News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

FigmentJedi

FigmentJedi

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Coaster Lover said:
Actually, if you look at the concept, it looks like there is no longer a spinner, but there does appear to be a building for a carousel... a carousel with donkeys with unicorn horns all circeling around Luisa in the middle could work!
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It's probably going to be all of Antonio's animal buddies on the carousel, giving Animal Kingdom the ride that nearly every zoo has.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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So, if "Tropical Americas" takes place, I see some people hoping the Nemo show could anchor an Oceania land.

There's no room. If you want an Oceania land, you raze Nemo and build a mini-land (based, of course on Moana). This Oceania land will be hemmed in by Tropical Americas and EE.

OR... you can expand Tropical Americas and make Nemo an Encanto show (or sing-along).
 
WaltWiz1901

WaltWiz1901

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I'm a bit torn on this. On one hand it would be a bummer to see the dinosaurs going extinct from Animal Kingdom if this does end up being given the green light, on the other hand I am more than welcome to a Central/South American land in AK (and the shown concept art looks miles better than anything in today's DinoLand/Dino-Rama!).

On another note...
Brer Panther said:
Because [...] not every new dark ride needs to be trackless, and most of the recent trackless dark rides Disney has built are mediocre at best and lousy at worse (the Ratatouille ride, Runaway Railway, Tokyo's letdown of a Beauty and the Beast ride).
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Brer Panther said:
Busbars don't park the riders in front of a screen (Ratatouille) or have the vehicles spin around in gigantic almost-empty rooms (Beauty and the Beast) for most of the ride. Just because trackless dark rides are more "high-tech" doesn't make them better.
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While I do agree with your points in the first quote, as someone already said, I can't blame the system nearly as much as the current-gen Imagineers not knowing how to use it effectively (relying too heavily on screens [even when what they're doing is possible to do practically], non-intimate placemaking, and either mainly sticking to one linear path with little deviation or [in Enchanted Tale's case] having the vehicles "dance" in virtually every scene).

Try poking around for interviews, podcasts, etc. with Eddie Sotto. He and the second/third-gen Imagineers took more or less full advantage of going trackless when designing Pooh's Hunny Hunt, even down to executing the queue on a level much like that of a standard Fantasyland dark ride so as to make the payoff that much bigger.
Twirlnhurl said:
Bus bar rides can park in front of screens too! Just look at any of the Triotech dark rides around the world (I can only think of the one at Knotts at the moment, but there are moee) or the Justice League rides at various Six Flags parks.
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Toy Story Mania!, too, as a matter of fact (not a standard C-ticket dark ride, but still a dark ride that runs on a track either way).
 
Brer Panther

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James Alucobond

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MisterPenguin said:
So, if "Tropical Americas" takes place, I see some people hoping the Nemo show could anchor an Oceania land.

There's no room. If you want an Oceania land, you raze Nemo and build a mini-land (based, of course on Moana). This Oceania land will be hemmed in by Tropical Americas and EE.

OR... you can expand Tropical Americas and make Nemo an Encanto show (or sing-along).
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They could also just leave it as a transitional Oceania zone with Nemo in the theater and Moana as a daytime show in the Discovery River amphitheater to replace Kite-tastrophe. Kind of makes a tiny bit of sense between the tropics and Asia?
 
DonniePeverley

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DonniePeverley said:
But this announcement is literally nothing. How can you literally think you can announce something and add the words 'next decade' after it with a straight face?

What happened to last years 'plans to Beyond Thunder Mountain', or before that plans for 'Mary Poppins into Epcot'. I tell you what - we never here from those plans again.

It's all just nonsense.

These D23 events were something to look forward too. But now they are nothing but fluff and nonsense. The sooner they are abandoned the better.

Just say 'hey we've had a poor year, and of course the theme park division is the one that will take the hit' and we got nothing planned.

Next year they will get up with a straight face and tell us possible within the next 34 years they may not only fix the yeti, but build a whole world dedicated to the Yeti. Yeah over 34 years. Cue mass hysteria enthusiam on the forums, and cheers and fainting at the D23 event.

Utter nonsense, don't fall for it.
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I predict this thread will get 300 pages. It will be the year 2032, and some will say Josh said there would be an Indy land in Animal Kingdom within 10 years and it will be built anytime now.

We've descended to a new low as fans of Disney Theme parks. Where as once we demanded new attractions and experiences and discussed them at length, we now seem pacified with nonsense talk about something they may or may not do in 10 years.

Shameful.

If this is the level of D23 announcements then i would boycott the shows. Insulting our intelligence.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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haveyoumetmark said:
The meltdowns that will ensue when casita turns out to be a meet and greet. I am concerned but cautiously optimistic.
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The fact that Chris Beatty didn't announce it tells me it's probably not a meet and greet.

I wonder if internally at Imagineering he's the guy that gets the initial pitch to move forward and then someone comes in with the real pitch that gets built. Seems to have been the case for New Fantasyland, Star Wars and the Dinoland replacement.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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FettFan said:
Also, why would they even kill Dinoland for these anyway?

There's a MASSIVE expansion area between Asia and Rafiki's Planet Watch.


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You likely have to remove the train, Maharajah Jungle Trek or Kali to get there easily.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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FettFan said:
Indiana Jones needs to be at DHS.
Get rid of the stunt show, which is currently a shell of its former self. No audience participation, no guns, the exploding truck has been removed, the German airplane mechanic gag is gone, etc.

Replace it with an IJ water coaster/splashdown dark ride featuring vehicles in the form of duck boats.


Encanto needs to be in Adventureland, replacing the Swiss Family Treehouse.
While I would miss the treehouse, it’s evident that Disney parks don’t consider even their best rides sacred (RIP Splash), the Robinson’s need to be evicted from valuable real estate.
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The problem is it's difficult to find IP that integrates well into DAK and EPCOT. It's far easier to integrate IP into MK and DHS. When there are IPs that kind of fit into DAK and EPCOT (even if us as fans don't agree) that's where they're going to go. The current decision tree at Disney starts with the IP and worries about a unifying theme afterwards.
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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RSoxNo1 said:
The fact that Chris Beatty didn't announce it tells me it's probably not a meet and greet.

I wonder if internally at Imagineering he's the guy that gets the initial pitch to move forward and then someone comes in with the real pitch that gets built. Seems to have been the case for New Fantasyland, Star Wars and the Dinoland replacement.
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And yet he is still employed. They should have him in charge of restroom tiles at Epcot now that Zach is promoted.
 

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