News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

Rich Brownn

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Are you saying Walt was focused on some pure concept of fairytales and folklore and only begrudgingly included movies? From its founding Disneyland has always pushed synergy with its entertainment and merchandising offerings. It's obviously gotten a lot more extreme but there's been no philosophical change.

Walt was a creative genius but also a pretty ruthless businessman, the original Disneyland included a ton of IP tie ins and connections. The Jungle Cruise is connected to True-Life Adventures, Frontierland supported Davy Crockett, the Matterhorn was connected to "Third Man on the Mountain" the only fairy tales selected were those with Disney movies etc.
Heck, Disneyland's two main icons (The Castle and the Matterhorn) both came from movies, and the castle in particular is an IP icon (built to promote the forthcoming movie).
 

lazyboy97o

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Heck, Disneyland's two main icons (The Castle and the Matterhorn) both came from movies, and the castle in particular is an IP icon (built to promote the forthcoming movie).
Sleeping Beauty Castle was not built to promote the movie. Do was always going to have a castle and it was at first just the generic Fantasyland Castle.

The shared setting of the Matterhorn Bobsleds doesn’t mean it came from Third Man on the Mountain. Both came out of Walt’s interests in winter sports which is what had first brought him to Zermatt.
 

DisneyHead123

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I don’t doubt it but it seems odd to remove the Boneyard. It’s quite popular and it’s such an easy re-theme from a paleontology dig site to an archaeology dig site. But 🤷‍♂️
I like the Boneyard for littles but it’s nothing you wouldn’t find at a million indoor playgrounds. I can see them thinking that if families are paying Disney prices, they’re expecting something unique. (On that note, I know they have some kind of “Encanto Experience” type traveling play area, as I’m always getting ads for it on social media. Since that’s already designed, wonder if they will incorporate it?)
 

osian

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Yea I always find it funny when people think Walt wouldn’t be pushing as much IP into the parks as Iger is today if he was alive. Walt was the king of cross promoting his IP across film, TV, merchandise and parks. He pretty much invented it. I can’t imagine what he would have done if he had the amount of IP to play with that the company has now.
"What Walt would have done" is disenguous because it's clear that by the time of his death he wasn't considering additonal theme parks but had changed his trajectory towards The Florida Project, which certainly had nothing to do with pushing Disney movies. The company then built a second park in the image of Disneyland but also took inspiration from the new vision when building EPCOT Center. Did they go against his principles when inititially not tying the park into Disney movies?
 

LSLS

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Moana is a phenomenon, but in 2024 Encanto is still routinely making the list of top ten most-streamed films. If that doesn't rise to the level of being popular enough to justify an attraction and some shows, then we'd better get ready for a future of four Moana theme parks at WDW.
We are getting an Encanto show, Encanto ride (and maybe miniland), meet and greet, and Encanto in a character meal so far, represented in 3 parks and a resort. Now, been a while since I've been down, but I believe Frozen has a meet and greet, a show, and a ride (I don't think a character meal?) in 2 parks. Moana has a walkthrough garden and maybe a meet and greet in 2 parks? My point is that I find it odd that Encanto seems to be getting more representation than the much larger films.
 

Gusey

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This feels like a net loss to me, but it will be MANY MANY YEARS before I can be proved wrong.
By the time it opens, enough time would have passed since Primeval Whirl closed for it to be considered a net gain of 1. Primeval Whirl has been closed for over 4 years now
 

Disstevefan1

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By the time it opens, enough time would have passed since Primeval Whirl closed for it to be considered a net gain of 1. Primeval Whirl has been closed for over 4 years now
True, by the time this land opens, Primeval Whirl will have been closed for 10 years or more....
 

DisneyDodo

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We are getting an Encanto show, Encanto ride (and maybe miniland), meet and greet, and Encanto in a character meal so far, represented in 3 parks and a resort. Now, been a while since I've been down, but I believe Frozen has a meet and greet, a show, and a ride (I don't think a character meal?) in 2 parks. Moana has a walkthrough garden and maybe a meet and greet in 2 parks? My point is that I find it odd that Encanto seems to be getting more representation than the much larger films.
I think your counts here are a bit misleading. The Encanto show is a limited-time offering on a stage that’s meant to feature rotational performances for the festivals (it’s true that they can always give it a permanent home, but we have no indication that they will at this time), so it will not even operate at the same time as the ride.

Also, Frozen has 2 M&Gs (Anna/Elsa in Epcot + Olaf in DHS), with the first one being a more elaborate indoor purpose-built building with multiple rooms, compared to the converted outdoor space with a single Mirabel.

Finally, Anna and Elsa are featured in FoF while Bruno (and Moana) are relegated to the Cavalcade.

When all is said and done, I think both Frozen and Encanto will have appropriate representation in the parks (with the former being considerably more featured, as it should be).

I would definitely agree that until recently, Moana was criminally underrepresented at WDW given her cultural impact, but it’s hard to make the argument that Disney isn’t trying to correct that now. They added JoW and 2 M&Gs for her in recent years and the area that’s now probably going to Encanto was originally slated as a Moana ride (presumably because they realized Tropical Americas is a better fit for DAK than Moana and Zootopia mini-lands). I’d be surprised if Moana doesn’t get a ride (in Adventureland or elsewhere) announced in the coming years.
 

Pi on my Cake

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In the Parks
Yes
I think the thought was trying to do one original land for DAK instead of single IP mini-lands. But they still wanted IPs of course. South America (or Tropical Americas) is a perfect fit for a new Land at DAK. And will likely be popular with the large amount of visitors from Brazil and other South/Central American countries that WDW gets. Encanto is hugely popular, features South American animals, and would fit this theme. And Indiana Jones is a pretty timeless franchise (even if the 2 most recent movies were duds, Indy has still proven pretty timeless) which also fits South America nicely and is a good fit for a rethemed Dinosaur/dig site.

Like, this expansion is the absolute most logical thing they could do and it fits the park pretty well. No other IP or theme would've hit on all cylinders like this other than maybe some form of Beastly Kingdom, but honestly in modern DAK beastly Kingdom would arguably feel just as out of place as Zootopia
 
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discos

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Moana is very popular. I'm not convinced Encanto is nearly as popular as its being pushed. Completely anecdotal evidence, but our area has a giant consignment sale for kids things every 6 months (like 15,000 square feet insanely packed in). Every one there will be 2-3 Moana costumes, and dozens of shirts and toys. I've never seen and Encanto costumes or even shirts or toys there.

Even if you think Encanto is popular, there's no way you are going to convince me it's on Moana or especially frozen level, and it's going to be at the same level of representation.
For what its worth, applause at Disney On Ice for Mirabel and the entire Encanto segment was 5x louder than Moana's entrance and Frozen for that matter. Encanto is on the same level as those two franchises now.
 

The Leader of the Club

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No other IP or theme would've hit on all cylinders like this other than maybe some form of Beastly Kingdom, but honestly in modern DAK beastly Kingdom would arguably feel just as out of place as Zootopia
I honestly don’t get the love for the beastly kingdom concept. DAK’s E-Tickets already mostly revolve around mythical/imaginary animals (Everest & Pandora), I don’t see the need for more mythical representation in the same park. Especially if it’s just dragons/unicorns. Let those creatures live at the Magic Kingdom.
 

sedati

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Animals relevant to Indiana Jones (in the order of appearance as I can recall.) Tarantulas. Snakes. Monkeys. More snakes. Elephants. Giant Vampire Bats. More snakes. Bugs. Horses. Snakes again. Rinocerous. Giraffe. Lions. Snakes again. Rats. Camels. Snakes again. Giant Ants. Eels.

Some of these can be found in the tropical Americas and there's no reason they can't expand the canon. I'm still hoping this is a lost world scenario where we visit a plateau inhabited by dinosaurs.

Also, I can't be the only one that would pay bigly for a multi-course sit down meal in the style of Temple of Doom. I'm sure the chefs can be creative and give us faux versions of eyeball soup, snake surprise, and chilled monkey brains. Think of the TikToks and Instagrams! The waitlist would put Oga's to shame.
 

flyerjab

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Moana and Frozen are also both recent additions to Fantasmic. Frozen features on Disney Wish and Moana on Disney Treasure, along with Coco. Though for all I know Encanto could be the dining venue on Destiny.

I highly suspect Moana’s ride still is in the works for somewhere in the resort.
I’ve been thinking about Moana, ever since the initial concept art for DAK was announced. Any chance this could be the big E ticket ride that is being added somewhere in this park?

If not, I still think about MK expansion possibilities. Since they seem to be taking Encanto and possibly Coco from the original BBT expansion concept art, is there a chance that original expansion could change? I have always felt that IP would go great in Adventure Land. There is an expansion pad there, correct? And yes, it has been added to Epcot. But why add a popular IP to one park when it can be added at 2?
 

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