Pretty much. All the standby lines are ridiculously long now. If you don't use the Fast Pass, you might as well throw away a quarter of your day on some rides.
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FastPass is the dumbest thing Disney ever did.
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Pretty much. All the standby lines are ridiculously long now. If you don't use the Fast Pass, you might as well throw away a quarter of your day on some rides.
David S.
Member
Yes, I agree that it's pretty funny that all of us who participated and typed all this stuff out did so in response to one person apparently having a bad day!
and strollers and motorized wheel chairs.
Tigger1988
Well-Known Member
Standby lines were always long.
I have to wonder what magical world some of you were living in just a decade ago when lines were short and manageable.
Not as long as they are now. Almost every line is longer now, but the standby lines are ridiculous.
Well, thank heavens for the FastPass system to prevent such a wasting of your time....
Tigger1988
Well-Known Member
Not true, but I'll let you keep thinking that. :wave:
How would you know? You were 10 years old when they implemented the system.
Tigger1988
Well-Known Member
And that proves...what exactly?
My memory didn't magically begin at age 11 and I have plenty of other people who were on trips with me that I can confirm my observations with.
But yeah, keep using that FastPass system that doesn't save you any time.
Yeah, but I wasn't......
Like I said, all the arguments in favor of Fast Pass are that it's magic. Nobody can explain how it adds capacity to the parks; they just know it does.
Tigger1988
Well-Known Member
He'll just say you're lying.
And your experience is that the standby for Space Mountain in 2010 is shorter than it's line in 1995 (crowd size being constant)?
So surely you can explain how Fast Pass shortens lines? Adds capacity? Allows for people to attend more attractions in a day?
LoriMistress
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I can see why you may hate FP because you work at a Disney Park. I would probably hate it too, if I had to deal with the public complain all day. But as for a guest, I love FP! If you know the system, which I do, I enjoy it a lot. I hate crowds (and people--ironic, I know). I know the system, and I use it to my advantage. For an example, on our last trip in '07 when we were at AK, we were there at opening. I grabbed FP's for myself and DH. We were able to ride EE five times, and that was using FP's! We left the park around 1-2pm. The CMs were impressed that we knew the system, and were able to ride it so many times.
Probably about as well as you could explain the opposite to be true......
Let's hear it.
David S.
Member
Like I said, all the arguments in favor of Fast Pass are that it's magic. Nobody can explain how it adds capacity to the parks; they just know it does.
Actually, I did acknowledge in a previous post that you were probably right that it does not add capacity to the parks. However, the "magic" of it adding time to people's day can be explained by the fact that not everyone uses it, or uses it to it's potential. Those who use it and use it frequently will gain the most, not only relative to guests who do not use it, but also relative to what they could have done had FP not existed.
Why? This is nothing more than a neverending circuitous argument. You can't fully prove that FPs have been a detriment any more than I can fully prove they have been beneficial.....
Monty
Brilliant...and Canadian
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I've read the whole thread and as far as I can tell, you are the only person that has mentioned anything about capacity and certainly no-one has said or even implied that FP adds capacity. Everybody knows that each ride has a specific speed at which it loads passengers [or targets loading them]. All that FP does is changes the location where one waits to be loaded onto a given ride.
You have rightly postulated that non-FP rides may have longer waits than they had before FPs existed, but what you fail to realise is that if I am making that ride's wait longer during the time I would otherwise be waiting in line in front of you it's because I'm getting to ride an extra ride instead of waiting in front of you. If I'm in front of you and there's no FP, the line moves more consistently, but you still wait as long or nearly as long. If I'm causing other people to wait slightly longer it's because I'm experiencing more with my time instead of just waiting in front of you.
That's been my point from the beginning. The line waits (overall, during the course of a day, assuming all other variables constant) will be the same with or without the Fast Pass system; as will the amount of rides that can be visited in a day.