News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

co10064

co10064

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We keep seeing a mountainous berm beyond the Casita facade. I wonder if that will make the final cut, or if it’s artistic license…?
 
RoysCabin

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Whatever rides they put in, I just have to admit I hope they get away from "there's a mission, and we need YOU to help us accomplish it!" ride stories. Like, I know that's the story in Dinosaur, but at the same time it's more that Seeker is using us and we're helplessly riding along with his scheme, not that we, a bunch of passive tourists sitting in a vehicle, are somehow instrumental to his project's success through our own actions.

The nature of riding a theme park attraction is that you are passively experiencing something; turning it into "you saved the day!" has always struck me as particularly lame, going back to the initial Kilimanjaro Safari storyline where we "save" the elephants.
 
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doctornick

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RoysCabin said:
Whatever rides they put in, I just have to admit I hope they get away from "there's a mission, and we need YOU to help us accomplish it!" ride stories. Like, I know that's the story in Dinosaur, but at the same time it's more that Seeker is using us and we're helplessly riding along with his scheme, not that we, a bunch of passive tourists sitting in a vehicle, are somehow instrumental to his project's success through our own actions.

The nature of riding a theme park attraction is that you are passively experiencing something; turning it into "you saved the day!" has always struck me as particularly lame, going back to the initial Kilimanjaro Safari storyline where we "save" the elephants.
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I tend to agree, but don't think the Safari is a particularly egregious case of this - much like with Dinosaur, I think the premise is that your guide on the safari was the one who needed to go and "save" the elephant and we as tourists were just along with the ride because we were in the vehicle. I don't think there was a concept that we were doing anything to rescue the elephant.

To be fair to Disney, I think Universal is much more guilty of overusing and/or ineffectually using that trope.
 
Gusey

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Starship824 said:
I know, that's the original art from d23, I'm referring to the leaked art from a few days ago. It appears as if the pink river is gone from this art, obviously we don't know for sure if this art is real but it's just something interesting worth noting.
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Any chance the river is behind us in the leaked concept art? I feel like the river is something they've mentioned a few times with this project
 
RoysCabin

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doctornick said:
I tend to agree, but don't think the Safari is a particularly egregious case of this - much like with Dinosaur, I think the premise is that your guide on the safari was the one who needed to go and "save" the elephant and we as tourists were just along with the ride because we were in the vehicle. I don't think there was a concept that we were doing anything to rescue the elephant.

To be fair to Disney, I think Universal is much more guilty of overusing and/or ineffectually using that trope.
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You may be right and I'm just misremembering it a bit.

A lot of whether that trope works does come down to what kind of ride it is, how the riders' presences are acknowledged (or not), etc. Like, I get it being used for something like Buzz Lightyear in MK or Mario Kart in Universal; with the option to fire weapons it means you're no longer "passive" on those rides, so some kind of acknowledgement of us at the end makes sense. And yeah, stuff like Dinosaur or Spider-man at Islands of Adventure have us along for the ride in an intense situation, but nobody's acting like "YOU saved the Iguanodon!" or "YOU stopped the Sinister Six!", as Spidey even goes out of his way to tell us we're taking a senseless risk and then saves us along the way. And obviously there's the originator of this concept - the old Fantasyland dark rides where you're supposed to assume the role of Snow White, Peter Pan, Alice, Mr. Toad, etc., so if the ride addresses you in some way it's because you're supposed to be seeing it through your main character's eyes.

But yeah, when it turns into something like the new Tiana ride, where we, the riders, are asked to go find the band, it really feels pretty silly at that point, given we're not, y'know...doing anything. Even ones where they're telling us we're on our way somewhere (e.g. Frozen Ever After) strike me as odd; the ride is now projecting an active purpose onto my decision to go on it, rather than working around the fact that, again, I'm just some tourist who's here to experience stuff, not someone who knows the main characters or has some kind of invitation to meet them. I'm trying to recall which Universal rides I was on that gave me that same feeling; might've been something like implying we had anything to do with stuff working out at the Gringott's ride? I can definitely believe that Universal's guilty of the same stuff (or more of it!), but I only had a day there about five years ago, so I'm probably just not remembering well.
 
Fox&Hound

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Hasn't it been suggested that the ride is no longer a water ride? Was the river just a part of the concept art when it was a water-based attraction?
 
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Nickm2022

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Fox&Hound said:
Hasn't it been suggested that the ride is no longer a water ride? Was the river just a part of the concept art when it was a water-based attraction?
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The river outside the house I believe was just for show. The ride has been rumored as multiple different ride systems (omnimover, trackless, and boat) so not sure which one they will go with, but either way the river outside was separate from the attraction anyway. They could still have the river outside the house, but it's not in the new concept art at least from what we can see. Maybe it's just the wrong angle.

I also would be surprised if Encanto is a boat ride, especially when considering how many boat rides are already rumored.
 
Starship824

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Nickm2022 said:
The river outside the house I believe was just for show. The ride has been rumored as multiple different ride systems (omnimover, trackless, and boat) so not sure which one they will go with, but either way the river outside was separate from the attraction anyway. They could still have the river outside the house, but it's not in the new concept art at least from what we can see. Maybe it's just the wrong angle.

I also would be surprised if Encanto is a boat ride, especially when considering how many boat rides are already rumored.
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It is possible it's still there, just the angle. The art could be from right here:
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cjkeating

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Starship824 said:
It is possible it's still there, just the angle. The art could be from right here:
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I think the art is taken closer to the bottom left hand of the picture. You can see some similar structures which appear to be the entrance into the show building.

In reality you have to assume a bright pink river is a) a lot of artistic license and b) highly impractical from a safety perspective this close to guests, it would all need fencing off etc.
 
Professortango1

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cjkeating said:
I think the art is taken closer to the bottom left hand of the picture. You can see some similar structures which appear to be the entrance into the show building.

In reality you have to assume a bright pink river is a) a lot of artistic license and b) highly impractical from a safety perspective this close to guests, it would all need fencing off etc.
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Fencing could simply be a short stone wall and some landscaping along with a steep gradient down to the river level as they have done in the past with other water attractions that wind past guest areas. Pink water can easily be achieved with painting the flume as well as lighting.
 
Timothy_Q

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I wonder if it was considered for the actual ride flume to have pink water

If they managed to not make it look like a barbie ride it could be a really unique feature to set it apart from all the other boat rides in the making right now
 
SilentWindODoom

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Man... Imagine if that were just normal weather, but covered with a layer of the petals of pink flowers.

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There can't be any way of portraying this without it eventually all disappearing/causing an issue for animal life coming upon it, unfortunately.
 

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