News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

SilentWindODoom

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As for how indiana jones ties into animal kingdom, you have to look at animal kingdom as a series of lands. Africa, India, Asia, and with this new land, south america. You are also forgetting what indiana jones is, an archeologist. An archeologist's job is to explore the known world to unlock knowledge of the past so new generations can learn more about the past. An archeologist not only examines the people but also the land, the environment, and all factors connected to those people including the animals. An archeologist exploring an ancient structure in search of knowledge is not too dissimilar an idea to going on a train ride in search of the Yeti. Sure I would love for a strictly animal section to be added but we must remember the important saying that disney stressed over and over in commercials, Not a zoo.

You've got the snakes and the bugs. If you replace the skeletal warriors with another animal threat (perhaps in a nod to It's Tough to be A Bug it could be hundreds of the spider that shoots quills) and then have the ride exit Safari-style into a nature trail among ruins that displays these creatures and creatures featured in Encanto (Capybaras, Toucans, Coatimundis, a butterfly garden, a dark rat house, and Jaguars as a headliner equivalent to the Gorillas and Tigers in the other two) then you could have a land that fits in Animal Kingdom. Indy can fit with a little tweaking and this land can work.
 

MichWolv

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You've got the snakes and the bugs. If you replace the skeletal warriors with another animal threat (perhaps in a nod to It's Tough to be A Bug it could be hundreds of the spider that shoots quills) and then have the ride exit Safari-style into a nature trail among ruins that displays these creatures and creatures featured in Encanto (Capybaras, Toucans, Coatimundis, a butterfly garden, a dark rat house, and Jaguars as a headliner equivalent to the Gorillas and Tigers in the other two) then you could have a land that fits in Animal Kingdom. Indy can fit with a little tweaking and this land can work.
I agree with this assessment. While the Indy movies have not focused on animals, there is no reason Indy can’t have an adventure that features animals. And that‘s a fine way to integrate the IP. In fact, it creates the possibility for an entirely new story that uses the IP to add to the story, instead of take over the whole attraction.
 

MagicHappens1971

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Even if Disney + finds some way to break even next year and begin to actually profit it's FIRST penny.....it will be a VERY long time for it to generate 15+ billion in actual profit. (minus whatever it has brought in...but we know it's losing 100's of million per quarter, every quarter) Maybe in 25 years, it will have profited enough get that investment back.

So what is the "real" year that Disney will get it's 15+ billion back? 2034...2044?

My prediction - Disney+ is thrown away and Disney content get's all placed into a menu tab in HULU and Disney + subscribers get rolled into HULU. (and creative tax write off's go into action)

I dunno,....just a prediction. We will find out next year.
I think it will be the opposite. Disneys not going to take their name off of the service is more of what I mean by that. They’re going to blend Hulu into D+, which is confirmed. The they’ll probably wait a little bit and then have “Hulu” glow away, and lay off all the additional staff.
 

jeanericuser001

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You've got the snakes and the bugs. If you replace the skeletal warriors with another animal threat (perhaps in a nod to It's Tough to be A Bug it could be hundreds of the spider that shoots quills) and then have the ride exit Safari-style into a nature trail among ruins that displays these creatures and creatures featured in Encanto (Capybaras, Toucans, Coatimundis, a butterfly garden, a dark rat house, and Jaguars as a headliner equivalent to the Gorillas and Tigers in the other two) then you could have a land that fits in Animal Kingdom. Indy can fit with a little tweaking and this land can work.
I got one idea. Maybe build a ziggurat style building with indy trying to find a rare gem that belonged to a long extinct tribe. The tribe worshipped a prehistoric ancestor of the anaconda which beneath the ziggurat. The riders would travel through series of rooms with traps and mummies in search of the gem while being hunted by the anaconda with the finale leading to indy fighting off the snake while you flee out of the ziggurat. After that they can have a couple animals as well as a snake display as well as well as the obligatory gift shop that always has to be at the end of a ride.
 

Rhinocerous

Premium Member
I got one idea. Maybe build a ziggurat style building with indy trying to find a rare gem that belonged to a long extinct tribe. The tribe worshipped a prehistoric ancestor of the anaconda which beneath the ziggurat. The riders would travel through series of rooms with traps and mummies in search of the gem while being hunted by the anaconda with the finale leading to indy fighting off the snake while you flee out of the ziggurat. After that they can have a couple animals as well as a snake display as well as well as the obligatory gift shop that always has to be at the end of a ride.
Snakes. Why does it have to be snakes?
 

Disgruntled Walt

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I still think they should just have it be Indiana Jones encountering dinosaurs. That way you can keep the animatronics, and weren't carnotaurus fossils discovered in South America anyway?
That's the only place carnotaurus fossils were found...so technically, we've been in South America the whole time! (despite the USA suffix to Dinoland)
 

Twirlnhurl

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as well as the obligatory gift shop that always has to be at the end of a ride.
The last new ride to be built at Walt Disney World to have a gift shop at the exit was Flight of Passage in 2017. (They did add a gift shop more recently to the exit of Toy Story Midway Mania, but the ride itself is older).

Tron (2023), Cosmic Rewind (2022), Ratatouille (2021), Runaway Railway (2020), Rise of the Resistance (2019), Smugglers Run (2019), Slinky Dog Dash (2018), and Alien Swirling Saucers (2018) all do not exit to a gift shop.

I'm not sure what's up with that.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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The last new ride to be built at Walt Disney World to have a gift shop at the exit was Flight of Passage in 2017. (They did add a gift shop more recently to the exit of Toy Story Midway Mania, but the ride itself is older).
And you can skip the shop of FoP by going right immediately before the shop through a gate marked "Cast Members Only."

And yes, tho marked CMO, I and many many others use it regularly. And it's pretty stupid to have it marked CMO since immediately on the other side of the gate is guest area. You can walk up to that gate from the other side and hang out there. There is nothing CMO about that space.
 

Rhinocerous

Premium Member
The last new ride to be built at Walt Disney World to have a gift shop at the exit was Flight of Passage in 2017. (They did add a gift shop more recently to the exit of Toy Story Midway Mania, but the ride itself is older).
I was surprised and disappointed that Toy Story Land does not have a proper gift shop. (I don’t count the hole in the wall that they shoved at the end of the Mania hallway.)
 

EricsBiscuit

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The last new ride to be built at Walt Disney World to have a gift shop at the exit was Flight of Passage in 2017. (They did add a gift shop more recently to the exit of Toy Story Midway Mania, but the ride itself is older).

Tron (2023), Cosmic Rewind (2022), Ratatouille (2021), Runaway Railway (2020), Rise of the Resistance (2019), Smugglers Run (2019), Slinky Dog Dash (2018), and Alien Swirling Saucers (2018) all do not exit to a gift shop.

I'm not sure what's up with that.
And Tron in Shanghai does have a gift shop, making it more surprising there’s none at MK.
 

jeanericuser001

Well-Known Member
The last new ride to be built at Walt Disney World to have a gift shop at the exit was Flight of Passage in 2017. (They did add a gift shop more recently to the exit of Toy Story Midway Mania, but the ride itself is older).

Tron (2023), Cosmic Rewind (2022), Ratatouille (2021), Runaway Railway (2020), Rise of the Resistance (2019), Smugglers Run (2019), Slinky Dog Dash (2018), and Alien Swirling Saucers (2018) all do not exit to a gift shop.

I'm not sure what's up with that.
Simpsons ride reference.
 

Bocabear

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The SWGE area is a retail site with two attractions attached...they don't actually need a gift shop at the exit... Toy Story Land just seems poorly planned from every angle...perhaps there were shops that were part of the first cluster of buildings that was cut from the plans...
 

Twirlnhurl

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And you can skip the shop of FoP by going right immediately before the shop through a gate marked "Cast Members Only."

And yes, tho marked CMO, I and many many others use it regularly. And it's pretty stupid to have it marked CMO since immediately on the other side of the gate is guest area. You can walk up to that gate from the other side and hang out there. There is nothing CMO about that space.
Yeah, funnily enough, one of the two other "back stage gates" that has front of house on both sides is at DAK: at the exit of Dinosaur, after you exit the gift shop and take the path to the right, one of these gates directs people into the second gift shop at the ride's exit.
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The other example I can think of is only used intermittently: at DHS, when you exit Muppetvision, the gate directs you towards the Alley with the Muppet gift shop and the Christmas shop. But since Covid I haven't seen it used, since I don't think those shops are open.
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Cliff

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I think it will be the opposite. Disneys not going to take their name off of the service is more of what I mean by that. They’re going to blend Hulu into D+, which is confirmed. The they’ll probably wait a little bit and then have “Hulu” glow away, and lay off all the additional staff.
Well?...this is a complicated tax question....but....If Disney shuts down Disney + and moved all it's content to HULU,...could Disney close down and write off Disney + and categorize it as giant 15 billion dollar operating loss?

It seems excessive to me but "if" it is possible, that would be a GIGANTIC benefit to Disney's future finances. I'd have to believe that's a huge number for the IRS to swallow but I duuno.

Anybody know it it's even possible? It's a fact that Disney+ has, so far, been nothing but a gigantic loss and technically a tax write-off "might" be perfectly legal???.
 

YodaMan

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Yeah, funnily enough, one of the two other "back stage gates" that has front of house on both sides is at DAK: at the exit of Dinosaur, after you exit the gift shop and take the path to the right, one of these gates directs people into the second gift shop at the ride's exit.
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The other example I can think of is only used intermittently: at DHS, when you exit Muppetvision, the gate directs you towards the Alley with the Muppet gift shop and the Christmas shop. But since Covid I haven't seen it used, since I don't think those shops are open.
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For posterity’s sake, just wanted to add that the gate by the MV3D exit has actually been closed for about a month or so now.
 

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Tron (2023),
Tron's gift shop is the former Space Mountain gift shop now basically.
Cosmic Rewind (2022),
Treasures of Xandar is technically right at the exit.
Ratatouille (2021),
True, but it does have a gift shop at the pavilion
Runaway Railway (2020),
Got me there.
Rise of the Resistance (2019), Smugglers Run (2019),
The entire darn land you exit into is practically a huge Star Wars shopping center when you think about it.
Slinky Dog Dash (2018),
Already a Toy Story themed gift shop at Mania.
and Alien Swirling Saucers (2018) all do not exit to a gift shop.
Carny rides usually don't have gift shops.
 

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