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News EPCOT's Harmonious to be replaced with new nighttime spectacular Luminous
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SpectroMickey85
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Any idea how much notice, if any, we may get before these song swaps take place?
TTA94
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If HEA wasn’t so popular we’d probably get that. A “temporary” return could always happen. Unlikely I know.
As good as DE is/was, it couldn't break through HEA's Power MK has a lot of work to do when HEA's Farewell is tried again.
Surfin' Tuna
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Unfortunately, "good" is often measured by boom, bang, flash, pretty, and lots of energy/stuff happening. With regard to story and pacing, DE was actually pretty good. It was in some ways closer to what Disney used to do so well. I didn't love it, but I could respect what it was and what it was trying to do. HEA as a show really does a great job of grabbing attention and holding it - even if you're never sure whether to look at the sky or the castle. If we see Wishes again one day in a different format, I think it could win the hearts of a new generation. Like Martin says, it would just need some newer tech. Just imagine if that were to happen. Would Disney have the courage to endure the negative social media posts that would complain and lament the loss of HEA while people adjust?
Disone
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I'm not sure about all this talk about going back to wishes with new technology. Wishes had a good run. It was light years ahead of fantasy in the sky when it came out but it got a little long in the tooth and quite honestly it copied the Fantasmic storyline right down to the magic mirror introducing the villains. If the company was still cleaning on to wishes we would never have happily ever after.
I was ready for something new. I'm glad it's here. Now in 5 years I'm probably going to be ready for yet another something new but for now I'm happy to keep happily ever after.
I think you mean ”clinging”, but that would be preferable. But that’s just me.
Disone
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I did mean clinging... yes. I definitely don't think it's just you. That said for me, I prefer happily ever after. I never liked the pacing of wishes. It was like watching five firework shows each with a beginning narration of Jiminy cricket ending with its own little finale and then a complete stop before the next narration would start. I know many loved that. I never did. Also I remember a friend of mine who was a passionate Disney fan, and even he had to admit towards the end of its run that he found himself with people who wanted to see the fireworks and he found he was "actively uninterested" in wishes. This from the same person who cried inconsolably upon his fierce viewing of World of color. Could not contain his emotions. He's definitely a Disney geek. But!!!! he also doesn't love happily ever after. It's just ok to him. Better than wishes but only because it's newer. So.... No you're not alone.
My 'happily ever after' would be no more shows like HARModious and HEA. Ever. But that's just me. Looking forward to seeing Luminous for the first time soon, though, if everything works out. 
SoFloMagic
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I'm shocked we haven't seen it behind a pay wall yet. Imagine a classic Disney after hours series. Throw a few retro characters on the gazebo float and call it a cavalcade, show wishes, dj plays retro music, charge 1990 prices for snacks and ice cream, show wishes. $250 a ticket. I bet they could sell out 20 of rhem
GhostHost1000
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Surfin' Tuna
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This would really make it 10 times better for sure. It is mostly a nice show, but there is something lacking/wrong with the barges bunched up in the middle.
HEA 2023 was the right decision!!!! Now, let's get Starlight done and Open!
Disgruntled Walt
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Not just you! At least 50 others besides you and me! Wishes was the winner of the GNSOAT poll (Greatest Nighttime Spectacular of All-Time) I conducted, but it wasn't exactly scientific in its methodology.
Surfin' Tuna
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The problem with Starlight is the already happened budget cuts to some pieces that probably shouldn't have been cut. On one hand, you think they'd learn. On the other hand, we have been starving for so long anything will be a hit.
Disone
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Hummmmm I worry for you as Luminous is, IMO, sort of cut from the same cloth Harmonious and HEA. It doesn't have any type of screens or projections but aside from that, it's definitely a clip show.My 'happily ever after' would be no more shows like HARModious and HEA. Ever. But that's just me. Looking forward to seeing Luminous for the first time soon, though, if everything works out.
PuertoRekinSam
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I keep seeing people want drones at Epcot. This would not work well.
Drones work really well at DLP because there is a large optimal viewing direction towards the castle, with the drones behind it.
Drones did okay at Disney Springs because generally you had an okay viewing angle from where they funneled the Guest, but if you were too close to edge by Drawn to Life, or over on the market place side you lose what the drones are doing.
Epcot would not work because the Guest are in a theater in the round setting. Remember the issues with the central stargate of Harmonious? This would be similar with drones. Unless you only do basic geometric shapes, it’s not going to look right. The only other option would be to have the drones on the outside of the park with the fireworks in the lagoon. But this would require a whole heck of a lot of more additional drones to not just be random pixels. And you will still have the issue of a dead spot on the future world side am(assuming Disney won’t fly them over Guest).
Or… they could actually use some of those drone puppets they got a patent on a while back.
Disney explores ditching puppets and fireworks for drone-powered displays
A patent application outlines how Disney’s theme parks could swap traditional displays for drone aerial light displays and animated puppets. By Samuel Gibbs
www.theguardian.com
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Starship824
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Yeah... You're not going to like Luminous then.My 'happily ever after' would be no more shows like HARModious and HEA. Ever. But that's just me. Looking forward to seeing Luminous for the first time soon, though, if everything works out.