Everest Track photos

[testtracker]

Originally posted by Montu
Anyway, I'm obviously joking with the qoutes, but that is pretty much how it went down. Disney wanted a launched, indoor looping coaster.

Yes all that you said is very true. But I'm 99.9 percent sure that there will be no loops on Everest, and it won't be completly indoors like SM.

 

[Montu]

Originally posted by Lee
As I've said before, it's not the track that makes Vekoma's rough, it's the wheel sets. The new bogies and wheels they are introducing should solve many problems. That goes for Space at DLP and even older SLCs.

For the most part, I agree with you. Tracking does have some effect - for example as I mentioned in Premiers case, some of the transitions between elements and between turns are just stupidly poor. Vekoma really isn't that bad about that - and they've gotten much better over the years.

Not all B&Ms are smooth. Scream! felt like it was running on square wheels. But hey, at least it's not a Togo. If you want to risk serious spinal injury, ride Manhurtin Express.

Iron Wolf.

Ugggggggggggggh. There's a few others that are bad. Chang is hit or miss - and when it's miss, it's very miss. I like Scream!. It's rougher than Medusa, but I didn't find it to be rough at all, especially not compared to Viper on the other side of the park. I am, however willing to agree that in a few years, Scream! will likely be awful, especially with Six Flags' maintence (or lack there of). I really enjoy Manhattan Express. But in THIS instance, I will agree with you that it is a rough coaster. It'd be sweet without those stupid shoulder hooks. It's still very unique, and I appreciate it. I'm just used to having to ride it alone whenever I go to Vegas cuz no one else I know will get on the thing again hehe.

Let's see, what else...
I love B&Ms flyer restraints. They are much more secure feeling, compared to Vekoma's which make you feel like you're gonna fall on your face. However, I am looking forward to what Vekoma is doing for Everest. I understand that the lap bars are going to be similar to Intamin's on Xcelerator, Millie, etc.

Like I said in a different response - I absolutely hate the first version of B&M's flyer restraints. The second version is an improvement, but still too claustrophobic. Vekoma's are also claustrophobic, just much less so. How do you see a feeling of insecurity as being a negative point on a ride designed to have it's passenger in the prone position?

If you are correct about the T-bar restraints, that would be fantastic. I can't think of any Vekoma's off hand that have a configuration like that off the top of my head... Mummy is unfortunately going to have the massive Premier lap bars and massive Premier shin bars

 

[Montu]

Originally posted by testtracker
Yes all that you said is very true. But I'm 99.9 percent sure that there will be no loops on Everest, and it won't be completly indoors like SM.

Well, in reguards to Expedition: EVEREST, that's all been very clear since the beginning for the most part. Pics of the model have been around for a while now. I think Lee mentioned that he's been trying to hold on to the pics for a year now. I know I've had a pic of the model for probably near as long. The ride was never intended to have loops. It's a sooped up mine train coaster - that's what it was designed to be. Take another look at the model - it's clear that a good portion of the attraction has track outside the mountain.

 

[Lee]

Originally posted by Montu
How do you see a feeling of insecurity as being a negative point on a ride designed to have it's passenger in the prone position?

It's just different taste, I guess. I prefer a sensation of flying like I get on Superman. On Vekoma flyers, when you roll over after the lift it seriously feels like you're going to fall. That feeling overides the sensation of flying for me.

Ane of course Everest will have no loops. Some people have been saying that it's just of re-theming of the coaster that was designed for Beastly Kingdom (Dragon's Keep, Dare the Dragon).
But that is way off base. That was gonna have several inversions.

 

[imagineer99]

Lee,

Any info. on Everest's lift?

Are the trains going to stop and view show elements before the "roller coaster ride" actually starts?

 

[Lee]

To my knowledge it won't be stopping. Everything you see will be pretty much while in motion.
And don't expect too much in the way of "scenes". You go, you ride, you pass some stuff, you go backwards, you see the yeti, you ride some more......no real stopping.

And in response to an earlier comment, yes...I've had model photos and ride info for well over a year now.

 

[imagineer99]

Originally posted by Lee
To my knowledge it won't be stopping. Everything you see will be pretty much while in motion.
And don't expect too much in the way of "scenes". You go, you ride, you pass some stuff, you go backwards, you see the yeti, you ride some more......no real stopping.

AH! RATS!

Thanks for the information, though. I really appreciate it!

One last question (I promise I'll stop after this):

Is there going to be a voice narration of the ride like in Dinosaur?

 

[Abercrombie Kid]

Disney made an awesome descion 2 use Vekoma. Beacause the Flight of Fear ride is really painful, and was poorly designed. Disney's audience is mostly famlies so it needed 2 be not rough for the family appeal. But Vekoma has made some rough coasters but their recet Disney-Vekoma ride RNRC has turned out to not have the same problems. Also Vekoma is one of the only brand coaster companies 2 work w/ Disney's need 4 a custom designed track/ trains/ and technology. Vekoma understands that what will make this ride is it's theming and effects, the coaster compliments this. Instead of this ride being in a showbuiding warehouse this ride is housed inside a 200 foot mountian. That's pretty freakin big! Because of this they needed 2 have an improved track design because of the maintence and effects around the car. Got it.... Good:animwink:

AnFRyan

 

[Bill]

I think I can add a little. The Yeti is a 17 ft. walking animatron. He's awesome.

Ever been to Epcot's Ice Station Cool? Ah, true proof that it can snow in Fla. And snow it will on Everest.

Okay, enough said.

 

[Lee]

Originally posted by imagineer99
Is there going to be a voice narration of the ride like in Dinosaur?

Not that I have heard about. I'll try to find out.

 

[Shaman]

So how long are they going for (in minutes) with E:E?

 

[Yen_Sid1]

Originally posted by Montu
That's actually not true. Originally they were going to go with Premier Rides - who designed the first indoor magnetic launched coasters - the Outer Limits: Flight of Fear at Paramount's Kings Island and Kings Dominion, in Ohio and Virginia respectively.

Basicly, what it came down to is this:
WDI: "hey"
Premier: "hey"
WDI: "we like your ride"
Premier: "cool, thanks"
WDI: "so um, can you make us one?"
Premier: "ok"
WDI: "cool, but can you make it smooth so everyone can ride it?"
Premier: "hahahahhahahhaha"
Premier: "wait, you were serious"
Premier: "no"

WDI: "vekoma, you built us five coasters so far, can you make a ride like premier that is smooth?"
Vekoma: "yah we like your money, we are from holland"

Anyway, I'm obviously joking with the qoutes, but that is pretty much how it went down. Disney wanted a launched, indoor looping coaster. Til that point, the only ones in existence were designed by Premier Rides. Neat rides, but very poorly designed track tranisitions and even worse designed trains. Disney wanted one of those - in concept, but not in practice. After riding the Flight of Fear they knew that was nothing their park guests would want, and since Premier pretty much said "this is how our rides are" Disney turned to Vekoma, who had already designed 5 other coasters for them at the time, including one launched, indoor tripple looper for Disneyland Paris and said we want one, LSM launched, can you do it? They helped with the cost of R&D and what came out of it was a good deal for both companies, because Disney got the type of ride they wanted, and Vekoma got a new type of coaster to market at very little R&D cost to them to get it off the ground.

Actually I think you misread my post. When I said "RnR is built by Vekoma and it is pretty smooth" That was a reply to the person who said Vekoma rides are rough. And the rest of the post was dealing with the track at Everest not RnR.

 

[DisneyFan 2000]

Originally posted by Bill
I think I can add a little. The Yeti is a 17 ft. walking animatron. He's awesome.

Ever been to Epcot's Ice Station Cool? Ah, true proof that it can snow in Fla. And snow it will on Everest.

Okay, enough said.

Say more, please!

 

[Yen_Sid1]

My friend went today (Friday) and saw a built to scale model of Expedition Everest. He said it was about 12-15 ft. tall located in the WDI trailers at AK. He said it was going to be huge and a lot bigger than he expected. It will be as tall as ToT at 199 ft, but will cover a lot more area. The base will cover more than an acre in size and there will over 4 acres of rockwork, it will look like mountain range instead of one singular mountain, like the Matterhorn. So when you are coming from the Asia side, it will look like a range of mountains with Everest, the biggest peak will be in the rear.

Other tidbits:

The train will go in and out of the mountain 7 or 8 times.

The train Engine will be at the rear of the train so it will act like it is pushing instead of pulling.

It will seat 36 or 38 including a couple of seats in the engine car.

Each time it transitions in or out of the mountain, it will be in narrow tunnels. So it will seem faster.

One big drop (80ft) will be in the front of the ride where everybody can see it from the bridge or pathway. There will be an over look near the queue line.

Look for some surprises inside the mountain.

The pathway between Dinoland and Asia should be finished and open before Easter. (So everyone will be able to get a closer look).

 

[Lee]

Pretty much accurate.
The only thing I would clarify is that the train will not exit the mountain 8 times. It exits more like about 4.

Everything else sounds like one of my posts from last year.

Oh, and the model is not THAT big. 10-15 feet wouldn't fit in those trailers

 

[Shaman]

Originally posted by Yen_Sid1
The pathway between Dinoland and Asia should be finished and open before Easter. (So everyone will be able to get a closer look).

Wow...before easter? Will they be opening anything in that area, other than the bridge?

 

[WDWFREAK53]

Originally posted by Lee
Pretty much accurate.
The only thing I would clarify is that the train will not exit the mountain 8 times. It exits more like about 4.

Everything else sounds like one of my posts from last year.

Oh, and the model is not THAT big. 10-15 feet wouldn't fit in those trailers

Both are right

7 or 8 times (in and out)

about 4 times "out"



(7 or 8 tunnels in the mountain)

(4 times the train actually exits)

 

[Yen_Sid1]

Originally posted by Lee
Pretty much accurate.
The only thing I would clarify is that the train will not exit the mountain 8 times. It exits more like about 4.

Everything else sounds like one of my posts from last year.

Oh, and the model is not THAT big. 10-15 feet wouldn't fit in those trailers

Okay. I will clarify it for you. It goes in 4 times and out 4 times so that adds up to 8.

Who said the model is in the trailer? Of course, it wouldn't fit in the trailer. It is 12 -15 ft tall.

 

[Lee]

Originally posted by Yen_Sid1
Okay. I will clarify it for you. It goes in 4 times and out 4 times so that adds up to 8.

Yeah, I know. As I said, I was clarifying.

Who said the model is in the trailer? Of course, it wouldn't fit in the trailer. It is 12 -15 ft tall. [/B]

I was kinda kidding. I should have used a smiley.
Anyway, the one I saw wasn't that tall.

 

[grandmath]

how long the whole ride should last? :veryconfu