FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

[havoc315]

Because it's one thing to feel like they reached into your pocket once, it's another thing for it to feel like they just want to keep it there constantly.

So, what would be better:
If a restaurant charged $per person, but it was unlimited all-you-can eat… You can have the lobster, steak, caviar.

Or, if a restaurant charged only for what you order— so the person who wants the lobster pays $50, the person who wants the steak pays $40, the person who wants the salad pays $20…. And the person who wants all 3 pays $110.

Breaking up pricing actually works to the benefit of the customer, more often than not.

 

[monothingie]

And that is what worries me. They can’t manipulate too much and give absolutely no value taking the non paid route. Essentially get to walk around and go spend money on the shops and restaurants.

Is the metric for transitioning from traditional standby to standby pass something concrete or is it subjective and varies by day of week, staffing, attendance, percent relative humidity, number of bags of popcorn sold on main st?

 

[flynnibus]

Yep, thats why it feels so hopeless.

No no... don't you remember all the posters telling you their choices have no impact on your world? Or why they don't care about how you do things, etc.

Yet they got upset when the 'selfish' word was thrown around.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think he's asking if we should expect anything in place in WDW by mid august.

Yeah but he’s not the CEO…cut the guy some slack. He’s not anyone’s therapist either

I worked under one of the current VPs of WDW directly years ago…you want me to give him a call? He won’t know either

I have no timeframe.

But I’m just a “fan” in the UK.

You don’t have to splain yourself

And if they don't, there's another crop ready to go.

I’m starting to wonder if my longstanding belief in this is correct?

 

[M:SpilotISTC12]

Is the metric for transitioning from traditional standby to standby pass something concrete or is it subjective and varies by day of week, staffing, attendance, percent relative humidity, number of bags of popcorn sold on main st?

Sorry meant to say CAN. Damn autocorrect. No but I think they can “lock” you out through rigging the system because you didn’t pay.

 

[IanDLBZF]

Is the metric for transitioning from traditional standby to standby pass something concrete or is it subjective and varies by day of week, staffing, attendance, percent relative humidity, number of bags of popcorn sold on main st?

It's gonna depend on if any tiers of park passes have fully sold out for that park.

 

[spaldingclan]

I'm impressed. I'm a coaster enthusiast and even though Everest is not the most intense coaster out there, a few years ago I had to bow out after 5 times in a row. Stupid aging vestibular system...

rode Mission Space Orange last week and didnt feel right the rest of the day

 

[MisterPenguin]

Someone please tag me if there's actually news... I gotta take a break from the back and forth again.

Just keep checking here for news...

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[DisneyNorthFan]

I tend to be pretty positive on most things, but I REALLY dislike the idea of on-demand paid FP per ride I wouldn't buy them, but it would leave a bad feeling every time I look at the app and saw the options - especially if it meant that I was closed-out of some rides because I wasn't willing to pay extra. I just can't fathom spending $40+ for my family of 4 to ride a single ride ... when I've already paid a hefty park admittance. I love Space Mountain, for example, but it's not worth $10/person for a single ride, even if getting in the park was free! There are flaws will all FP systems. I personally like the current version, not just because it's free, but because it rewards planners. However, I can see why this is not ideal for everyone, and why Disney might want to "fix" the system for first time visitors or those who don't want do do all the planning. Net, I don't want change, but I understand why some things might need to change. If what comes out of this is a system that doesn't add expense to the trip, or at least doesn't degrade the experience for those not willing to pay an upcharge, I will still lament the loss of FastPass+, but I'd return to Disney on a normal schedule. If my experience drops because I'm unwilling to pay an upcharge, I would cut back my trips.

 

[GoofGoof]

No official announcement yet, and this has been along time coming so could happen at anytime We don't yet know.

I have no timeframe.

But I’m just a “fan” in the UK.

Thanks

If the technology is ready I assume they will want to roll it out for the 50th but I am a little worried they decide to test if first prior to 10/1. I haven‘t been to WDW without FP since the 90s so looking forward to a throwback visit but I can roll with the punches.

 

[MrPromey]

I think people are over reacting about scarcity of standby. "or you won't ride anything..." or other non-sense. If the park is that full, no one is going to enjoy anything period. I think the problem is going to be more pushing demand to less desirable attractions because if someone is blocked out from just waiting for the big e-ticket they want (line is cutoff and standby is not available to you due to already in queue) they will want to do 'something'.

So like the FP+ effect... it will push load to lesser attractions.

Or Disney makes the line-skip so cheap that the majority use it. And then you end up in worst case... everyone paying just to be in what was a regular line.

So at worst, things are worse than they are today and at best they aren't?

Maybe there is an upside somewhere in there for you but I don't see any for me, personally.

To each their own, I guess.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

I'll play your game...

Which is more enjoyable?
- Standing in a line in an enclosed space with hundreds of people for 2hrs
or
- Being free to move about and do almost nothing if you cared to?

The bar is pretty low when you are talking about 'what is better than standing in a line'

Maybe not 2 hours of fun, but well-made queues are part of the appeal of many attractions: designing your car on Test Track, playing the (virtual) musical instruments on HM, and the Hogwart's Castle come to mind.
Meanwhile, WDW has removed many of the park benches they used to have, and the street performers, and wandering characters. We can take selfies in front of a purple wall though, so there's that, and I like the gardens in Epcot, but I'm not sure the parks have been designed with enough space for many more people to not be in queues - relative to how they spend their time now.

WDW will need to add more walk through attractions, or random character queues, or reasons to go into the stores....Maybe they'll bring back some of the benches?

 

[Parker in NYC]

I’m starting to wonder if my longstanding belief in this is correct?

That unlike symphony concert halls where the blue-hairs are dying out, the .... born every minute at Disney are sprouting up like $39.99 rose gold mouse ears?

 

[M:SpilotISTC12]

As a DVC owner, Hilton Head and Vero are looking real appealing right now. I love the parks but I’m not going to do this pay to play crap after dropping serious coin just to walk in. They can rig the system to make sure you can’t do anything. They have set the trend of have’s and have nots. Don’t think they won’t do the same to the fast pass and stand by queues.

 

[mightynine]

So, what would be better:
If a restaurant charged $per person, but it was unlimited all-you-can eat… You can have the lobster, steak, caviar.

Or, if a restaurant charged only for what you order— so the person who wants the lobster pays $50, the person who wants the steak pays $40, the person who wants the salad pays $20…. And the person who wants all 3 pays $110.

Breaking up pricing actually works to the benefit of the customer, more often than not.

Except a restaurant doesn't charge an admission fee for me to sit at the table and make that decision.

 

[monothingie]

I'll play your game...

Which is more enjoyable?
- Standing in a line in an enclosed space with hundreds of people for 2hrs
or
- Being free to move about and do almost nothing if you cared to?

The bar is pretty low when you are talking about 'what is better than standing in a line'

If you get a Standby Pass, wouldn't you have to still wait in line after your allotted time is called? So conceivably you could still be waiting 2 hours in line, just 6 hours later.

 

[M:SpilotISTC12]

If you get a Standby Pass, wouldn't you have to still wait in line after your allotted time is called? So conceivably you could still be waiting 2 hours in line, just 6 hours later.

That’s the way I took it. No more free will in the parks if that is the case.

 

[MrPromey]

So, what would be better:
If a restaurant charged $per person, but it was unlimited all-you-can eat… You can have the lobster, steak, caviar.

Or, if a restaurant charged only for what you order— so the person who wants the lobster pays $50, the person who wants the steak pays $40, the person who wants the salad pays $20…. And the person who wants all 3 pays $110.

Breaking up pricing actually works to the benefit of the customer, more often than not.

Cool. So under this new plan, the $120 to enter the parks is going away?

Sign me up!

 

[IanDLBZF]

And the folks over at Paris aren't happy either.

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[Po'Rich]

So I will bring this up again they can’t just continue to devalue everything and expect to continue to sell DVC.

I would love to see the sales figures for new contracts.

Yes I know my resale that I bought during covid is worth a lot more right now but that doesn’t mean new points are selling.

I know this isn’t a thread about DVC but you would have to assume every decision they make they are least thinking about how it will affect point sales.

Actually, this can be seen as the ultimate DVC benefit: Charge for FPs per ride and then offer a DVC discount on the price for blue cards. They'll still get customers to pay more, but the DVC owners will feel like they are getting a special perk while also paying more!