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Everest Track photos
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Either way, it should be tight.
the-reason
New Member
Originally posted by imagineer99
I agree Dinorama looks terrible...
However, according to theme of the area, it's supposed to look cheasy!IMO, it's an excuse to build things on the cheap.
mmm, Im sorry to say, but I disagree.Maybe it doesnt really have an elaborate theme, but i think it did bring some good to dinoland.However, I dont like the fact of the sideshow things they have there, now I agree they did put that in on the cheap side.The little sideshows that you see around every corner at a sixflags park, I think they didnt have to add that.It makes it feel undisneylike.But Primival whirl is a good coaster, and Ive seen a lotta families ride it, and That means Disney is still trying to attract the family audience, and to me, they did with this coaster.
And your right, it doesnt have a good theme, but Its still a great family must do.IMO
imagineer99
New Member
There are ways to build family rides that are fun and look appropriate. Dinorama is not only cheap looking, but goes against the Disney philosophy of aesthetics. Dinorama is an eyesore plain and simple! Looking at carnival games in such a beautiful place as Animal Kingdom makes me sick.
I don't doubt that such an additon as Dinorama was needed to add more attractions to Animal Kingdom. However, sooooo many other things could have been done!
scottbs_21
New Member
While there's discussion of what the storyline is... Does anyone have any links/pics of the track layout?
imagineersrock
New Member
questions answered...
first of all, here is the overall storyline which someone had asked for:
Walt Disney World guests will discover for themselves the fearsome legend of the yeti when Expedition EVEREST opens in 2006 at Disney’s Animal Kingdom theme park. In Expedition EVEREST, guests board an old mountain railway destined for the foot of Mount Everest. The train rolls through thick bamboo forests, past thundering waterfalls, along shimmering glacier fields and climbs higher and higher through the snow-capped peaks.
But suddenly the track ends in a gnarled mass of twisted metal and the thrills intensify as the train races both forward and backward through mountain caverns and icy canyons and guests head for an inevitable face-to-muzzle showdown with the mysterious yeti -- known to some as the abominable snowman.
Expedition EVEREST will be located in the Asia section of the theme park. At nearly 200 feet high, it will be the tallest mountain in Florida.
.....and i think someone asked about a pic of the track layout:
thats the origional imagineer model.. no telling if things have changed since this one though.. it at least gives you the overall idea.
hope that helps.
-alex
first of all, here is the overall storyline which someone had asked for:
Walt Disney World guests will discover for themselves the fearsome legend of the yeti when Expedition EVEREST opens in 2006 at Disney’s Animal Kingdom theme park. In Expedition EVEREST, guests board an old mountain railway destined for the foot of Mount Everest. The train rolls through thick bamboo forests, past thundering waterfalls, along shimmering glacier fields and climbs higher and higher through the snow-capped peaks.
But suddenly the track ends in a gnarled mass of twisted metal and the thrills intensify as the train races both forward and backward through mountain caverns and icy canyons and guests head for an inevitable face-to-muzzle showdown with the mysterious yeti -- known to some as the abominable snowman.
Expedition EVEREST will be located in the Asia section of the theme park. At nearly 200 feet high, it will be the tallest mountain in Florida.
.....and i think someone asked about a pic of the track layout:
thats the origional imagineer model.. no telling if things have changed since this one though.. it at least gives you the overall idea.
hope that helps.
-alex
DisneyFan 2000
Well-Known Member
^^ Looks great!! Thanks for sharing!!!
daniam2188
Member
didnt cypress gardens close?
imagineersrock
New Member
lol yeah i remember that.. and now its readily available at any theme park fanatics website..!
ogryn
Well-Known Member
E:E Is Vertical 
http://www.screamscape.com/assets/images/db_images/db_Everest_2004_0210_02_Supports_w1.jpg
From Screamscape.
http://www.screamscape.com/assets/images/db_images/db_Everest_2004_0210_02_Supports_w1.jpg
From Screamscape.
Does anyone know if the track will first be installed and then the mountain built around it or will most of the mountain structure be built first and then the track added to that? In other words, will they need a lot of supports like those currently being installed or will we need to see some actual mountain construction before we see a lot of track being placed down?
DMC-12
It's HarmonioUS, NOT HarmoniYOU.
Originally posted by ogryn
E:E Is Vertical
http://www.screamscape.com/assets/images/db_images/db_Everest_2004_0210_02_Supports_w1.jpg
From Screamscape.
Very Cool! :sohappy: :sohappy:
I've been on almost 500 different coasters around the world on three different continents. Reading this comment however I really have to ask which type of crack you're smoking man? Unicorn is a family coaster, and it's a very smooth family coaster at that? Do you think it's rough "just because" it's Vekoma? Are you the typical coaster enthusiat who isn't happy with anything but B&M or Intamin? I got news for you - there are Intamins out there rougher than any Vekoma you can find, period. Flashback at Six Flags Magic Mountain... Batman: The Escape at Six Flags Astroworld, and want one closer to heart? Indiana Jones et le Temple du Peril at Disneyland Paris.
Is goofy's barnstormer too rough for you too?
B&M has some great coasters, and a lot of coasters that feel exactly the same. The newer Intamin stuff is pretty good, but their old stuff is satanistic and awful. And for what it's worth, two of my top five coasters are Vekoma, including my #1.
That's actually not true. Originally they were going to go with Premier Rides - who designed the first indoor magnetic launched coasters - the Outer Limits: Flight of Fear at Paramount's Kings Island and Kings Dominion, in Ohio and Virginia respectively.
Basicly, what it came down to is this:
WDI: "hey"
Premier: "hey"
WDI: "we like your ride"
Premier: "cool, thanks"
WDI: "so um, can you make us one?"
Premier: "ok"
WDI: "cool, but can you make it smooth so everyone can ride it?"
Premier: "hahahahhahahhaha"
Premier: "wait, you were serious"
Premier: "no"
WDI: "vekoma, you built us five coasters so far, can you make a ride like premier that is smooth?"
Vekoma: "yah we like your money, we are from holland"
Anyway, I'm obviously joking with the qoutes, but that is pretty much how it went down. Disney wanted a launched, indoor looping coaster. Til that point, the only ones in existence were designed by Premier Rides. Neat rides, but very poorly designed track tranisitions and even worse designed trains. Disney wanted one of those - in concept, but not in practice. After riding the Flight of Fear they knew that was nothing their park guests would want, and since Premier pretty much said "this is how our rides are" Disney turned to Vekoma, who had already designed 5 other coasters for them at the time, including one launched, indoor tripple looper for Disneyland Paris and said we want one, LSM launched, can you do it? They helped with the cost of R&D and what came out of it was a good deal for both companies, because Disney got the type of ride they wanted, and Vekoma got a new type of coaster to market at very little R&D cost to them to get it off the ground.
ogryn
Well-Known Member
Nice post. I guess I've been spoilt by B&M restraints. You could sleep in their flyer seats.
I agree about Intamin's Indy coaster, but Colossus (10 inversion) was very nice (they've changed the restraints now so I can't comment anymore).
Out of the 5 Vekoma's with inversions I've ridden (it only seems to be the ones with OTSR's that hurt me), I've come off three a bit battered (DLP's SM, Goudrix @ Parc Astrix, Corkscrew at Alton Towers). Both the R'n'RC's were nice, but I may change my mind in 5 years time.
But I can only say three coasters have actually hurt me:
SM @ DLP
Goudrix
Gwazi
I agree about Intamin's Indy coaster, but Colossus (10 inversion) was very nice (they've changed the restraints now so I can't comment anymore).
Out of the 5 Vekoma's with inversions I've ridden (it only seems to be the ones with OTSR's that hurt me), I've come off three a bit battered (DLP's SM, Goudrix @ Parc Astrix, Corkscrew at Alton Towers). Both the R'n'RC's were nice, but I may change my mind in 5 years time.
But I can only say three coasters have actually hurt me:
SM @ DLP
Goudrix
Gwazi
This is one statement I absolutely disagree with. I loate B&M flyer restraints. Vekoma flyer restraints are unpleasant, but B&M flyer restraints are unbearable. It's the one thing that overall, Vekoma got right over B&M. I absolutely could not believe how claustrophobic B&M's flying coaster restraints are. I find the flying position a generally uncomfortable ride to begin with - doable, but defiantely uncomfortable. The last thing I want is to be slammed in so tight that I can't breathe and on the verge of a claustrophobia attack - which Six Flags Over Georgia's Superman nearly did to me. Six Flags Great Americas, the newer designed train, is a bit of an improvement. The seats are wider and the restraints aren't quite as tight, so it didn't bother me nearly as much - but the Georgia one I found to be very bad. I'd assume it's the same as AIR - they opened within a month of eachother.
Again, the statement was made that Intamins newer products are a lot more comfortable and seemingly better designed. It's the older stuff that is awful. Colossus opened in 2002.
It's been my finding in the dozens of Vekoma coasters I've experienced that it's typicly the production model clones that are less desirable, and the custom models usually run pretty well. I for the most part enjoyed Ninja at Six Flags Over Georgia, and Ninja at Six Flags St. Louis. On the other hand, you couldn't get me on a Boomerang or Suspended Looping Coaster (unless I haven't ridden it and need to just add it to my track record). The Rock 'n' Roller Coasters, as well as Space Mountain are all amazing. I have not yet done Goudurix; that will be this summer. In the case of Alton's Corkscrew, that's again one of their production model coasters.
I find it interesting that you say you may change your mind about Rock 'n' Roller Coaster in five years, since this summer is the ride's 5th anniversary.
I didn't in the least bit have a problem with Space Mountain at Disneyland Resort Paris. In fact, one ride and it was instantly my #1 coaster out of 483. It really, really blew me away. It's a bit jerky, but it's not nearly what I'd call rough, personally. My friend hated it - but I've just been on rides that are SO much worse - I really didn't think it was over the line of "too rough." Some rides are better a little rough, it gives them character. I don't enjoy rough rides - so my liking Space Mountain does not mean it is actually rough and I don't mind. There are plenty of coasters out there that I would never, ever ride a second time because they are so bad. I absolutely could not get enough of Space Mountain. The layout is brilliant - it's intense, it really maintains its speed; the launch is great, the inversions are very well timed in the layout, and there's lots of surprises and fantasticly steep twisted drops hidden in there when you'd least expect it.
Lee
Adventurer
Yep...
Premier was the first company contacted about RnRC. Thank god that didn't work out. Flight of Pain is nothing compared to what Vekoma came up with.
Also true that B&M were not considered for RnRC. They don't do that type of ride. It is also true that WDI has talked with B&M in the pase, but were unable get it together.
As I've said before, it's not the track that makes Vekoma's rough, it's the wheel sets. The new bogies and wheels they are introducing should solve many problems. That goes for Space at DLP and even older SLCs.
Not all B&Ms are smooth. Scream! felt like it was running on square wheels. But hey, at least it's not a Togo. If you want to risk serious spinal injury, ride Manhurtin Express.
Let's see, what else...
I love B&Ms flyer restraints. They are much more secure feeling, compared to Vekoma's which make you feel like you're gonna fall on your face. However, I am looking forward to what Vekoma is doing for Everest. I understand that the lap bars are going to be similar to Intamin's on Xcelerator, Millie, etc.
Premier was the first company contacted about RnRC. Thank god that didn't work out. Flight of Pain is nothing compared to what Vekoma came up with.
Also true that B&M were not considered for RnRC. They don't do that type of ride. It is also true that WDI has talked with B&M in the pase, but were unable get it together.
As I've said before, it's not the track that makes Vekoma's rough, it's the wheel sets. The new bogies and wheels they are introducing should solve many problems. That goes for Space at DLP and even older SLCs.
Not all B&Ms are smooth. Scream! felt like it was running on square wheels. But hey, at least it's not a Togo. If you want to risk serious spinal injury, ride Manhurtin Express.
Let's see, what else...
I love B&Ms flyer restraints. They are much more secure feeling, compared to Vekoma's which make you feel like you're gonna fall on your face. However, I am looking forward to what Vekoma is doing for Everest. I understand that the lap bars are going to be similar to Intamin's on Xcelerator, Millie, etc.