Fantasyland/Mine Train aerial image update

[Tom]

I'm far more concerned about the amount of quality of the show scenes and general theming of the ride than I am about any intensity. The ride obviously is not going to be a significantly intense thrill ride and that's fine, but given the size, it should have quality indoor scenes to entertain and engage the riders. I'm actually a little surprised that we haven't seem leaks about what the far ride portions will contain -- I think the only real insight on specific scenes has been official "ride through" videos provided by Disney.

We'll see how the finished product is.

I agree. Disney is known for it's immersive experiences, not thrill rides. If the inside portions of the ride are on par with the outside, it's going to be a visually stunning experience from start to finish. And at the same time, it should offer a moderately tame coaster ride that most of the family can enjoy. That's far more important than appealing to the thrill junkies.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

This is going to be a amazing attraction, well designed and themed.

Thankfully what it is not going to be is a thrill coaster, it never was intended to be or does the MK need another thrill ride!

If you hoping for that, you will find UNI or 6 flags just about full of thrill rides.. That is not what Disney is about.

AKK

 

[EpcoTim]

I agree. Disney is known for it's immersive experiences, not thrill rides. If the inside portions of the ride are on par with the outside, it's going to be a visually stunning experience from start to finish. And at the same time, it should offer a moderately tame coaster ride that most of the family can enjoy. That's far more important than appealing to the thrill junkies.

I'm pretty sure you're both spot on with those assessments. With a 36" ride height its not going to be a screamer by any means, but who cares if they do the visuals up like they should. Not like Mermaid, but more like Splash.

 

[doctornick]

I'm pretty sure you're both spot on with those assessments. With a 36" ride height its not going to be a screamer by any means, but who cares if they do the visuals up like they should. Not like Mermaid, but more like Splash.

Right. I'm hoping for something more in the vein of Splash. I know it won't be anywhere near that long or have that many AAs. But I hope for that type of experience with good show scenes/music with a touch of thrill. The main indoor area should allow for a significant amount of AAs and show scenes with a nice score. I'm under the impression that the only other dark ride areas might be in the load/unload building, which should at least have a scene in the Dwarf's cottage at the end. I guess some have suggested that there is a possible scene in the first half of the ride (at the top of the first lift hill?) where the track passes by a mine entrance that might have a scene in it to view as you go by.

 

[Sped2424]

While I think the mine train will be the best part of new fantasyland, there is no denying that yes Magic kingdom does need more quality attractions and trhill rides. Thrill rides are something that disney has proven that they can do quite well, Everest, Tower of Terror, Rocking Roller coaster, space mountain, matter horn, etc etc. New fantasyland I feel is going to be a very welcomed addition when all is said and done, but I still feel like the space they have they should have utilized better and put more in. Hopefully in the future our fantasyland ill be able to compete with disneylands.

 

[Captain Chaos]

I find it hard that anyone can read the pessimism on these boards about this ride and have too high of expectations. I actually think that many folks here are going to be pleasantly surprised by the 7DMT because of how much it has been slammed that expectations have been markedly tempered.

Disney can serve people here dog food and they would swear it was the best meal they ever had on Disney property...

 

[unkadug]

Disney can serve people here dog food and they would swear it was the best meal they ever had on Disney property...

They actually do. Disney food is notoriously overrated.

 

[Captain Chaos]

They actually do. Disney food is notoriously overrated.

Well, yea I will give you that... I was talking more like Kibbles and Bits.. I can see some of the members here wearing their Mickey ears, dragging their tired and half asleep 5 year old, who is whining and crying, to a character meal, all the while screaming Kibbles and Bits, Kibbles and Bits, I'm going to get me some Kibbles and Bits... Or is it more like Groping a mouse, groping a mouse, I'm going to grope me an animated mouse!!!

 

[phi2134]

You clearly have a good understanding of what makes a great ride. Go back to Six Flags.

You got me there buddy...I heard the code name for this project was "Beast train".

Been to disney about fifteen times in my life and just really had it with these brand new value engineered rides that only come out once ever seven years it seems

 

[Captain Chaos]

You clearly have a good understanding of what makes a great ride. Go back to Six Flags.

You clearly don't if you think this is a "beast"...

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

In all our many trips to WDW, DL, we have never had a bad meal. I totally disagree with Disney food being over rated. With the exception, A and V, which is 5 star and have the awards to prove it, they are not 5 star, but they were never put out as 5 star.

True a few meals were not the best, but most were good to excellent, well themed and plain ole GOOD!

Seems though, the crowds seem to agree as well.

However as food and meals are so subjective, I can some folks may not be overwhelmed, so I suggest everyone try the restaurant of their choice.


AKK

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Cosmic Ray's gives Comic Strip Cafe a run for it's money as worst theme park food in Orlando

 

[MOXOMUMD]

Dude, this ride looks awesome gnarly intense to the maximum degree, we went down the first five foot drop and was like "brraaahhhhhhh" and went around the curve and was "whoooaaaaa". The g's were so intense my ed hardy tank top almost ripped right off.

Beast mode... Yeah right

Righteous!

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

Right. I'm hoping for something more in the vein of Splash. I know it won't be anywhere near that long or have that many AAs. But I hope for that type of experience with good show scenes/music with a touch of thrill. The main indoor area should allow for a significant amount of AAs and show scenes with a nice score. I'm under the impression that the only other dark ride areas might be in the load/unload building, which should at least have a scene in the Dwarf's cottage at the end. I guess some have suggested that there is a possible scene in the first half of the ride (at the top of the first lift hill?) where the track passes by a mine entrance that might have a scene in it to view as you go by.

At this point, from everything I have seen and read, its looking like there will be at least 3, but probably no more than 5, show "scene" areas.

1. Mine tunnel to the left of Lift A
2. Mine show scene (first part of the show building)
3. Along Lift B (projection effect)
4. At the top and to the right of Lift B (if it even exists, as this is based solely on Lee's doodle of the layout)
5. Cottage at the exit/unload area

Of these, only 2 has the potential to be a large, immersive set. The mine tunnel on Lift A (1) is just not that large a space, plus its off to the side and away from riders. The cottage scene (5) should be more impressive than Lift A, but its still going to basically be a prop at the side of the track. And Lift B (3) looks to be a wall projection. And at this point, there is no indication that there will be any outdoor track scenes. And even if there were, there are so many limiting factors (weather, limited space, bad viewing angles, the speed of the trains) that any kind of immersive scene is probably out of the question.

Below is @Lee's famous doodle of the layout. As is clearly evident, there just isn't that much interior building space (the brown section) for a significant number of show scenes. At best, there is only room for three distinct show scenes (assuming there is something at the top of Lift B).

For anyone hoping for a number of Splash Mountain scale scenes, the simple reality is that there is no space for them. Despite the ride's name, there is actually very little "mine" in the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train. I'd love for someone to prove me wrong right now, though.

 

[doctornick]

At this point, from everything I have seen and read, its looking like there will be at least 3, but probably no more than 5, show "scene" areas.

1. Mine tunnel to the left of Lift A
2. Mine show scene (first part of the show building)
3. Along Lift B (projection effect)
4. At the top and to the right of Lift B (if it even exists, as this is based solely on Lee's doodle of the layout)
5. Cottage at the exit/unload area

Of these, only 2 has the potential to be a large, immersive set. The mine tunnel on Lift A (1) is just not that large a space, plus its off to the side and away from riders. The cottage scene (5) should be more impressive than Lift A, but its still going to basically be a prop at the side of the track. And Lift B (3) looks to be a wall projection. And at this point, there is no indication that there will be any outdoor track scenes. And even if there were, there are so many limiting factors (weather, limited space, bad viewing angles, the speed of the trains) that any kind of immersive scene is probably out of the question.

Why are you suggesting that there would be projection effects along Lift B? I don't know what the width of the tunnel is like, but couldn't there be physical pieces (AAs or static figures?) along the side of the lift hill as you go upwards?

Also, at least theoretically, couldn't there be show scenes at the beginning of the ride before you leave the loading building for a possibility of 6 areas? (I don't expect there to be anything in this area, just that it is another possibility.)

 

[Pixie VaVoom]

While I think the mine train will be the best part of new fantasyland, there is no denying that yes Magic kingdom does need more quality attractions and trhill rides. Thrill rides are something that disney has proven that they can do quite well, Everest, Tower of Terror, Rocking Roller coaster, space mountain, matter horn, etc etc. New fantasyland I feel is going to be a very welcomed addition when all is said and done, but I still feel like the space they have they should have utilized better and put more in. Hopefully in the future our fantasyland ill be able to compete with disneylands.

Magic Kingdom can wait for anymore rides. The WDW Admin NEEDS to focus on AK and DHS. NO Orlando Disney Park should EVER be classedas a "half-day". Bring back the quality and creativity that Disney USED to be famous for!!! And don't charge us 2 arms and a leg for it !!

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

Why are you suggesting that there would be projection effects along Lift B? I don't know what the width of the tunnel is like, but couldn't there be physical pieces (AAs or static figures?) along the side of the lift hill as you go upwards?

Also, at least theoretically, couldn't there be show scenes at the beginning of the ride before you leave the loading building for a possibility of 6 areas? (I don't expect there to be anything in this area, just that it is another possibility.)

Its based on the virtual ride thru that Disney provided.

Starting at :20. Incidentally, this video basically shows what 2/3 of the ride will look like. Apart from the initial mine scene, there just isn't that much else to look at.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Frankly I believe I will wait until the attraction opens before judging it by a overhead photo and a limited, not complete, video!

I never understand why some just have to tear something apart before they have all the information and the attraction is open.

I heard the same thing from a few on the DL threads, when Cars land was being built. Obviously they were VERY wrong!

AKK

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Frankly I believe I will wait until the attraction opens before judging it by a overhead photo and a limited, not complete, video!

I never understand why some just have to tear something apart before they have all the information and the attraction is open.

I heard the same thing from a few on the DL threads, when Cars land was being built. Obviously they were VERY wrong!

AKK

I'll go out on a limb and declare that 7DMT won't be quite as impressive as Cars Land.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I'll go out on a limb and declare that 7DMT won't be quite as impressive as Cars Land

Well Disenyland 71, I'll agree as its only 1 attraction not a whole land and I was not saying it was.

My point was its silly to tear apart a attraction we have limited information and a short, partial video and draw big conclusions from that! Some did the same thing with Cars land and were wrong

However , if you want to, are free to! I'll wait a bit!

AKK