Encanto Projection coming to "it's a small world" façade April 11th

Phroobar

Phroobar

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Disney Analyst said:
It's like art is subjective, and no one on either side can really make any definitive statements whether a piece of work is mediocre or the greatest ever created.

What we do know is Encanto is a smash hit, insanely popular, and has one of the biggest songs from Disney since 'A Whole New World'.
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Parteecia

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Disney Analyst said:
It's like art is subjective, and no one on either side can really make any definitive statements whether a piece of work is mediocre or the greatest ever created.

What we do know is Encanto is a smash hit, insanely popular, and has one of the biggest songs from Disney since 'A Whole New World'.
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And an Oscar, BAFTA, Annie, Producers Guild, NAACP and other awards and noms.

And 91% on Rotten Tomatoes.
 
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No Name

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Phroobar said:
That doesn't mean it's not mediocre. It seems like today we strive for mediocrity. It's colorful but I found the songs annoying and how the ordinary one is shunned and made a slave to the other superheros. What is with the character that looks like she was doping on testosterone and steroids?

Turning Red was pretty mediocre too compared to other Pixar movies.
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What it means is your opinion on it is different from most peoples’. And that’s fine, but it sounded like you were against Disney catering to the majority of their customers because you personally didn’t love it.

And btw, that character’s special power is strength which is why she looks like that. Not sure what is confusing about that.
 
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mickEblu

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Dear Prudence said:
What Encanto got right, it really nailed, and what it didn't get right, it straight up floundered. I growing increasingly uncomfortable with with way non-Latine people have latched onto it and giving us their "analysis" about stuff in the film they didn't understand, so now they're just straight up inventing.

I'd honestly love some more Colombia in IASW. I LOVE that the Brazil section of IASW has Afro-Brazilians. One of the things that Encanto did really, really RIGHT was the diversity of not only Colombia, but of Colombia families, and would be nice to have them in the actual attraction.
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What did the movie get wrong in your opinion?
 
waltography

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Dear Prudence said:
I liked Encanto way more than Aladdin 👀
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Forgive me for going on a tangent for a bit, but I will say that each iteration of Aladdin improved upon the original for me music-wise (we're ignoring the live-action film).

The DCA stage show had a wonderful ballad for Jasmine called "To Be Free" that's perhaps my favorite Aladdin song; it was originally supposed to be a ballad for Genie in but was eventually cut and used in instrumental form for the movie.



Then the Broadway musical did a lot of even more fun stuff with the music and reintroduced "Proud of Your Boy," which is my second favorite Aladdin song and also was meant for the movie before being cut.

 
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Dear Prudence

Dear Prudence

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waltography said:
Forgive me for going on a tangent for a bit, but I will say that each iteration of Aladdin improved upon the original for me music-wise (we're ignoring the live-action film).

The DCA stage show had a wonderful ballad for Jasmine called "To Be Free" that's perhaps my favorite Aladdin song; it was originally supposed to be a ballad for Genie in but was eventually cut and used in instrumental form for the movie.



Then the Broadway musical did a lot of even more fun stuff with the music and reintroduced "Proud of Your Boy," which is my second favorite Aladdin song and also was meant for the movie before being cut.

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1000% agreed. Proud of Your Boy would have MADE the original movie IMO. Less lying and manic improv, and more emotional development. I miss the DCA show, honestly.
 
Phroobar

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Parteecia said:
And an Oscar, BAFTA, Annie, Producers Guild, NAACP and other awards and noms.

And 91% on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Best animated Oscar always goes to Disney/Pixar. They pay the most to the academy members to get the most votes. Besides two where Disney, one was Pixar, one for Sony and one independent. The independent is never going to win best animated feature and The Mitchells vs the Machines while a great movie will never ever win since it is exceedly stupid. So Disney had three nominees and none of them were very good.

If the academy members had any guts they would have voted Flee as best animated picture. It seems like they would eat it up.

An animated documentary telling the true story about a man's need to confront his past in order to truly have a future. Amin arrived as an unaccompanied minor in Denmark from Afghanistan. Today, at 36, he is a successful academic and is getting married to his long-time boyfriend. A secret he has been hiding for over 20 years threatens to ruin the life he has built for himself. For the first time, he is sharing his story with his close friend.
 
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Parteecia

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Phroobar said:
Best animated Oscar always goes to Disney/Pixar. They pay the most to the academy members to get the most votes. Besides two where Disney, one was Pixar, one for Sony and one independent. The independent is never going to win best animated feature and The Mitchells vs the Machines while a great movie will never ever win since it is exceedly stupid. So Disney had three nominees and none of them were very good.

If the academy members had any guts they would have voted Flee as best animated picture. It seems like they would eat it up.

An animated documentary telling the true story about a man's need to confront his past in order to truly have a future. Amin arrived as an unaccompanied minor in Denmark from Afghanistan. Today, at 36, he is a successful academic and is getting married to his long-time boyfriend. A secret he has been hiding for over 20 years threatens to ruin the life he has built for himself. For the first time, he is sharing his story with his close friend.
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And the other awards and critical rating?
 
HigitusFigitus!

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Wow, I didn't know some folks didn't like Encanto. I thought it was soo good, Disney is hit it out of the park! Gave me the feels I got with the Renaissance films.

My family is Colombian, have been there many times... I can honestly say there is no cheap imitation of Colombian music in this movie! Lin-Manuel Miranda and Germaine Franco really did their homework imbuing the movie with a wide variety of Colombian music. And the Carlos Vives song is a lovely tribute to the country.
 
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Parteecia

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Phroobar said:
Flee won 82 awards
www.imdb.com

Flugt - IMDb

Flugt Awards and Nominations
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Encanto won 32 awards
www.imdb.com

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Encanto Awards and Nominations
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And 98% on Rotten Tomatoes to Encanto's 91%. That doesn't make Encanto a bad movie. Not an either/or choice. They can both be good.

Personally they both affected me deeply but differently. Encanto stayed with me longer. It addressed escaping a similar historical violence and the repercussions. They both show survivor's guilt and the need to be perfect and self-sacrificing and hide secrets. Encanto shows how future generations suffer for it.

Mitchells vs the Machines, on the other hand ...
 
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TP2000

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egg said:
I can’t tell if you’re being serious.

The number of times Encanto has been watched in its first four months is comparable to that of a 1.3-billion-dollar movie. We Don’t Talk About Bruno was the #2 song on Spotify US. It’s very popular.
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Okay. But did they actually make $1.3 Billion off of Encanto?

I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how monthly streaming services for $8 per month per household replaces actual ticket sales of $15 per person at movie theaters. So a family of four can watch Encanto unlimited times in 2022 for $8, whereas that same family of four would have spent $60 to see Encanto once in a movie theater in 2019.

I'm no math whiz, and I'm not a hip movie executive with my pronouns in my Twitter bio, but it seems to me that Disney just lost out on $52 per American household by endlessly streaming Encanto to their TV for 8 bucks rather than making them pay 15 bucks per person to see it once in a real movie theater.

Realizing Hollywood is a for-profit business in a Capitalist society, how does this new $8 per month streaming business model work long term again? 🤔
 
HigitusFigitus!

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TP2000 said:
Okay. But did they actually make $1.3 Billion off of Encanto?

I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how monthly streaming services for $8 per month per household replaces actual ticket sales of $15 per person at movie theaters. So a family of four can watch Encanto unlimited times in 2022 for $8, whereas that same family of four would have spent $60 to see Encanto once in a movie theater in 2019.

I'm no math whiz, and I'm not a hip movie executive with my pronouns in my Twitter bio, but it seems to me that Disney just lost out on $52 per American household by endlessly streaming Encanto to their TV for 8 bucks rather than making them pay 15 bucks per person to see it once in a real movie theater.

Realizing Hollywood is a for-profit business in a Capitalist society, how does this new $8 per month streaming business model work long term again? 🤔
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I have nothing against the movie execs with their pronouns on twitter and such, but I was puzzled by this move as well! It's been similar with other movies, particularly Pixar's Luca and Turning Red, for which the company prioritized Disney+

From what I've read, throwing the movies into Disney+ is a move to shore up that product. The company has entered the streaming wars and wants to compete with the heavy hitters, especially Netflix, and that can sometimes mean losing revenue at the box office. It's been touted to investors as a big part of the future of the company, so that's also part of it. Also, Disney+ subscriptions plateaued once people started going out/traveling again, and was not meeting quotas set on pandemic-height-level expectations. So throwing the big hits in there gets more subscriptions and, hopefully, many of those keep the subscriptions because they enjoy the rest of the content/bought an annual subscription/forget to cancel.
 
truecoat

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Phroobar said:
Best animated Oscar always goes to Disney/Pixar. They pay the most to the academy members to get the most votes. Besides two where Disney, one was Pixar, one for Sony and one independent. The independent is never going to win best animated feature and The Mitchells vs the Machines while a great movie will never ever win since it is exceedly stupid. So Disney had three nominees and none of them were very good.

If the academy members had any guts they would have voted Flee as best animated picture. It seems like they would eat it up.

An animated documentary telling the true story about a man's need to confront his past in order to truly have a future. Amin arrived as an unaccompanied minor in Denmark from Afghanistan. Today, at 36, he is a successful academic and is getting married to his long-time boyfriend. A secret he has been hiding for over 20 years threatens to ruin the life he has built for himself. For the first time, he is sharing his story with his close friend.
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The first 10 years of the Oscar for Animation, Disney won only half.

2001-2009 Disney or Pixar won 5 of 10 Oscars.
2010-2019 Disney or Pixar won 8 of 10 Oscars. (How did Kubo not win in 2016?)
2020's they are 2 for 2
 
CaptainAmerica

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Dear Prudence said:
What Encanto got right, it really nailed, and what it didn't get right, it straight up floundered. I growing increasingly uncomfortable with with way non-Latine people have latched onto it and giving us their "analysis" about stuff in the film they didn't understand, so now they're just straight up inventing.
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This is neo-segregationism.
 

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