Fast pass plus

[Jeffxz]

So... I'm still trying to figure out if any old average Joe will be able to do FP+, or if it's a "resort only" perk. What you given us here SORT of feels like it could still go either way.

Does anyone have any hard evidence of which it will be?

Nothing I have explicitly states that Fastpass+ will be a paid addon - But it doesn't state that it won't be either.

The text that I have specifically calls out "Magic Your Way" tickets when refering to the the Fastpass+ booking window so it seems to me like all admission media will have at least some benefits.

And here is an exact quote from the text I'm looking at:
"To make a FastPass+ selection for you or your Friends, you must retrieve a Resort package reservation including
valid park admission through your account or associate valid park admission to your account."

 

[MrNonacho]

Lucky for you, you can spend lots of time in long, crowded lines thanks to FastPass+!

I wonder if the "+" is for all the magical conversations we will have standing in longer lines.

There's going to be the same amount of Fastpasses given out with this system as there is now, it's just that some will be reserved ahead of time rather than day-of.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I really wish fast pass was a paid option. I think it would fix a few problems with how the ques are handled.

Dear Disney,

I know you're watching. Notice that no one has liked this post.

Love,
Tim

 

[awoogala]

I don't want paid fastpasses. No way. Look at six flags. Everyone pays for them. EVERYONE but me..lol Doesn't make a single line shorter. I have waited more than an hour for those rides, easily. I don't see why making people pay would make the regular lines any shorter. I don't like the elitist feeling from paid fastpasses, and I have no problem trying to plan to be able to use fp's now. That is the price I am willing to pay, a little more time planning out an attack so that I don't wait on lines. If that price of time was not acceptable, then I need to wait on a longer line, simple as that.

Oh, and Disney already has a paid fastpass option. It's an all day fastpass for anything, in the form of an employee called a VIP tourguide. We were lucky enough to win that once. It was amazing. We did all the big rides in 3 parks in 7 hours, door to back door service, entrance through employee lots, walking right through the fp lines, and instant reservations for a sit down meal. If you have the money, you can blow several hundred dollars and get instant fastpasses for everything.

 

[Buried20KLeague]

There's going to be the same amount of Fastpasses given out with this system as there is now, it's just that some will be reserved ahead of time rather than day-of.

That's absolutely not true.

They're adding FP to rides, shows, and even apparently DINING (wha????) that don't currently have it to create false demand. There will be, without question, more FP's distributed per day.

Which means more people standing in longer stand by lines.

Yay.

 

[MrNonacho]

That's absolutely not true.

They're adding FP to rides, shows, and even apparently DINING (wha????) that don't currently have it to create false demand. There will be, without question, more FP's distributed per day.

Which means more people standing in longer stand by lines.

Yay.

Sorry, I meant at existing Fastpass attractions. As for the attractions having Fastpass added, I see no point in taking a pessimistic attitude. I don't see it as Disney trying to create false demand at these places; rather, I see it as Disney trying to create more value for the Fastpass+ system. The most popular attractions (ie the ones that already have Fastpass) will most likely remain the first choices of most guests once Fastpass+ rolls out. I think there's a good chance that there won't be a huge impact on the newly added attractions. Time will tell.

 

[Clyde Birdbrain]

I don't like the elitist feeling from paid fastpasses

I would hate paid FastPasses. I was used to Disney's FP system and went to Universal for the first time last year. We didn't pay the extra $35.99 for the 2-park Express Access pass and I felt inferior to those that were able to get in the express line. I felt somehow that people who could afford the Express Pass were better than us, and this was unfair because we all paid park admission. Disney's FP is so much nicer, because everyone gets a fair chance as long as you plan ahead and get your FP in time. This is a much friendlier system and suits Disney better.

 

[awoogala]

Now that I think of it, would the higher tier "paid" fp+ (if that is what does get implemented), be equal to a vip tourguide (who, by the way, has that ability for dining options and the ability to book vip seating at fireworks, and parades)? would the vip tourguides all disappear? I am guessing that would be a significant change for those poor souls.
If they are going away, the higher tier would just be equal to something they have always offered, minus the weirdness of having to make smalltalk with an employee all day..lol

 

[ChrisM]

Dear Disney,

I know you're watching. Notice that no one has liked this post.

Love,
Tim

That's because there's no "love" button. I keep looking for the damn thing everywhere.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

He makes the point that they've spent billions on this program while massive issues persist on multiple e ticket attractions, and then YOU call HIM a troll.

Ironic troll is ironic.

Lord give me strength, this so much... How in any possible way can Martin's comment even remotely be considered a trollish comment? Td's on the other hand just attacked one of the most respected members here for no reason. Martin only posted a fantastic and very true point about the mishandling of theme park funding. While billions of dollars are being squandered on data mining, Splash Mountain is quite literally falling apart. That's now something everyone can truly say and it's not an exaggeration when parts of the mountain are quite literally threatening to hit guests.


Mods, I realize you're very lenient on people with opposing opinions on these boards and I hate to sound like i'm telling you how to do your job, but please try to understand that this is not the way to express such an opinion. Is that comment at all constructive, called for, or relevant? No, it's a direct attack on another member for no reason whatsoever (a member who had an excellent point IMHO).

 

[fngoofy]

Sometimes I wish that they would just get rid of Fastpass altogether and return to the glory days of just waiting in line. Honestly, since they've started really spending money on creating elaborate queues that entertain and distract guests, I think going back to the days of just having to wait wouldn't be so bad.

The "good old days" where nasty, brutish, and short.

 

[scoobygirl39541]

I am at Disney and I spoke to a few cast members about fast pass plus. They told me it only worked ok in trials and others said the trial was "interesting". Rey all confirmed one thing. There will be NO REGULAR FAST PASS after fast pass plus is in full swing.

Sorry don't have time to read the whole thread but we did the Keys to the Kingdom tour today and our guide basically confirmed this No one in our group was in favor of it.

 

[JWG]

So are the tarps still up on one of the resorts flagship attractions?

Sadly, I have to ask "which one are you referring to" given I recall more than one.

The below is awful. I don't know which park I'm going to 60 days in advance much less which rides I want to ride when. This is ridiculous. Booking dining 6 months out is stupid. Stupid begs stupid I guess. Maybe if I stay at a Deluxe resort it can just come with a completed itinerary letting me know when to go where.

I look forward to seeing how TouringPlans.com handles this.

Magic your Way ticket holders may make Fastpass+ selections beginning 60 days prior to the day of use. The selection window may vary for other tickets or passholders. Passes with blackout dates won't be able to make Fastpass+ reservations during blackout days.

Fastpass+ will be avaialble for some dining expieriences. This will secure an arrival window and allow you to order before you arrive. This could apply to both quick service and table service.

 

[MarkTwain]

Fastpass+ will be avaialble for some dining expieriences. This will secure an arrival window and allow you to order before you arrive. This could apply to both quick service and table service.

Is this real life? Who would want to order at a restaurant before even arriving? Hearing the waiter's personal recommendations is one of the best advantages of fine dining. I couldn't imagine just arriving at Le Cellier and having my steak handed to me the moment I sit down... what a terrible dining experience that would be.

 

[Calvin Coolidge]

Magic your Way ticket holders may make Fastpass+ selections beginning 60 days prior to the day of use. The selection window may vary for other tickets or passholders. Passes with blackout dates won't be able to make Fastpass+ reservations during blackout days.

Fastpass+ will be available for some dining experiences. This will secure an arrival window and allow you to order before you arrive. This could apply to both quick service and table service.

Well this sounds like an unmitigated disaster. Forcing people to schedule out each minute of every day, 60 days before you even get there?

Total nightmare.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Is this real life? Who would want to order at a restaurant before even arriving? Hearing the waiter's personal recommendations is one of the best advantages of fine dining. I couldn't imagine just arriving at Le Cellier and having my steak handed to me the moment I sit down... what a terrible dining experience that would be.

That pretty much sums up Fastpass+ and our criticism of it. Who in his right mind wants to set an exact time for riding an attraction six months in advance?


Ceterum censeo tarpinem delendam esse.

 

[Tom Morrow]

Hey I have a fun idea for a game, lets think of all the ways 1.5 billion dollars could have been put to better use across property rather than being used to data-mine the crap out of us and make everything ridiculously complicated (for a place thats supposed to be about having fun and letting loose) and a logistical nightmare.


...wait no, that's not a fun game, it's depressing.

 

[Calvin Coolidge]

I think it's especially problematic - and has the potential to put a stake through the hearts of - DAK and EPCOT. Both parks lend themselves more to an "explore and see what you can discover" style of visiting than the clipboard & whistle, tight-schedule style that seems to be so popular today. The exciting part of these parks is doing things you didn't plan to do: finding a new corner of World Showcase you hadn't noticed before, stopping by an animal exhibit in Maharajah Jungle Trek and just watching the tigers for as long as you'd like, or telling your friends to wait up because you want to watch the model trains at the Germany Pavilion. What role do attractions like Innoventions and Image Works play in a schedule you made before you even got on the plane?

Sad.

 

[jklakeview]

This is getting absolutely ridiculous. I am a planner and I don't even like it. On a typical trip where I have dining, my wife and I love to plan where we are eating, which parks we'll be visiting on which day, what attendance is supposed to be like, and where the parades and night time shows would be. Even being a person that plans like this, I can honestly say I hate this fastpass +. I mean I love getting my fastpasses at the park in order to skip longer lines while I ride other things. For instance, I must have rode the people mover and carousel of progress 5 times each this November while I waited for space mountain. I don't want to have to decide when I'll ride a ride months in advance. Here's a better way of doing it. Why not change the fastpass ticket printers into flat screens with all the possible available times for that day (and only that day). This way I could be at space mountain at 9:00 and take a fast pass for after lunch at 1:00, even though 10:00, 10:30, 11:00, etc. are available. I'm fine with not getting a ticket, I'm fine with using my smartphone or multiple kiosks inserted around the park if I can't remember what I selected. They can still give you a 1 hour wait time before you can choose another fastpass too. I'm fine with that. I don't want to have to plan 180 days in advance what I'll be riding and not be able to make those choices when I'm in the park. I also don't want my food coming out without any communication with a server and guess what, if that does happen, I'm not tipping someone that doesn't have to do anything other than bring out a meal.

 

[lebeau]

I think it's especially problematic - and has the potential to put a stake through the hearts of - DAK and EPCOT. Both parks lend themselves more to an "explore and see what you can discover" style of visiting than the clipboard & whistle, tight-schedule style that seems to be so popular today. The exciting part of these parks is doing things you didn't plan to do: finding a new corner of World Showcase you hadn't noticed before, stopping by an animal exhibit in Maharajah Jungle Trek and just watching the tigers for as long as you'd like, or telling your friends to wait up because you want to watch the model trains at the Germany Pavilion. What role do attractions like Innoventions and Image Works play in a schedule you made before you even got on the plane?

Sad.

You can still watch the trains. From 1:45 - 1:47. But don't dally or you'll be late for your reservation at the snack cart at 1:48.

And I hope you remembered to reserve a potty later.