DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

Brer Panther

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Two questions:

1) Do you think Disney would be retheming Dinosaur to Indiana Jones if they didn't already have a similar Indiana Jones ride built years earlier? It's not exactly one of their most hyped-up franchises, like Frozen or Marvel.
 
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rle4lunch

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Brer Panther said:
Two questions:

1) Do you think Disney would be retheming Dinosaur to Indiana Jones if they didn't already have a similar Indiana Jones ride built years earlier? It's not exactly one of their most hyped-up franchises, like Frozen or Marvel.

2) What makes everyone so sure that the Indiana Jones retheme - which is being made by Iger's Disney, - will be as good as Disneyland's Indiana Jones ride - which was made before Iger?
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1. Probably not, but it's still a very viable and evergreen IP. It had/has/will have staying power as a story telling medium for spinoffs and countless more games. So, in that vein, I can totally understand why this was greenlit. And the fact that Dinosaur isn't that great of a ride (gasp), and WDW kinda gave up on it the last decade or so.

2. 30 years of technologic improvements to how attractions are built almost guarantee that this will be at or better than DL's. DL's version is great, but could definitely use a refresh. For years during covid and coming out of covid, the ride was perpetually running in B or C mode (no fire affects, boulder not moving, snake not moving, etc) and was down about 3-4 hours a day. They've managed to get it running better the last 2 years, but it still feels the ride needs to be shut down for 6-12 months to have a thorough go-thru to fix and refresh/modernize it.
 
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HonorableMention

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I hope that when the Indy retheme is done that ops are able to keep the ride running reliably. Between IJA and Dinosaur, it seems like a really finnicky ride system that goes down easily.

I don’t think it’s uncommon on either coast to see a lot of unexpected downtime, and the vehicles in AK are almost 30 years old.
 
Bocabear

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rle4lunch said:
1. Probably not, but it's still a very viable and evergreen IP. It had/has/will have staying power as a story telling medium for spinoffs and countless more games. So, in that vein, I can totally understand why this was greenlit. And the fact that Dinosaur isn't that great of a ride (gasp), and WDW kinda gave up on it the last decade or so.

2. 30 years of technologic improvements to how attractions are built almost guarantee that this will be at or better than DL's. DL's version is great, but could definitely use a refresh. For years during covid and coming out of covid, the ride was perpetually running in B or C mode (no fire affects, boulder not moving, snake not moving, etc) and was down about 3-4 hours a day. They've managed to get it running better the last 2 years, but it still feels the ride needs to be shut down for 6-12 months to have a thorough go-thru to fix and refresh/modernize it.
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It seems like now the company is more interested in efficiency of design which clearly the DL version was not... It was the most elaborate queue they had ever built...The ride sets are amazing and beautifully done. Seems like the new philosophy is simpler, cheaper and integrate more screens. I think adding Indy will be great, I just hope it is not the budget version that is not as great as what they have previously built... and I hope they don't create some social commentary backstory that is not necessary.
 
rle4lunch

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Bocabear said:
It seems like now the company is more interested in efficiency of design which clearly the DL version was not... It was the most elaborate queue they had ever built...The ride sets are amazing and beautifully done. Seems like the new philosophy is simpler, cheaper and integrate more screens. I think adding Indy will be great, I just hope it is not the budget version that is not as great as what they have previously built... and I hope they don't create some social commentary backstory that is not necessary.
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I look at the current queues in WDW and feel that they have actually stepped up their game on theming them while stepping down on ride quality (GOTG and FOP withstanding). Think of Little Mermaid in MK (Awesome queue, lackluster ride) compared to the DCA queue (meh queue). Think of Rat's queue (lackluster ride).
 
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mattpeto

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Disney Files Notice of Commencement for Triceratops Spin and Fossil Fun Games Demolition at Animal Kingdom​

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Disney Files Notice of Commencement for Triceratop Spin and Fossil Fun Games Demolition at Animal Kingdom

Disney Files Notice of Commencement for Triceratop Spin and Fossil Fun Games Demolition at Animal Kingdom
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While I don't believe Triceratops Spin will be saved and relocated (ex - to Toy Story Land), it will be interesting to see how they take down this attraction.

Anything to read into paperwork?
 
JohnD

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mattpeto said:
While I don't believe Triceratops Spin will be saved and relocated (ex - to Toy Story Land), it will be interesting to see how they take down this attraction.

Anything to read into paperwork?
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It will be demoed. TSL already has the Alien Swirling Saucers spinner.
 
Loose Pebble

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Bocabear said:
It seems like now the company is more interested in efficiency of design which clearly the DL version was not... It was the most elaborate queue they had ever built...The ride sets are amazing and beautifully done. Seems like the new philosophy is simpler, cheaper and integrate more screens. I think adding Indy will be great, I just hope it is not the budget version that is not as great as what they have previously built... and I hope they don't create some social commentary backstory that is not necessary.
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Yeah you can see this a bit with the refresh at DL as well, where they added the projection mapping of the temple falling apart at the end. I personally am not a fan of this, as it takes me out of the moment. Hopefully they don't do this for the AK version.
 
Bocabear

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JohnD said:
It will be demoed. TSL already has the Alien Swirling Saucers spinner.
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Triceratops Spin is a completely different experience to Alien Swirling Saucers....That is like saying because there is a carusel in Fantasyland they should not have a Dumbo attraction in Fantasyland... not that there is enugh area for Triceratops Spin, but it would be nice to add a little something extra VS demolition and get rid of it...
 
mattpeto

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Bocabear said:
Triceratops Spin is a completely different experience to Alien Swirling Saucers....That is like saying because there is a carusel in Fantasyland they should not have a Dumbo attraction in Fantasyland... not that there is enugh area for Triceratops Spin, but it would be nice to add a little something extra VS demolition and get rid of it...
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Yep that would be a real difference maker at DHS, compared to parks like DCA/DL/MK.

DCA/DL/MK has plenty of "carnival rides". They might seem like they are throwaways, but they are perfect for the families with small children.

At a place like DHS, which is in E-Ticket overdrive, we could some more carnival rides.
 
JohnD

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Bocabear said:
Triceratops Spin is a completely different experience to Alien Swirling Saucers....That is like saying because there is a carusel in Fantasyland they should not have a Dumbo attraction in Fantasyland... not that there is enugh area for Triceratops Spin, but it would be nice to add a little something extra VS demolition and get rid of it...
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It still won't happen. After everyone crying about getting rid of a cheap fair from AK, the last thing they're going to do is add that. I just looked at the ride. You're right. Better fit for MK. They already have three of that type of ride. Why stop there? Add a fourth.
 
ToTBellHop

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At minimum, they should be careful when demoing so they have replacement parts for their other spinners. When I was in the parks (Christmas week, when they need everything running at 100%), no fewer than 3 carpets were broken on that spinner. I doubt anyone would notice if they quietly replaced them with 3 triceratops.

And those games at Boardwalk are almost never open. Maybe they just need replacement squirt guns?
 
Gusey

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ToTBellHop said:
At minimum, they should be careful when demoing so they have replacement parts for their other spinners. When I was in the parks (Christmas week, when they need everything running at 100%), no fewer than 3 carpets were broken on that spinner. I doubt anyone would notice if they quietly replaced them with 3 triceratops.

And those games at Boardwalk are almost never open. Maybe they just need replacement squirt guns?
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Especially as Triceratops is exactly the same ride mechanism as Carpets with the tilting lever in the back row. One of the reasons we got Triceratops was because they were making Carpets at the same time and decided to clone Carpets for WDS' opening and AK
 

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