DisneyFan 2000
Well-Known Member
Not true, I think! At DCA California Screamin' is Intanim!
I think they need to work side by side in order to create the coaster!
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Not true, I think! At DCA California Screamin' is Intanim!
I think they need to work side by side in order to create the coaster!
imagineer99
New Member
DCA's California Screamin' was created by Intanim! But I'm almost positive that Vekoma and Disney have some sort of contract agreement (maybe it's only in WDW parks.) It just seems odd that they would keep going back to same company, especially if their rides don't hold up well.
Plus, I'm asking wether vekoma simply supplies the track after imagineering has designed the layout or if vekoma designs the track and layout based ont the specifications of the imagineers.
Yen_Sid1
New Member
RnR is built by Vekoma and it is pretty smooth. I heard originally they wanted to go with B&M, but they weren't very flexible. It was like we build it and you run it. They wouldn't let WDI make any changes it had to be a B&M design. With Vekoma, they worked together on changes and special added features. Basically, Vekoma would let WDI customize their design and B&M wouldn't.
KrakenKing2002
New Member
Hmm, I would've liked to see it built by Intamin... oh well.
Also, I think that AK should've went w/ the intended flying coaster, but no, disney called it an "Eye sore"
Also, I think that AK should've went w/ the intended flying coaster, but no, disney called it an "Eye sore"
ucf disneyfan
New Member
Take "The Hulk" for instance. It is a B&M Coaster at IOA. Universal wanted the Hulk to be launched up the lift hill but B&M doesn't build launched coasters so they wouldn't do it. So B&M built the entire coaster except for the lift hill. When the coaster was done being assembled Universal Engineers had to design, fabricate, and install their own launch system. Thats why Disney won't use B&M, because they build the best coaster but are not flexible because of it. One reason I constantly hear that is a main factor for Vekomas being so bumpy is the type of wheels they use on the trains.
joel_maxwell
Permanent Resident of EPCOT
yeh, the last time i checked, i dont think a run-away train would be a smooth ride. i would mind a little rattle myself. It would make it more realistic.
i guess we will find out in 2 years.............................
i think (in my humble opinion) the bumpiness maybe determined by the weigh in the trains. ive riden RNRC when it was bumpy and when it was absolutely the smoothest it could be. or it could be how well the wheels are greased.
i guess we will find out in 2 years.............................
i think (in my humble opinion) the bumpiness maybe determined by the weigh in the trains. ive riden RNRC when it was bumpy and when it was absolutely the smoothest it could be. or it could be how well the wheels are greased.
ogryn
Well-Known Member
The bumpiness can seriously affect your views of a ride. My Mum won't go on Space Mountain @ DLP now because she gets thrown around so much inside the restraints.
On the last visit she got a huge bruise on her arm, cause be being thrown from side to side (personally I think it was going into the horseshoe that did it. Nasty nasty element.) Cause I'm a bit taller I just got my head-banged about a bit. (after the first ride I learnt that if you don't hold the handles, but hold your ear lobes, your hands are in the right position to cusion the blow.)
Although this shouldn't be too much of a problem as E:E won't have Over-The-Shoulder Restraints.
For an example of a good OTSR go have a go on a B&M Flyer. mmmm
On the last visit she got a huge bruise on her arm, cause be being thrown from side to side (personally I think it was going into the horseshoe that did it. Nasty nasty element.) Cause I'm a bit taller I just got my head-banged about a bit. (after the first ride I learnt that if you don't hold the handles, but hold your ear lobes, your hands are in the right position to cusion the blow.)
Although this shouldn't be too much of a problem as E:E won't have Over-The-Shoulder Restraints.
For an example of a good OTSR go have a go on a B&M Flyer. mmmm
imagineer99
New Member
It would've been a huge eyesore...
Metal and Exposed supports do NOT belong in Disney parks!
imagineer99
New Member
If you're refering to Expedition Everest...not much is known right now.
We do know that the ride will have show elements as it ascends. Also, we know that the train we'll encounter a VERY large animatronic Yeti that will appear to "lift" up the train and send it backwards from where it has come!
It's gonna be awesome! (I hope)
KrakenKing2002
New Member
Not to be rude... but Primeval(Sp?) Whirl is pretty darn ugly IMO, lol.
Pixie Duster
New Member
The term is campy, get it right! 
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imagineer99
New Member
I agree Dinorama looks terrible...
However, according to theme of the area, it's supposed to look cheasy!
IMO, it's an excuse to build things on the cheap.
imagineer99
New Member
Interesting...you gotta love the rumors that run wild on the internet!
Either way, it should be tight.
Lee
Adventurer
I got a good look at the Everest track this week. As we already knew, it is Vekoma track. I expected it to be standard Vekoma Mine Train track, but it's not. It does look like track that can accomocate outside wheels.
Vekoma has undergone a change in management, and their future looks very promising. Several new track designs are in the works, from what I hear.
There was a 4 coaster deal with Vekoma:
Space Mountain at DLP
The 2 Rock n' Rollers
Space Mountain for Hong Kong
The deal is over, but due to the good working relationship, they will continue to build for Disney, including Everest and the new Space Mountain for Disneyland.
Vekoma has undergone a change in management, and their future looks very promising. Several new track designs are in the works, from what I hear.
There was a 4 coaster deal with Vekoma:
Space Mountain at DLP
The 2 Rock n' Rollers
Space Mountain for Hong Kong
The deal is over, but due to the good working relationship, they will continue to build for Disney, including Everest and the new Space Mountain for Disneyland.
WiCKMaN
Member
About Vekoma; Vekoma has designed a new type of coaster under-carriage, that will run much smoother on existing tracks. Disney has confirmed to replace the under-carriages of all Space Mountain trains (DLP).
So maybe they finally found the answer to their rough rides. The designed the new under-carriages to run smooth on Existing tracks. Maybe the new type of track was designed to prevent the ride from becoming rough at all.
So maybe they finally found the answer to their rough rides. The designed the new under-carriages to run smooth on Existing tracks. Maybe the new type of track was designed to prevent the ride from becoming rough at all.
Lee
Adventurer
Absolutely right.
The DLP trains should have the new wheel-sets within a couple of months. A little TLC to the Mountain itself and the ride should be good as new.
A word about the supports. When I was looking at the supports up close, they looked a bit unusual to me. Normally supports are bolted to footers in the ground, and extend up to the track. A few of the supports already on site look as though they will be attached to another support structure, or even part of the mountain. Time will tell.
Work is moving right along, most noticibly on the "villiage" area leading to the mountain, including bathrooms. Guests will be walking around in that area at some point while the mountain is still under construction. From behind the "big white wall" there is not much to see, as site work is still ongoing. When the actual mountain starts to go up, it will progress much faster, and should be "in the dry" by early next year at the latest.
Best I could find out, the trains haven't even been built yet. When they are they will be built at the Vekoma main plant. I think the track is being fabricated here, at one of Vekoma's US vendor plants.
The DLP trains should have the new wheel-sets within a couple of months. A little TLC to the Mountain itself and the ride should be good as new.
A word about the supports. When I was looking at the supports up close, they looked a bit unusual to me. Normally supports are bolted to footers in the ground, and extend up to the track. A few of the supports already on site look as though they will be attached to another support structure, or even part of the mountain. Time will tell.
Work is moving right along, most noticibly on the "villiage" area leading to the mountain, including bathrooms. Guests will be walking around in that area at some point while the mountain is still under construction. From behind the "big white wall" there is not much to see, as site work is still ongoing. When the actual mountain starts to go up, it will progress much faster, and should be "in the dry" by early next year at the latest.
Best I could find out, the trains haven't even been built yet. When they are they will be built at the Vekoma main plant. I think the track is being fabricated here, at one of Vekoma's US vendor plants.