"Escape from Tomorrow" guerilla film shot inside WDW

[GrumpyFan]

I agree.

The only reason to address it would be to deter other professional filmmakers. But it sounds like no future film could be as detrimental to the company's image than this one (this film appears to demonstrate the reason why they don't allow unauthorized commercial projects) Plus, no other professional would want to be viewed as a copycat within the film community for repeating what has already been done.

As for deterring amateur filmmakers, that's why they banned that urban explorer guy for life.

Perhaps no professionals would attempt it, but amateurs looking to make a name for themselves might try and copy the style.
The story sounds very dark and depressing and not really something I would care to watch, but the techniques and style by which they filmed this are pretty impressive.
I have to wonder how security at the parks view this and some of the "urban explorer" incidents of late. Will we see changes at the parks in the form of more security to prevent these kinds of things? Maybe Disney should look into acquiring the technology that Tony Stark used in Iron Man 2 where he disabled all of the press' cameras. Wait, wouldn't they already own it?

 

[GrumpyFan]

Here's a short interview by the Director, Randy Moore, with a few more details and clips. (Warning, contains consumption of live octopus):


Based on his comments, I have to wonder if there was a secret funding source to help get it made. Sounds like it went from a small (side/hobby) project to an actual titled film.

 

[mikeymouse]

What if someone came into your home and started filming things without your permission. You'd be pretty irrate, huh? Some of the posts on this thread are outrageous ... discuss the movie, not the definition of pervert. Get a life.

 

[prfctlyximprct]

I'm interested in seeing if this turns out looking like a real film and not the wdw episodes of Roseanne.

Hey I love those episodes! Darlene and Pooh Bear..

I really wanna see this film.

 

[fillerup]

So much for the legendary WDW security. You know, undercover CMs in flowered shirts who have been trained in behavioral psychology, face recognition software, a gazillion property wide cameras being monitored 24/7, etc etc...

 

[Rivers Rowe]

Nowhere on Disney ticket media does it state an independent filmmaker has the right to film me or my family on Disney property. Especially in a film with such disturbing subject matter. Who is to say the people in the film just on vacation don't get a lawyer and sue?

 

[MickeyPeace]

Would be funny if Lou Mongello was filming in the background of one of the scenes.

 

[SeaCastle]

Not sure if it was posted here yet, but the New Yorker had an interesting piece about this film, discussing how it would probably fall within the realm (no pun intended) of fair use.

I might be biased because I happen to love film (particularly that of the cult), but despite the intellectual property implications, it should be noted that this is an art work, and in my opinion this is a screenwriter who wants to make a statement rather than turn a profit. Like it was said here before, the only really bad PR that Disney would get would be by throwing a hissy-fit over the film. After all, who would be the potential audience of Escape from Tomorrow? I would wager a guess that it wouldn't be Disney's target demographic. I do really hope that the film is released; the premise and production are certainly intriguing and I wonder how the rest of the film is.

What I would be worried about is that now that this film is out, will Disney be cracking down on photography/videography so as to present copycats?

 

[NewfieFan]

Nowhere on Disney ticket media does it state an independent filmmaker has the right to film me or my family on Disney property. Especially in a film with such disturbing subject matter. Who is to say the people in the film just on vacation don't get a lawyer and sue?

See that's the difference between Canadians and Americans, y'all are worried about being in film and then talking about suing and stuff... whereas we would be all like, "Look ma, I'm in a crazy independant movie!"



As for the disturbing subject matter... yeah, it's disturbing but how is that a reflection on you or your family if you somehow ended up in the background of one of the scenes!?!

I'm just fascinated with this whole thing. Not sure if I would want to see the movie... some reviews have me questioning if it would mess with the pixie dust I snort on occasion. But the way he filmed it - amazing!

 

[unkadug]

Nowhere on Disney ticket media does it state an independent filmmaker has the right to film me or my family on Disney property. Especially in a film with such disturbing subject matter. Who is to say the people in the film just on vacation don't get a lawyer and sue?

There is no expectation of privacy in a public place such as WDW. Anybody trying to sue would be laughed out of court.

 

[George]

There is no expectation of privacy in a public place such as WDW. Anybody trying to sue would be laughed out of court.

But what if I have audible gas, pick my noise, and have a wet spot from a slight urination issue earlier in the day? Of course, I would hope that the director would edit me out since that would probably be enough background ambiance to qualify as a distraction.

 

[Pixiedustmaker]

What I would be worried about is that now that this film is out, will Disney be cracking down on photography/videography so as to present copycats?

I think that would be impossible, unless they want to tick-off the hordes of families with video-recorders and cameras that can also shoot video. Just because a film is shot on Disney property (interesting to all of us), doesn't mean that the film will make money.

I bet Disney doesn't do anything, if they do it will just draw unwanted attention and make people feel that the film reveals something sinister that Disney must stop at all costs. Remember, they've got their own film set in the park to do, and they don't want this junk coming up again when that film comes out.

 

[Pixiedustmaker]

There is no expectation of privacy in a public place such as WDW. Anybody trying to sue would be laughed out of court.

Doubtlessly, if you frequent the parks, you are probably in hundreds, if not thousands, of home videos and pictures in the homes of strangers.

 

[George]

Doubtlessly, if you frequent the parks, you are probably in hundreds, if not thousands, of home videos and pictures in the homes of strangers.

Which is why I've started to tirelessly hunt down anyone whom I think overlapped with my vacation and demand to see all their videos and photos.

 

[Nemo14]

Which is why I've started to tirelessly hunt down anyone whom I think overlapped with my vacation and demand to see all their videos and photos.

*photobombs you*

 

[Lee]

There is no expectation of privacy in a public place such as WDW. Anybody trying to sue would be laughed out of court.

Not sure...
Isn't there supposed to be a sign or something to warn guests of such things. Something like...

NOTICE OF FILMING
This area is being used to photograph and record video and film footage in connection with ________ for the television program "________." By your presence in this area, you acknowledge that you have been informed that you may be recorded as part of the release in theatrical, broadcast television, home video and/or any and all media now known or hereafter devised, in perpetuity, throughout the known universe and the advertising and publicity thereof. Further, by your presence in this area, you grant your permission for your likeness and voice to be included therein without compensation, credit or other consideration. If you do not wish to be photographed, recorded or otherwise appear under these conditions, you should leave the area immediately. Thank you for your cooperation.

As was discussed in the other thread, there are lots of issues at play in this case.
- Filming on private property without permission.
- Filming without a permit.
- Filming inside of copyrighted attractions, and showing copyrighted characters.
- Filming inside MK and Epcot in which practically everything but the trees are copyrighted.
- Filming guests without permission or a signed release.

Lots of possible problems that Disney could use to block the film.
Not saying they surely will...but they could.

 

[unkadug]

Not sure...
Isn't there supposed to be a sign or something to warn guests of such things. Something like...


As was discussed in the other thread, there are lots of issues at play in this case.
- Filming on private property without permission.
- Filming without a permit.
- Filming inside of copyrighted attractions, and showing copyrighted characters.
- Filming inside MK and Epcot in which practically everything but the trees are copyrighted.
- Filming guests without permission or a signed release.

Lots of possible problems that Disney could use to block the film.
Not saying they surely will...but they could.

I agree that Disney could do something, just not any individuals that happened to get caught on camera. My point was there is no breach of individuals rights.

 

[Lee]

Doubtlessly, if you frequent the parks, you are probably in hundreds, if not thousands, of home videos and pictures in the homes of strangers.

Which is fine, since they aren't being released commercially.

 

[Rivers Rowe]

There is no expectation of privacy in a public place such as WDW. Anybody trying to sue would be laughed out of court.

Where does it say I can be filmed in a independent film, a disturbing one or not, that could generate income on Disney property? Don't extras sign away their rights in films for all possible future revenue that could be generated for whatever their compensation may be?

 

[unkadug]

Where does it say I can be filmed in a independent film, a disturbing one or not, that could generate income on Disney property? Don't extras sign away their rights in films for all possible future revenue that could be generated for whatever their compensation may be?

This is the way I understand it.

You are out in public...there is no expectation of privacy unless you were in a restroom, dressing area or a phone booth (or to some degree... inside your automobile.) By walking outside you give up your right of expectation of privacy.