News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

DarkMetroid567

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I believe they said it best.

You should have an experience you want to deliver, but if there’s an IP that fits that experience, you should he’s that IP.

That’s how we got Indy in the first place.

No matter how good you make Dinosaur, it would always be a Jurassic Park/World imitator. People can love it, it could be amazing, but it would still hinder the experience.

If Shanghai Pirates was at Universal w/o the IP, it wouldn’t be as good.

The issue is when you have an IP mandate without an attraction idea, that’s how you get uninspired mediocrity.

Dinosaur sought to out Dinosaur Jurassic Park, it was setup for failure. Journey to the Center of the Earth works far better, even though both have similar goals, because it’s not dominated by preconceived media (even though it’s still technically IP).
I think is it. I think Dinosaur is the best dinosaur-themed attraction in the world (and I’ve done Beijing’s Jurassic World…) but the popularity has just never been there. It’s bittersweet to see it go, but I can’t be mad at Disney for getting rid of it.
 

SplashJacket

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I think is it. I think Dinosaur is the best dinosaur-themed attraction in the world (and I’ve done Beijing’s Jurassic World…) but the popularity has just never been there. It’s bittersweet to see it go, but I can’t be mad at Disney for getting rid of it.
Really? Supposed to hear that. In what ways does it exceed Beijing?
 

Epcot81Fan

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The way I look at any attraction is if you take away the IP is the ride still good. IMO lately a lot aren't. Dinosaur is a good example where it's a great attraction even without IP.
Absolutely agree.

Perfect example, if you strip Tiana’s Bayou Adventure of its terrible IP, you find an amazing Splash Mountain underneath.
 

Touchdown

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I’m not entirely certain why Disney would close Dinosaur before Encanto opens, it seems to me, especially in a park hurting for attractions it would make the most sense to build Encanto first, and close Dinosaur the day you open Encanto. That way you have less nashing of teeth, Dino’s close gets overshadowed, and you don’t operate a park with 5 attractions. Construction wise it also seems possible to do this easily.
 

James Alucobond

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I’m not entirely certain why Disney would close Dinosaur before Encanto opens, it seems to me, especially in a park hurting for attractions it would make the most sense to build Encanto first, and close Dinosaur the day you open Encanto. That way you have less nashing of teeth, Dino’s close gets overshadowed, and you don’t operate a park with 5 attractions. Construction wise it also seems possible to do this easily.
They want to launch the land as a big bang, which makes more sense from a marketing perspective. The staggered attraction openings in Galaxy's Edge felt really weird, for instance. They'll keep Dinosaur open as long as they can, but they will be closed simultaneously at some point.
 

DarkMetroid567

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Really? Supposed to hear that. In what ways does it exceed Beijing?
I could write an entire article about Jurassic World Adventure, but long story short is screenz + using the Scoop vehicle does not at all fit the type of ride JWA is trying to be. As a result, you have scenes with incredible dino AAs preceded and followed by boring scenes where nothing happens while the ride vehicle randomly spins a la Midway Mania. On a technical level, the ride is still incredible, I just don’t think it has the cohesion and pacing that DAK Dinosaur has. It’s not scary like Dinosaur, nor is it as pretty as Dinosaur, nor is it as plot-driven as Dinosaur, it’s just… cool.
 

KDM31091

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I just rode this a couple times today and yesterday. The alioramus AA is missing (probably maintenance) so this might be the temporary replacement for it. There's 2 of the static raptors.

Gosh I love this ride. I'm so going to miss it.
I took it as temporary distractions from the missing alioramus, as well.
 

Jrb1979

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I could write an entire article about Jurassic World Adventure, but long story short is screenz + using the Scoop vehicle does not at all fit the type of ride JWA is trying to be. As a result, you have scenes with incredible dino AAs preceded and followed by boring scenes where nothing happens while the ride vehicle randomly spins a la Midway Mania. On a technical level, the ride is still incredible, I just don’t think it has the cohesion and pacing that DAK Dinosaur has. It’s not scary like Dinosaur, nor is it as pretty as Dinosaur, nor is it as plot-driven as Dinosaur, it’s just… cool.
I would take Jurassic River Adventure over either one of those. It does one thing many of these rides don't. Is it has thrills to go along with the immersive theming.
 

sonoma15

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I would take Jurassic River Adventure over either one of those. It does one thing many of these rides don't. Is it has thrills to go along with the immersive theming.
Both Dinosaur and Jurassic World Adventure (haven't been on it myself, but basing off similar scoop rides) are definitely thrilling. Jurassic World Adventure takes the thrills to a new level by having dinosaurs actually interact with the ride vehicle (the ride vehicle gets "hit" by the tail of the ankylosaurus and the head of the Indominus Rex in the ride). They've basically taken the moment in Spiderman where he first lands on your vehicle and have done that with physical animatronics.
 

DarkMetroid567

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Both Dinosaur and Jurassic World Adventure (haven't been on it myself, but basing off similar scoop rides) are definitely thrilling. Jurassic World Adventure takes the thrills to a new level by having dinosaurs actually interact with the ride vehicle (the ride vehicle gets "hit" by the tail of the ankylosaurus and the head of the Indominus Rex in the ride). They've basically taken the moment in Spiderman where he first lands on your vehicle and have done that with physical animatronics.
The I-Rex hit in the beginning of the ride is a huge highlight — comparatively you don’t feel the anklyosaurus as much. JWA’s issue is, unlike Spidey and even Transformers, the motion of the ride is aimless. A lot of the time is spent shaking and spinning around for no real reason. It’s the least disciplined SCOOP ride — and when you eventually do get to the screens, there’s almost no motion at all!

I think Spider-Man is a much better and more thrilling ride. I could be convinced that Transformers is a better ride as well, but those screens are… a lot.
 

Jrb1979

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Both Dinosaur and Jurassic World Adventure (haven't been on it myself, but basing off similar scoop rides) are definitely thrilling. Jurassic World Adventure takes the thrills to a new level by having dinosaurs actually interact with the ride vehicle (the ride vehicle gets "hit" by the tail of the ankylosaurus and the head of the Indominus Rex in the ride). They've basically taken the moment in Spiderman where he first lands on your vehicle and have done that with physical animatronics.
Yes they have some thrill but it's nothing big like River Adventure with its drop. IMO the mix of thrill and theme at WDW is Tower of Terror.

That's the kind of thrill WDW should do more of.
 

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