Disone
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They really need to tweak that so that Walt's "Welcome" can be better heard.
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News EPCOT's Harmonious to be replaced with new nighttime spectacular Luminous
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Is it really softer that the other Welcomes?
UNCgolf
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My only real complaint is the music, which isn't very good. It's not bad -- it's just kind of bland and generic.
I'd prefer no IP too but that was never going to happen.
Animaniac93-98
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The opening and closing of the show is proof that Disney could produce a wholly original show if they wanted to.
The IP medley that makes up the middle, feels like a concession to upper management and where the pacing and blending of the songs becomes choppy.
It would be interesting to see an alternative version where the movie songs were replaced with EPCOT specific music.
The IP medley that makes up the middle, feels like a concession to upper management and where the pacing and blending of the songs becomes choppy.
It would be interesting to see an alternative version where the movie songs were replaced with EPCOT specific music.
TheEPCOTHistorian
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This. The only improvement I felt was the mariachi cover of Proud Corazon/EPCOT Anthem.
The original version of So Close is so good that it's kind of hard to top it, so I kind of expected that one.
Remember that the creatives are only doing what they have been briefed to do, and that brief was to include IP.
Disone
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So EPCOT Forever sans Whole New World in the middle?
No thank you.
I could get behind maybe a new version of One Little Spark replacing "You Got a Friend Like Me" piece. But even that part in growing on me. It's actually quite short but has some really good pow in the fireworks design. So it kind of delivers the goods and gets rewarded with some mid show applause from the crowd.
Disone
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No. But the fireworks are louder and they drown it out.
UNCgolf
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I'm not a big fan of their use of covers in general -- people typically want to hear the version they know; not a new, alternate rendition -- but I know it's sometimes unavoidable when doing medleys etc. as part of shows.
I don't think the two original songs are good either, though. They're just generic pop.
UNCgolf
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I don't think he meant EPCOT Forever style -- I think he meant new original music.
Animaniac93-98
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New original music, or new arrangements of songs written for EPCOT. Not necessarily how they were done in Forever.
Yep, Thanks!
Disney Analyst
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I agree that the play section is actually quite good, I think people immediately turned the nose up at it, but frankly it's a quick section, the musical arrangement takes you almost until the midway point until you realize it's "You've Got a Friend in Me", and then "Friend Like Me" is super brief, and the pyro design is fun!
I've watched various videos, over various nights, and that section seems to illicit a pretty loud audience response.
Disone
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I considered that but he still said EPCOT specific music and it doesn't get any more EPCOT specific than Veggie Fruit Fruit, Tomorrow's Child, It's Fun to be Free, Universe of Energy, Imagination....
I do love the inclusion of Toprak's new EPCOT music through out Luminous.
Ok maybe I can be swayed
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TheEPCOTHistorian
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The fact that royalties contribute to the constant use of covers rather than the original is slightly infuriating.
SoFloMagic
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I think it does an ok job holding back a few elements - notably the two elements Steve wrote the post about. The big early giveaway is the perimeter shots. Maybe they should have used the b-mode shots from the barges at the intro and saved the perims for a little extra in the finale?
But certainly a better job hiding tricks that harm. Giving away the trick that the arms shoot fireworks in the first act was a joke.
Disney Analyst
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Personally I think the perimeters are such a well known Epcot staple at this point, them being early in the show doesn’t make much difference.
This is probably one of the best shows in a while for keeping elements hidden until the end of the show. And as it’s pretty much a traditional fireworks show for a change, I think what they keep until the end works.
This is probably one of the best shows in a while for keeping elements hidden until the end of the show. And as it’s pretty much a traditional fireworks show for a change, I think what they keep until the end works.
doctornick
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I think the choppiness is more due to the narration than an intrinsic issue with the songs.
Great minds and all that
Disone
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Luminous also has those weird fleet of helicopter like fireworks that are used for a brief moment at the beginning of You'll be in my Heart. I don't know why they use them right there. But they're neat.