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FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was
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I put nothing past anyone!
Waters Back Side
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Yeah, um on arrival day, I plan to head right to the parks. Not spend time booking fast passes.
Then it goes from planning ahead of time and not worrying on arrival to planning when you arrive. Not appealing.
Then it goes from planning ahead of time and not worrying on arrival to planning when you arrive. Not appealing.
Chip Chipperson
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Agreed. Planning in advance makes it easier to know what we're doing each day as opposed to planning our trip on our arrival day (which gets even messier when factoring in things like some guests being on a plane headed to MCO without WiFi when the booking window opens while others are still at home with a later flight time).
Chi84
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Maybe check-in doesn't mean arrival day? Can't you "check in" online months in advance? If that's the system, there has to be much more explaining to go along with it.
G00fyDad
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I hope they don't go this route but if they do then I can book mine from my phone in the air or even as early as midnight. I can check in online starting at midnight the day of our arrival which theoretically should open me up the ability to book my fast passes as soon as the check-in is done.
pdude81
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Well either it's check in or it isn't, right? So if not check in, then likely we're talking about i like maxpass was where you can choose after tapping into a park. This is where the early entry becomes much more valuable. But you arrive on check in day and you are behind everybody else who already went to the park. Not the end of the world for that day.
Now think about how hard it is to get a fastpass for 7DMT, TT, FOP at 30 days or even at 60 days on the nose. Day of now could make this the reality, unless they plan on having tons of free fp and charging a decent amount for those over the top. That doesn't incentivize anyone to stay for more than a day or two in an on site hotel. Again, if you're at the front of the pack for early entry then you'll do well here. It works great in california because there are fewer people there getting the early entry.
So no, I'm not looking to spend the first day of my trip picking fastpasses. I'd rather pick one free one a day with the dumb park pass they make us schedule, and then everything else on the fly day of. But there's got to be some benefit to staying for multiple days and for staying on property. If that means that I have the choice of picking or purchasing my extras a few days out before day guest x does, then I'll do whatever it takes.
Now think about how hard it is to get a fastpass for 7DMT, TT, FOP at 30 days or even at 60 days on the nose. Day of now could make this the reality, unless they plan on having tons of free fp and charging a decent amount for those over the top. That doesn't incentivize anyone to stay for more than a day or two in an on site hotel. Again, if you're at the front of the pack for early entry then you'll do well here. It works great in california because there are fewer people there getting the early entry.
So no, I'm not looking to spend the first day of my trip picking fastpasses. I'd rather pick one free one a day with the dumb park pass they make us schedule, and then everything else on the fly day of. But there's got to be some benefit to staying for multiple days and for staying on property. If that means that I have the choice of picking or purchasing my extras a few days out before day guest x does, then I'll do whatever it takes.
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Since no one really liked my prevoous ideas, here is my next one since no one asked. With some of the latest info.
It seems park pass reservations are here to stay, so perhaps this is now part of the new system. We know they already split park pass into 3 buckets, so maybe that will be part of fast pass system as well and they will have buckets of fp availability for each group. This allows for off site and ap a chance at the higher tier rides. More fp availability could be allocated to on site guests.
Next, since they know what park you are starting at due to reservations, starting at 7 am every morning you can make your fp selections for that day. Perhaps it's only 2 or 3, and then you have to pay for more. They could also do like rotr where they drop a second batch at 1pm. Only problem with this idea is park hoppers, so perhaps they drop several times a day.
Finally, with the latest about getting them at check in, perhaps this is a concierge level fp. You buy bundles, but they are guaranteed and you can do it for length of stay. This gives on site a major advantage to be able to avoid day of fp.
It seems park pass reservations are here to stay, so perhaps this is now part of the new system. We know they already split park pass into 3 buckets, so maybe that will be part of fast pass system as well and they will have buckets of fp availability for each group. This allows for off site and ap a chance at the higher tier rides. More fp availability could be allocated to on site guests.
Next, since they know what park you are starting at due to reservations, starting at 7 am every morning you can make your fp selections for that day. Perhaps it's only 2 or 3, and then you have to pay for more. They could also do like rotr where they drop a second batch at 1pm. Only problem with this idea is park hoppers, so perhaps they drop several times a day.
Finally, with the latest about getting them at check in, perhaps this is a concierge level fp. You buy bundles, but they are guaranteed and you can do it for length of stay. This gives on site a major advantage to be able to avoid day of fp.
Waters Back Side
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Too many unanswered questions. What would this also do for the 3 out of 4 parks with tiered fast passes? Still 1 a day, just this time its day of? Would a resort guest be higher prioritized? What about dinner reservations and if they conflict? How much would they cost? These are things that can be changed in advance easier then while on vacation and enjoying the parks. I would actually pay to book them in advance before booking on arrival, if it came down to those being the only choices.
Hopefully there will be some clarity soon.
Hopefully there will be some clarity soon.
Jrb1979
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I'm guessing resort guests would get some free FP. Then you pay for ones after that.
EeyoreFan#24
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One of the things that was mildly annoying by the old FP system was having to select park and party each time. I get there’s a reason for that being an option, but couldn’t they just made an option for “select another FP for this party” and remember the park required. Instead of having to go though the menu again and then if you get you days backward in your mind and get the error message about selecting another park.
I have to agree I dont want to be trying to book fast passes on my arrival day for our stay. Advance planning helps immensely in deciding what park to hit and where the family would like to eat. We dont park hop much but always get the park hopper tickets. It makes sense to us because if we didnt get to hit an attraction if the park we are in is on a 8-10 day (crowdwise) we could jump over to Epcot or MK to catch the ride we didnt get if we hit the big ones we wanted where we were at that day.
mikejs78
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Still looking at the pay-for-FP angle?
LittleBuford
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It was a handy feature if you were hopping to another park and reserving a FP in preparation, but I agree that it would have been good to have a way of disabling it unless needed.
GhostHost1000
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The problem there is having to spend time planning and booking fp while you’re on vacation which is stupid if they go to that.
Then again this is disney and they haven’t exactly made some of the best decisions
That article reads like their spin on this thread. M&G were part of the FP+ program at select locations, and wasn't fireworks viewing included as a FP+ option once upon a time?
SoFloMagic
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So it'll be a paid offering with less planning in advance. I feel like we knew that a year ago. Sounds like this isn't moving too quickly...
G00fyDad
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Says who? Disney has finally released something?
SoFloMagic
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No. Just catching up on my Martin hints
Not sure length of stay will be relevant. Assuming this pass system is much more limited than the FP+ system -- with the limit occurring by natural supply and demand pricing -- FPs likely won't "sell out."
In other words, it's not that there are only 2,000 FPs for Mine Train on Tuesday, and they all sell out....
More like at $xxx, the demand for Mine Train FPs is only ~2,000. Thus, you should typically be able to buy it the same day -- Just as Universal doesn't "run out" of Express Passes, they just raise the price in relation to demand.
I think you're over-thinking it. It wouldn't be check in and book FPs as with the old FP+ system. It would be more like ordering from a restaurant menu. "Oh... I'm planning on going to Magic Kingdom tomorrow... I'll take the "Mountain FP package please..... hmmm... maybe I should also order the Toy Story FP package for DHS for tomorrow... I'll think about it, and place my order tonight."
Doubtful those FPs would even be tied to a specific time, just to a specific day.
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