans must be put out there relatively soon.

 

[Jeff4272]

Oh I get that…

…problem is he’s not entirely wrong. Abrasive? Yes…
Wrong? Not as much

Wrong? 100%, no wait, 200% wrong

Maybe you didn't see my post? ........we both went to AK on the same day, i had 3 FP and he had no FP

I waited 12 mins in FOP when its 115....I waited 9 mins in Safari when its 70 and i waited 14 mins for Everest when its 45..........Those were my fast passes last time i was in AK.........The longer lines due to FP that i had to wait on Dinosaur, Kali and Navi were PEANUTS

I saved almost 3 hours in line that day that I spent at the pool while he waited 2 hours for FOP, 70 mins on Safari and 45 on Everest.........

Pool was a little cool that day though

 

[MisterPenguin]

Do FastPasses create longer waits or do they not have any affect at all?

Debate the pros and cons of FP+'s and their affect on lines here.

forums.wdwmagic.com

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Wrong? 100%, no wait, 200% wrong

Maybe you didn't see my post? ........we both went to AK on the same day, i had 3 FP and he had no FP

I waited 12 mins in FOP when its 115....I waited 9 mins in Safari when its 70 and i waited 14 mins for Everest when its 45..........Those were my fast passes last time i was in AK.........The longer lines due to FP that i had to wait on Dinosaur, Kali and Navi were PEANUTS

I saved almost 3 hours in line that day that I spent at the pool while he waited 2 hours for FOP, 70 mins on Safari and 45 on Everest.........

Pool was a little cool that day though

I just think that’s anecdotal. I don’t see much of anyway that the last system returns. So those tales…like off season and good value, high quality meals…are now “legend”

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Do FastPasses create longer waits or do they not have any affect at all?

Debate the pros and cons of FP+'s and their affect on lines here.

forums.wdwmagic.com

I choose option 5:

“he gone”

 

[Jeff4272]

I just think that’s anecdotal. I don’t see much of anyway that the last system returns. So those tales…like off season and good value, high quality meals…are now “legend”

Agree.........But theres not one person i know in the world that if they could have a FP for any 3 rides in any park who wouldn't take that and save time.........Nobody, even that other guy who was trying to make fun of me........