Fast Pass Rework

ImaYoyo

Active Member
not having fastpass doesn't make the line 3 hours - it actually makes the standby line move MUCH MUCH MUCH faster!!!

My biggest wish for Fastpass is that they remove it from Peter Pan, Winnie the Pooh, VOTLM, HISTA, ITTBAB (all live and 3D shows) and Epic.

Notice how quick Snow White's line goes? There is no reason that you should ever have to wait 45 minutes to ride an omnimover attraction like Peter Pan... the ride never stops - but FastPass slows it down a LOT!
I see what you're trying to say, but the OHRC on Snow White is MUCH higher than on Peter Pan, which has more to do with the long lines than fastpass, though it certainly doesn't help the situation. Peter Pan is also a much more popular attraction.

EDIT: My bad, guess I should read the entire thread first...
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Snow White has six seats not four. :lol: Allearsnet.com has attraction seating photos I found. It's a really great guide to attraction seating for rides and shows. This is another cool web site I'm a fan of. This is a pic I found on Allearsnet.com
mk_snow6.jpg
shows how often I ride lol
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
I actually disagree about some of the "smaller" attractions having fast pass. I think that more attractions should have it available, not because I want to use it - but because when you get a fastpass for a ride like Peter Pan, you can't get a fastpass for Splash Mountain. For those of us that know how to use fastpass correctly, I fully support more attractions carrying this option.
 

gotribe07

New Member
The Orlando area is the lightning strike capital of the United States (2nd in the world). Expedition: Everest is the tallest mountain in Florida and made primarily out of metal. Not horrendously surprising.

Sometimes, when only one theater in Soarin' is operational the Standby line will be closed, but Fastpass returns will be honored.

I agree with the Everest comment.

When I was in WDW in July EE was struck by lightning and the ride was shut down because the system got all messed up by the lightning strike.

The amazing part: the strike happened around 6:00 pm and Everest was up and running again by 10pm (it was an EMH's night) and the CM's agreed to stay past park close to get the ride operational again.
 

egionet

New Member
I see what you're trying to say, but the OHRC on Snow White is MUCH higher than on Peter Pan, which has more to do with the long lines than fastpass, though it certainly doesn't help the situation. Peter Pan is also a much more popular attraction.

EDIT: My bad, guess I should read the entire thread first...

Actually the OHRC for SWSA is 1021, while Pan is 982.

And I agree that if FP was taken away the stand-by lines would be so much shorter. I would rather wait 50 minutes for Pan for stand-by, seeing a full queue, and be moving, than wait 120 minutes, see 50 people in line, and then watching a million FP people walk by while I don't move anywhere.

Not to mention being CM on these attractions is far from fun. Just imagine being constantly yelled by the FP guests who had to wait 30 minutes to get a ride that's less than 3, when they think they are supposed to walk right onto the ride. It's miserable, and all you can do is smile and apologize.

Also on a side note, SWSA is supposed to be able to fit 9 people per mine car (I've seen it done; it's not pretty).
 

basas

Well-Known Member
DL's Peter Pan ends up with 50 minute lines without FP while Splash with FP at WDW last week on hot days was still under 60 minutes. If I show up to a ride and FP are available I get them, otherwise I get in line. So FP means I ride later while no FP means I make the line longer immediately.

Peter Pan at DL stops and its capacity is lower than WDW's.

If I had my way, FP would be removed from all attractions.

If it has to stay, at least take it off the 3D shows, low capacity dark rides and rides like Buzz which had fast-moving lines pre-FP.

<<And I agree that if FP was taken away the stand-by lines would be so much shorter. I would rather wait 50 minutes for Pan for stand-by, seeing a full queue, and be moving, than wait 120 minutes, see 50 people in line, and then watching a million FP people walk by while I don't move anywhere. >>

I 100% agree.
 

JeffH

Active Member
Simply not true...

if FP was taken away the stand-by lines would be so much shorter.
This is simply not true.
Stand-by lines actually got shorter after FP was introduced.
This was because before FP you had no choice, either wait in a 60-90 minute line, or never ride it at all (like PeterPan had 90% of the day, unless you rode it before 10am).
Now with the option to ride these rides without waiting, by simply getting a FP, people no longer (have to) tolerate such long lines/waits. So once a line gets just so long, people now skip it (or get a FP for it and do something else). People no longer tolerate the long waits (for everything) that used to exist before FP.
So, thanks to FP, anyone can see many of the attractions they want without the waits, and those who just have to desperately see them don't have to wait as long in line as everyone use to.
FP works well for all the attractions it serves, all you have to do is manage your FP use intelligently.
Anyone who doesn't want FP doesn't understand FP or how to use them (or works for the competition).
If you are stupid enough to wait in a long line when you could have gotten a FP, (being stupid) doesn't make you more deserving to ride than the FPers who (smartly) walk right by you, because...
FP represents the holding of a virtual 'place in line'. Everyone who walks past you with a FP was there BEFORE YOU, and instead of waiting in line (like stupid 'ol you), they claimed their place in line and then went and did something else productive with their time (enjoying another attraction, a parade, a meet and greet, a meal, a shopping spree). And it's not like you don't know about 'my' spot in front of you...the wait time in the standby line clearly represents and includes all the virtual spots being held by FP holders. Simply put, FP holders were there first.
If I had my way, FP would be removed from all attractions.
It takes a real 'special' person to defend and fight for 'standing doing nothing' at Disney World where you paid over $70 a day to visit (not including meals), and a real 'thoughtful' person to then insist that everyone also 'stand doing nothing', just because they 'like' doing it or are too lazy or stupid to take advantage of this ingenious theme park device.
Imagine how insane it would be if they got rid of Priority Seating at the restaurants??? You'd spend half your day at Epcot waiting in a long line to get into Alfredos or all your morning waiting for a spot in Cinderella's castle.

Even when I was young, I was amazed by how stupid lines were (and those who insisted on waiting in them), and what a insipid waste of time and money they were for both the guest and the park owner. FS saves you a place in line and allows you enjoy more (good for you) and spend more (good for Disney). Fast Pass also eases some of the stress and frustration you face while on vacation in addition to increasing the enjoyment you can experience. You now can enjoy a unrushed meal with your family knowing you have Fast Passes for the 'Big attraction' when you are finished, instead of yelling at little Jimmy to hurry up and eat his fries. You can now stop and enjoy one of the many street shows at WDW, instead of rushing...to get in another line. You can now take the time to enjoy a lesser attraction that you have never had the time to see. You also get to enjoy the attraction without enduring the boredom, frustration and tiring wait in line, putting you in a much better mood to fully enjoy the attraction. Most of all, it allows you to really enjoy yourself and your family, which is what Disney is about.

Fast Pass was the most intellegent and significant Disney innovation (or attraction) ever introduced at WDW. With enough time you can enjoy the dozen or so favorite attractions at WDW each with a no-wait Fast Pass, or you can wait 45-75 minutes for each for a grand total of 720 wasted minutes (30 hours) standing.:brick:

I still cringe when I see people waiting in line (for a show) when they simply should be allowed to go in and sit down. They started doing this for the 1st Flower Power concert show of the day. Why??? Now instead of the early people being able to calmly pick out a seat when they get there and relax, they now have to wait standing in a hot line and race to get their seat when the mob is released at 'the time'. So these concerts are no longer a reason to go to Epcot for the Flower and Garden Festival.

Fast Pass hints...
You should always be 'holding' a fastpass...
You should always get a new fastpass, before you use the fastpass you're holding...or as early as your fastpass allows.
While holding a fastpass enjoy one of the many attractions that doesn't normally have (much of) a line, or enjoy an unrushed meal with your family, or relax with an ice cream.
Fast Pass or not, you still should get to a park early (10am or earlier).
Beware of the most popular rides (Test Track and Soarin'), if you can't get on it early or get an early FP, your FP might end up hours away, locking you out of other FPs during that time...plan with this in mind.
One little note: if your fastpass is for 1pm and it says you can get another fastpass at 1:05pm, it really is 1pm...they only say that so you won't get there early (12:58pm FPtime, but 1pm according to your watch) and complain when you can't get a fastpass. (try to set your watch to 'Disney time' to avoid this).
There are some FP attractions whose lines vary wildly (Star Tours, Safari, Malstrom, Mission:Space), so check the standby time first and if it is 10 minutes or less, then there is probably no line inside and get a fastpass for something else.
Never trust the standby time for Soarin' in the morning, I've seen it report a 45-60 minute wait when there was NO line inside at all (I've seen the FP line longer than the SBline!!!). Luckily, with Soarin', you can walk in and see the size of the line and walk back out if it is too long (the entry is right around the corner of the 'room' with the giant screens).
And a good thing to know is that if you miss your fastpass window, they will let you in after your fastpass time, so don't kill yourself (and your family) rushing to get there. But don't plan on this, because if everyone did this on purpose, the system could collapse, and we wouldn't want that.
 

Mr Disney

Active Member
In the Parks
Yes
True, fastpass at Everest was down Monday, not because of lightning though. The lightning did mess up our fastpass return clock and standby wait time indicator. I believe they said WW' and 1645 permanently until they came back up today. EE has gotten new fastpasses as of today. They're the same as KS. The only problem with the new system is that DVC doesn't get immediate access yet.
 

ImaYoyo

Active Member
The new fastpasses were available at Everest this weekend, and the machines at TTBAB were closed, possibly to add these as well.
 

rgf207

New Member
True, fastpass at Everest was down Monday, not because of lightning though. The lightning did mess up our fastpass return clock and standby wait time indicator. I believe they said WW' and 1645 permanently until they came back up today. EE has gotten new fastpasses as of today. They're the same as KS. The only problem with the new system is that DVC doesn't get immediate access yet.
Hi
What makes the new fast passes different from the old ones?
 

Rob562

Well-Known Member
Hi
What makes the new fast passes different from the old ones?

The information is printed out in a slightly different format. The date at the bottom is much more prominent. There is also a barcode printed along the side of the FP, but it's unclear right now what Disney will use it for. They may update the system so that you can't get a new FP until you actually *use* your first one and it's scanned. Or, they may just use the barcode to collect data on the usage of the FPs. (what percentage of FPs actually get used, in what part of the FP window are the tickets typically used, etc etc) and then use that info down the line for future improvements, changes to the FP system, etc

-Rob
 

sabian

New Member
not having fastpass doesn't make the line 3 hours - it actually makes the standby line move MUCH MUCH MUCH faster!!!

My biggest wish for Fastpass is that they remove it from Peter Pan, Winnie the Pooh, VOTLM, HISTA, ITTBAB (all live and 3D shows) and Epic.

Notice how quick Snow White's line goes? There is no reason that you should ever have to wait 45 minutes to ride an omnimover attraction like Peter Pan... the ride never stops - but FastPass slows it down a LOT!

I distinctly remember over 60 minute waits for Peter Pan before FastPass came along. It was always the longest line in Fantasyland.:wave:
 

wdwmomof3

Well-Known Member
I remember going to Disney and not knowing what a fast pass was. We waited like fools in line while people walked right on the ride with a fast pass. :hammer:Once we found out about them, we used them like crazy and it helped so much. Now, I would be lost without them. I look at people standing in line and think they have got to be first timers to Disney. Why else would you wait over an hour to ride Peter Pan?:eek:
 

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