Fantasyland Rumor Gaining Steam

[captainmoch]

All I will say is I wish that the duplication at any and all Disney parks would stop. The should be enough creativity in WDI to easily do that. In my mind do something with every movie released...show, ride, restaurant, smaller attraction, or parade involvement, etc. I mean even Tangled has a bathroom! Not saying they shouldn't have Little mermaid attractions (or others at both)... just have a ride at one and a show at the other. The parks should be unique in their attractions and experiences.

But not everyone can go to international parks, or even to the other coast's park. While each park having a few unique things is nice, stopping it altogether would alienate a lot of people.

 

[doctornick]

I'm somewhat in the middle when it comes to cloning stuff -- I like park's having unique attractions, but also think that the best things should exist in multiple parks for more people to be able to enjoy. That said, I think the previous point was why not try to spread the love to different franchises which I think is valid. There no reason every decent Disney film couldn't have at least some representation in most resorts on some level -- even if it is something simple like a float in a parade or scene in a projection show or a M&G or even something silly bathrooms like Tangled has at MK.

There's no reason to use any individual film over and over for material when other films get ignored.

 

[Curious Constance]

Jasmine was lied to by Aladdin and she still took him back!

I also think she might be severely farsighted since she didn't recognize that Prince Ali was really Aladdin.

 

[mickEblu]

The not cloning thing didn't work out too well when they opened the Magic Kingdom without POTC. Everyone complained. I think certain attractions need to be cloned but I do agree that certain things should be unique to specific resorts. Keeps things interesting.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

I'm somewhat in the middle when it comes to cloning stuff -- I like park's having unique attractions, but also think that the best things should exist in multiple parks for more people to be able to enjoy. That said, I think the previous point was why not try to spread the love to different franchises which I think is valid. There no reason every decent Disney film couldn't have at least some representation in most resorts on some level -- even if it is something simple like a float in a parade or scene in a projection show or a M&G or even something silly bathrooms like Tangled has at MK.

There's no reason to use any individual film over and over for material when other films get ignored.

I think we all know the reason why some films get all the love while others get nothing. For one thing the Princess franchise has basically taken up all the air from non-princess properties like Hunchback and Lion King. Worldwide box office for The Little Mermaid in 1989 was $211 million, signifying the rebirth of Disney's animation studio. When you have characters raking in that kind of revenue no one should be surprised to see references to that film repeatedly in the parks.

 

[doctornick]

I think we all know the reason why some films get all the love while others get nothing. For one thing the Princess franchise has basically taken up all the air from non-princess properties like Hunchback and Lion King. Worldwide box office for The Little Mermaid in 1989 was $211 million, signifying the rebirth of Disney's animation studio. When you have characters raking in that kind of revenue no one should be surprised to see references to that film repeatedly in the parks.

I don't think anyone is asking for or expecting stuff for Home on the Range or Treasure Planet. But it seems that there is disproportionate usage even among the popular or well regarded films.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

I wonder if there is some formula they use to decide how to rank animated films and their representation in the parks.

 

[Phroobar]

An Atlantis submarine ride would have been better that the Nemo one we got.

 

[Curious Constance]

I wonder if there is some formula they use to decide how to rank animated films and their representation in the parks.

Its gotta have a lot to do with selling merchandise and being popular enough to draw people to want to visit.

 

[Kate F]

This is a bit odd, but a few days ago, I for some reason imagined myself having an argument with a spoiled Frozen fan. It resulted in me typing a rather long note about how unfairly Disney treats some of their properties. I'll only post the parts that are relevant to the conversation:

"You Frozen fans do not deserve any more attention from Disney. You have had WAY more than enough of your fair share of merchandise and attention. How about you be thankful that Disney actually pays attention to you? They've shut down multiple park attractions for you and incorporated Frozen into pretty much every show and are even making a second movie for you."
"There is an undeniable inequality when it comes to Disney and their properties, with some getting much more love than others. Nowadays, unless you are a Star Wars fan or a Frozen fan, Disney doesn't seem to care about you."

 

[FigmentForver96]

This is a bit odd, but a few days ago, I for some reason imagined myself having an argument with a spoiled Frozen fan. It resulted in me typing a rather long note about how unfairly Disney treats some of their properties. I'll only post the parts that are relevant to the conversation:

"You Frozen fans do not deserve any more attention from Disney. You have had WAY more than enough of your fair share of merchandise and attention. How about you be thankful that Disney actually pays attention to you? They've shut down multiple park attractions for you and incorporated Frozen into pretty much every show and are even making a second movie for you."
"There is an undeniable inequality when it comes to Disney and their properties, with some getting much more love than others. Nowadays, unless you are a Star Wars fan or a Frozen fan, Disney doesn't seem to care about you."

Not all of Disney's IPs need to be treated fairly. Some of their IPs absolutely suck and do not need to be in a theme park. Yes Frozen is crazy but it is the biggest and hottest thing right now next to Star Wars. Same thing happened when Lion King proved big. The whole inequality thing is stupid because the idea that all of the IPs must be treated equal means that even some of the sub par ones should be in the parks.

 

[Kate F]

Not all of Disney's IPs need to be treated fairly. Some of their IPs absolutely suck and do not need to be in a theme park. Yes Frozen is crazy but it is the biggest and hottest thing right now next to Star Wars. Same thing happened when Lion King proved big. The whole inequality thing is stupid because the idea that all of the IPs must be treated equal means that even some of the sub par ones should be in the parks.

Yes, I get that some IPs are more popular than others and that some IPs are terrible. I know perfectly well that no one wants a Chicken Little ride. I don't mean that they should have perfect equality across the board. I know Frozen is big and that it will undoubtably get a lot of merchandise, but other properties like Wreck-it-Ralph, Big Hero 6, and Inside Out are all pretty popular as well but they barely get anything. It's as if unless a movie is Frozen popular, they are just going to practically ignore it. I feel like that is a bit of a problem.

 

[FigmentForver96]

Well I'm glad I didn't post the whole thing then...

Yes, I get that some IPs are more popular than others and that some IPs are terrible. I know perfectly well that no one wants a Chicken Little ride. I don't mean that they should have perfect equality across the board. I know Frozen is big and that it will undoubtably get a lot of merchandise, but other properties like Wreck-it-Ralph, Big Hero 6, and Inside Out are all pretty popular as well but they barely get anything. It's as if unless a movie is Frozen popular, they are just going to practically ignore it. I feel like that is a bit of a problem.

Yea other IPs are shadowed by Frozen, but if Forzen had not been as big nobody would have noticed the additions near as much. It would be the typically meet and greet, maybe a segment to a show, parade float. The other IPs would also be noticed more because Frozen would not have been as big. And they have not completely ignored either although we have yet to see Inside Out in the parks. Wreck-it-Ralph and Big Hero 6 have both been represented in the parks.

 

[Kate F]

The thing is though, at this point in time, most people have moved on from the Frozen hype. A lot of the new Frozen additions are a late reaction to its original popularity. Hardly anyone is hyping up Frozen Ever After or the Frozen Stage Show in DCA. Will these attractions be popular, yes. But for the most part, I think people are ready to move on to something else.

Also, considering how much Inside Out made at the box office, I'm pretty shocked they haven't done anything substantial with it yet.

 

[FigmentForver96]

The thing is though, at this point in time, most people have moved on from the Frozen hype. A lot of the new Frozen additions are a late reaction to its original popularity. Hardly anyone is hyping up Frozen Ever After or the Frozen Stage Show in DCA. Will these attractions be popular, yes. But for the most part, I think people are ready to move on to something else.

Also, considering how much Inside Out made at the box office, I'm pretty shocked they haven't done anything substantial with it yet.

I do not know if people have "moved on", especially with a second movie in the works, but I will definitely not argue that other IPs could be represented more in the parks. I would love to see more Inside Out and even Wreck-It-Ralph.

 

[Curious Constance]

The thing is though, at this point in time, most people have moved on from the Frozen hype. A lot of the new Frozen additions are a late reaction to its original popularity. Hardly anyone is hyping up Frozen Ever After or the Frozen Stage Show in DCA. Will these attractions be popular, yes. But for the most part, I think people are ready to move on to something else.

Also, considering how much Inside Out made at the box office, I'm pretty shocked they haven't done anything substantial with it yet.

I would assume it's partly because it's not a big merchandise seller. At least I don't think it is. Things like Frozen and Star Wars probably drive far more merchandise sales than something like Big Hero 6 or Wreck it Ralph. (Even though they were both great movies). Also, I'd imagine if they announced a new Wreck It Ralph attraction, not a huge number of people would be clammering to get to see it as soon as possible. Kids wouldn't beg their parents to go see the new Big Hero 6 ride at nearly the same amounts, like they would with Frozen or Star Wars.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

I would assume it's partly because it's not a big merchandise seller

This.

 

[TP2000]

This is a bit odd, but a few days ago, I for some reason imagined myself having an argument with a spoiled Frozen fan.

This is equally odd, but yesterday afternoon for some reason I found myself standing in the middle of the giant Michael's Crafts store in Brea, California. I was one of only three men in the store, with dozens of lady shoppers. The muzak playing in the store launched into Let It Go from Frozen. By the second chorus at least half a dozen women and girls around me, all strangers to each other, were singing out loud with the song. They knew every word and note, and it was a song and story that obviously resonated deeply with them.

I realized I was in way over my head and decided to find the item I was looking for on Amazon and left the store.

Although slightly rattled, I was reminded that while the initial pop culture craze has naturally died away, the movie isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Like Mary Poppins or Snow White or Lion King, it will be a key part of Disney culture for decades, if not eternity.

 

[Curious Constance]

This is equally odd, but yesterday afternoon for some reason I found myself standing in the middle of the giant Michael's Crafts store in Brea, California. I was one of only three men in the store, with dozens of lady shoppers. The muzak playing in the store launched into Let It Go from Frozen. By the second chorus at least half a dozen women and girls around me, all strangers to each other, were singing out loud with the song. They knew every word and note, and it was a song and story that obviously resonated deeply with them.

I realized I was in way over my head and decided to find the item I was looking for on Amazon and left the store.

Although slightly rattled, I was reminded that while the initial pop culture craze has naturally died away, the movie isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Like Mary Poppins or Snow White or Lion King, it will be a key part of Disney culture for decades, if not eternity.

LOL TP

 

[Deleted member 107043]

People may be tired of Frozen, but there's no meaningful backlash from the general public at this point, at least that I can see.