Have they ever been fast...say an attraction open in year or less after release?
The only ones that come to mind were Bug's Life which was for a new park, and The Lion King with the Legend of the Lion King show.
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Epcot rumor per Jim Hill...
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The only ones that come to mind were Bug's Life which was for a new park, and The Lion King with the Legend of the Lion King show.
Coaster Lover
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The Muppets Present An American Adventure?
stretchsje
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Coco is an unproven IP. There's no way they'd do a full gutting for it. Plus, part of this rumor is the 2017 timeline.
I'd say a mild overlay. New signs. New projections, new music.
True, but it does not look like they will be doing anything more than having a few meetings and sketching some ideas on cocktail napkins until the movie comes out. One would have to think that the idea phase would include everything from just having Coco pop up in the background to a full on gutting.
stretchsje
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The movie is scheduled to be released November 2017. The rumor says the new attraction will open fall of 2017. In other words, (finally) an attraction opening in conjunction with the movie it is based upon. They won't be able to wait and see how the movie does. Like Marni says, this is probably a low-budget, low-risk overlay... if anything. They can't do worse than Three Caballeros. That said, I do like those new AA's they just installed at the end of GFT and hope for an equally impressive final scene.
slappy magoo
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I'm sure they sketch out ideas for rides or attractions based on every movie in production, in development or even loose threads for movies being bandied about as kinda neat ideas. I'm sure somewhere in the vault is a Good Dinosaur overlay for Universe of Energy no one will ever see. I'd bet somebody a dollar Inside Out was conceived in part because of the Cranium Command attraction in Wonders of Life and throughout development there was talk that WoL could be resurrected with an Inside Out theme; THAT one I wouldn't be surprised if it happens. Some suit probably wondered how much more money they'd have to give to Johnny Depp for the Mad Hatter to be the spokesperson for Journey Into Imagination before the last movie tanked. And any movie developed that takes place in any country not the USA, the question gets asked "how could we exploit this in World Showcase?" It'd be foolish not to at least brainstorm some ideas. But that doesn't mean anything will come of any idea, especially if it means WDW will have to spend money versus get a sponsor to swallow the cost.
Prototype82
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They ruined it 9 years ago...
JohnD
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Anyone notice that the conversation is veering toward the premise of inserting IPs into WS? What happened to the consternation over GOTG in FW where that IP didn't fit the theme? I'm conflicted. On the one hand, FW needs some love especially Energy and Imagination. I don't really know what is the best thing there. On the other hand, I want WS to be more about the countries than IPs. I didn't mind character M&Gs so much and Three Callaberos is so old, I never really thought of it as an IP. But once Frozen was put in, the precedent was really set. Now it's all about what is the best IP to shoehorn into a specific country pavilion. Sigh. . .
Armchair Imagineering is boring enough, but man if I hear "rat ride in France pavilion" one more time, Im gonna puke out of my eyeballs. Not saying it wouldnt fit , but people keep regurgitating it as if it hast been brought up a million times, despite that its been said by "top men" (oh Marni, I miss you..) that its not on the table
DisneyDebRob
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How about no more rides in WS? It's tough enough to walk around there anymore without lines for rides stretching 2 or 3 countries. I am all for a full blown Epcot redo on most of the front of the park but leave showcase alone, except if adding another country or two. Just my opinion.
slappy magoo
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Makes all the sense in the world in theory. It's why most supermarkets stock the bread in the milk on opposite ends of their real estate.
But Epcot is so huge, and World Showcase has so few options to navigate around it - pretty much go this way or that way versus the hub-and-spoke model of MK - that a family with small kids trying to get from one section of WS to the other for those e-ticket-ish rides will be too exhausted to enjoy the rest of the park. There's something to be said of trying develop one section of the park and then enhance that section land-by-land. Or maybe enhance Mexico post-Norway, then jump over to Canada & UK, then bounce back and forth until you get to American Adventure in the middle. Or enhance the entire "left" side of the park first - both Future World AND World Showcase, whatever needs doing on that half - then move over to the "right" side.
lentesta
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Thanks @stretchsje! Sorry about the audio. I think I have that corrected.
If I understand Jim correctly, I believe there are 2 attractions in the planning stages for World Showcase. At least one is a ride. One is supposedly being built for WDW's 50th.
Disney has classically conditioned the average guest in a near Pavlovian style to salivate at the idea of any IP based attraction. They are quite genius with it too. A few projection face AA's, a couple of screens, familiar songs and a small press release with exaggerated artist conception and buzz words is all that is needed to get the mouth breathers drooling.
A story line that makes sense is not needed nor is any real effort in creativity required. Give them EXACTLY what they ask for and they will defend the mediocrity.
And you would welcome this? Not that it could be any worse than 3 Cabellaros , but its not exactly that much better. If a running back just runs left and right, he isnt exactly getting closer to the end zone.
PizzaPlanet
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What a shame, they just plussed the three caballeros. 
I don't see the American Adventure changing. That and Spaceship Earth are pretty much the only two timeless attractions there. I don't know much about Coco other than it involves the Day of the Dead which is already part of the ride to begin with. I wouldn't mind seeing a more cohesive story line and if the movie is a hit that's awesome. Yes, it would make sense to develop the other side of the park but if we are reusing existing space first this does make sense.
I'm ok with appropriate IPs int he world showcase if it means attractions. At this point my trips to Epcot are not usually much time in the WS. There is only so many times you can stand and watch the same movie. Most of the time I do a drive by trip around the world attempting to avoid belligerent drunks. I do support adding Remy to France, having seen Impressions of France last year, not much to miss there, MHO. I do think the UK should get a ride but it might be best to hold off until we know if the UK is still going to be the UK. I really like the idea of a 101 dalmatians ride. Definitely a popular and time tested property especially since the other English properties are used elsewhere. I also think a Mulan thing in China would be awesome.
I'm ok with appropriate IPs int he world showcase if it means attractions. At this point my trips to Epcot are not usually much time in the WS. There is only so many times you can stand and watch the same movie. Most of the time I do a drive by trip around the world attempting to avoid belligerent drunks. I do support adding Remy to France, having seen Impressions of France last year, not much to miss there, MHO. I do think the UK should get a ride but it might be best to hold off until we know if the UK is still going to be the UK. I really like the idea of a 101 dalmatians ride. Definitely a popular and time tested property especially since the other English properties are used elsewhere. I also think a Mulan thing in China would be awesome.
ToTBellHop
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By putting in extremely old AAs. It was hardly a huge investment. If anything, it was absurd how long those old AAs sat in storage.What a shame, they just plussed the three caballeros.
bunnyman
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Hmm, lucky they didn't pre-plan a Good Dinosaur or BFG ride!
No Name
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A new ride in World Showcase based off of a studio IP? Well, it'd lead the park further down the wrong path, but at least it'd be an addition. It wouldn't replace anything. So while I might not like it, it wouldn't be as easy for me to complain, because it'd be an addition.
Changing the Mexico boat ride to be based off of a new studio IP? Likely decreasing its relevance to Mexico? And creating a problem of more demand than the ride's capacity can handle? That's something Disney would totally do, because they did it next door.
For me, saddest part about Frozenstrom is that, while the ride itself is good, it appears they did not learn from their big mistake.
Changing the Mexico boat ride to be based off of a new studio IP? Likely decreasing its relevance to Mexico? And creating a problem of more demand than the ride's capacity can handle? That's something Disney would totally do, because they did it next door.
For me, saddest part about Frozenstrom is that, while the ride itself is good, it appears they did not learn from their big mistake.