Wait and see how Black Widow does at the box office, and not just opening weekend. I suspect the market is reacting to F9s poor second week showing as a harbinger for movie studios.
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FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was
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pdude81
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Stock is still up at least 20% from it's near-high just before the pandemic. Also it's only down about 7 bucks currently from 5/13. I'm not sure that weighs too heavily on the Chairman and the CEO. As soon as they announce a plan to rip us off with paid FP here that trend will reverse. Also the August numbers should be much better.
DisneyMusician2
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Honestly the only monetary value taken away is the cost of the transportation to/from MCO, and I never really loved it as a value because at crowded times the wait was often extremely long to get where you're going. Maybe I just don't see these things as game changers either way.
pdude81
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We all see it as an issue. Some are blasting it, some are waiting to see how bad it is, and some are fantasizing about a world in which it has a positive effect. And then we fight
Not sure where you are seeing that, as they started the day at $172.82, and are now at $170.56. Hardly 10%.
Waters Back Side
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We got lucky and get the ME both ways even though we leave for home on 1/3/22. They are running ME until the 15th they said. Had they not been available (as they will not be for future trips) I checked Mears Connect...for 5 people to Disney is $150 dollars. To go 18 miles. Round trip is $300. Other methods of transportation will also be available I am sure, but Mears is what Disney is trying to throw onto us as the replacement.
flynnibus
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because the fact disney wasn’t the same as everywhere else was what made disney special.
disney was a leader and standout. Now its “same as everyone else”… is that not hard to understand?
hopemax
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Do we have any idea on what percentage day-to-day attendance is now vs 2019? We only publicly ever knew the percentage against some unknown maximum, but in the before times the parks were only rarely at maximum. So the parks were always more closer to normal than the stated percentage implied. If the actual percentage is closer to 80% of a pre-COVID day than 50%, lines have less potential remaining growth than people fear.
Queen of the WDW Scene
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The point is like any other theme park out there Disney could have made you pay an additional fee and inflate their prices all along from the beginning of Fastpass.
Ayla
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I stayed at a Fairfield a couple weeks ago that was nicer than my deluxe stays. lol
DisneyMusician2
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Where? Just curious.
He is referring to since the last earnings call. The price has been pretty flat for awhile now. It went down after the last earnings call (the previous posters post about it being a correction is spot on), and has been pretty flat since then (slight up and downs from day to day). Nothing is concerning to execs right now at all on this. He is just making numbers say something that really isn't there (right now). Things can always change, but when you really dive into the numbers he is far off on his claim.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Port orleans isn’t gonna come in much cheaper than caribbean…they got everyone on the hook during a “high”…
and you’re not gonna eat? Better bring your old magic bands for snacks in those lines
flynnibus
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Vacationing at the polynesian in 1984 was a wow experience. From the atmosphere, to the recreation, to the amenities… to how you traveled to the parks, these amazing restaurants, to this crazy video monitor to make reservations.
it was all like nothing you experienced anywhere else you vacationed. We had the magic kingdom club so we had the TRUE DDP experience… and even all recreation was included. We were treated like Kings.
contrast that with now… wdw has made everyone into park commandos and is looking to monetize the monsters they built
it was all like nothing you experienced anywhere else you vacationed. We had the magic kingdom club so we had the TRUE DDP experience… and even all recreation was included. We were treated like Kings.
contrast that with now… wdw has made everyone into park commandos and is looking to monetize the monsters they built
Sirwalterraleigh
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the price went up $50 a share in a year when 85% of their businesses were shut down…
what was the point again?
I'm just waiting for the split - hopefully 3 to 1, though I'd take 2 for 1.
LaughingGravy
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Nothing against you Luv, but the fact that a part of the day (for one day) blip in stock price one way or the other is driving how success is measured in a company is just sad. It's reality these days. I know that.
I guess I'm old fashioned in the idea that a company should do well by creating and maintaining something great, also creating value and employing people to create that value, ultimately ending up in increased business and a stellar reputation, while also making a profit as well as another result of a decent quality of life for those who work hard to make it all happen.
F9s second weekend was in line with what many expected (as far as they could predict with covid recovery). Pent up demand for a movie raised opening weekend a little higher (than otherwise for a covid opening...but not for what it could have done). It was only a little worse percentage wise than the other F&F movies percentage drops most likely due to this "need to see something now" mentality that is out there for some consumers, but not really showing the full picture YET.
I personally see Black Widow is going to be the next great step after F9. While no one can completely predict what will happen, I think F9 and (eventually Black Widow) will be exactly what the box office needed and the top of what it could have hoped for.
Sirwalterraleigh
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The stock price will not save your “park experience”
Disney park customers - particularly in Orlando - have made themselves a multi billion dollar “captive audience” each year and that has been relayed to investors.
and as I say often…I HATE being right about this.
Waters Back Side
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Port orleans isn’t gonna come in much cheaper than caribbean…they got everyone on the hook during a “high”…
and you’re not gonna eat? Better bring your old magic bands for snacks in those lines
Oh Ill eat. But I will eat quick and snack service and pay as I go. And you are probably right. Considering they are both Moderate level resorts.
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