Expedition Everest drop, in excess of 100ft!

[Grantsdale]

I agree. He said becuase he had Disney shares or something, he knew exactly how much money was being spent? I still think it's $100 million for the cost.

You really have a problem with misquoting people.

 

[Shaman]

*points to Corrus' sig*

 

[Woody13]

*points to Corrus' sig*

Yeah, I trust "The Mean Guy". :lol:

 

[Yen_Sid1]

I have several emails out in an attempt to find that out once and for all.
So far...nothing....

Yen_Sid...what's your take on that?

I guess it depends on what your definition of a drop is?
It won't be a drop at one constant angle, the angle may change, The drop may start at a 15 degree angle then lower to 5 degrees then increase to 40 degrees. There is a constant change in elevation, so it could be considered a drop.

 

[animal_king1990]

I guess it depends on what your definition of a drop is?
It won't be a drop at one constant angle, the angle may change, The drop may start at a 15 degree angle then lower to 5 degrees then increase to 40 degrees. There is a constant change in elevation, so it could be considered a drop.

And that would be including the helix at the bottom also right?

 

[Grantsdale]

And that would be including the helix at the bottom also right?

The bottom isn't a helix, its a turn. Here is a picture of a helix: Note that the track turns basically an entire 360. Not all helixes necessarily have to go all 360 degrees, but there is a difference between a simple turn and a helix. Just FYI.

What he is talking about is this:

Switchtrack is a decline at degree X (incline on the way in, of course, decline on the way out)
Track then levels to degree Y (note that this is not flat, but still a downward slope) *This is right before you exit the mountain - this portion can be seen in the pic yen_sid1 linked earlier in the thread*
Track then declines to degree Z (this is the big 80ft portion of the drop)

 

[Jose Eber]

And that would be including the helix at the bottom also right?

God Almighty! I thought I had free time.

As per cost you don't need to be an imagineer or pose as one to know the reported figures -- 100 million per Forbes. The software (its been talked about on the boards here before) they use helps shave overages.

"Changes and glitches can add 25% to the cost of a troubled construction project. "If we could get that to under 10%, that would be a huge savings," Goodman says--$3 million or more on a big project like Expedition Everest.""

According to the article -- Screamin' Cost about 50 million.

 

[Sergeant Tibbs]

Basically, yes!!

About the track switch also, The area above the track switch is a brake zone. So there a lot of things going on there. The ride computer has to check and see if the area is clear to rotate the track switch and the train is in proper position before it rotates it, and then after to make sure the track switch is locked and in proper position. Then it has to make sure the brake zone ahead is clear, before it will let the train go. So if they are slow loading or unloading, you could be up there for a while.

Well besides the waiting part, it sounds AMAZING!

 

[Tim G]

God Almighty! I thought I had free time.

As per cost you don't need to be an imagineer or pose as one to know the reported figures -- 100 million per Forbes. The software (its been talked about on the boards here before) they use helps shave overages.

"Changes and glitches can add 25% to the cost of a troubled construction project. "If we could get that to under 10%, that would be a huge savings," Goodman says--$3 million or more on a big project like Expedition Everest.""

According to the article -- Screamin' Cost about 50 million.

Walt Disney Imagineering has a reputation for missing deadlines and exceeding cost estimates...

And about Screamin' ... That was estimated for 40M..... and ended at more than 55... But that's a whole different kind of cookie :lol:

But what are we arguing about... Let's all be glad there will be an Everest next year...

 

[animal_king1990]

God Almighty! I thought I had free time.

As per cost you don't need to be an imagineer or pose as one to know the reported figures -- 100 million per Forbes. The software (its been talked about on the boards here before) they use helps shave overages.

"Changes and glitches can add 25% to the cost of a troubled construction project. "If we could get that to under 10%, that would be a huge savings," Goodman says--$3 million or more on a big project like Expedition Everest.""

According to the article -- Screamin' Cost about 50 million.

I don't exactly know what you're talking about. Are you saying that the cost for EE is less than $100 million?

 

[Lee]

I guess it depends on what your definition of a drop is?
It won't be a drop at one constant angle, the angle may change, The drop may start at a 15 degree angle then lower to 5 degrees then increase to 40 degrees. There is a constant change in elevation, so it could be considered a drop.

Exactly!
That's what I've been trying to get across...

 

[wdwmagic]

I don't exactly know what you're talking about. Are you saying that the cost for EE is less than $100 million?

What is being said, is that exact costs for WDW projects are known by on a few, and those who know are not going to say. You may get approximations, but that is all they are. It doesnt matter who is reporting them either, the huge news organisations, or a poster on here, they are all just approximations. Everest is clearly one of the biggest attractions ever undertaken by Disney, so its safe to assume its in the approx $100 million mark, but more precise than that, you arent going to get.

 

[Main Street Jim]

In reference to this thread:

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=65706

I went to my Everest Opening Team interview today. Talked with *ATTRACTIONS* managers there, since I used to work at Splash, at length about comparing the two (there isn't any, really ). I am an Attractions Cast (Steam Trains at MK), former trainer at Splash, trainer on Main Street Attractions as well. Spoke to some of the T&A Cast (that's "Test and Adjust" Cast) that have been working at Everest since they got the trains running a couple of months back. The longest drop is 80 feet *in height*. It may 112 feet long, but more than three people at the Expo say that that "big drop" is only 80 feet high.

Got to see pics of where the "mangled track" is at the top; you will be *amazed* at the view of the entire WDW property that the front row of the train will get from that point It will drop at over 60 mph backwards. The ride length is just over 3 minutes on almost a mile of track.

 

[Valawen9]

Got to see pics of where the "mangled track" is at the top; you will be *amazed* at the view of the entire WDW property that the front row of the train will get from that point It will drop at over 60 mph backwards. The ride length is just over 3 minutes on almost a mile of track.

Drop backwards?

Ok I'm scared again. lol

 

[Madison]

It will drop at over 60 mph backwards.

See, I'm of the mind that this is incorrect -- thus exemplifying that all of these people -- whether they be attractions CMs, public relations folks, or anyone down the chain of command that's not sitting at a Common Point workstation -- are simply regurgitating information they've heard or been told elsewhere.

Have you ever played telephone?

Edit: For those who're interested, here is a picture of a typical double-dip or double-down. The rightmost track is what you're interested in.

 

[wannab@dis]

It will drop at over 60 mph backwards.

If you got that speed from the same people telling you the height, then all your 'facts' will be called into question. Disney marketing is releasing 50mph as the top speed along with the 112' drop height. I would think they would have released it as 60mph if it was true.

Sorry... gotta call it like I see it.

 

[RIPHorizons]

Thank you Madison for the example.

 

[dandaman]

Drop backwards?

Ok I'm scared again.

I'm even more excited now!

 

[CaptainMichael]

Drop backwards?

Ok I'm scared again. lol

I wouldn't call it a drop like you are probably thinking, but you will go backwards, in essence, dropping.

 

[Valawen9]

I wouldn't call it a drop like you are probably thinking, but you will go backwards, in essence, dropping.

You must be reading my mind because when I hear "dropping backwards" I'm picturing like, a straight down 70ft backwards drop or something lol.