Sir_Cliff
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Very interesting! Thanks for that context.
It does also put into some context all of Disney+'s losses if so much of the money they 'lose' is just paid to another division of the company.
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Elemental (Pixar - June 2023)
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It does also put into some context all of Disney+'s losses if so much of the money they 'lose' is just paid to another division of the company.
TP2000
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I can easily agree with that assessment, and if true, I wish them well with that needed process.
My only hesitation is the belief they are doing this on purpose, and planned it this way. Luckily for them they had an Elemental to start the process with instead of a Strange World. I think they just lucked out on having Elemental land on the calendar where it did.
It was a huge missed opportunity with the marketing. I really think most of the kids working in Burbank now are not bright people.
Tha Realest
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With all this NewMath, no wonder they’re looking for a more permanent CFO.
Disney Analyst
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Disney Analyst
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It has good legs right now, and is about to open in the last few markets.
While it isn’t going to be a mega profit hit, I’d say it is proving Pixar isn’t DOA.
I’m happy to see the momentum for the film, and that people are coming out to see it.
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Tha Realest
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This line of thought doesn’t hold up when you consider Disney has removed a bunch of its own produced content because of the recurring costs it entails. Tons of original movies and shows were taken off to save hundreds of millions of dollars. So, the “Disney’s just paying themselves so it’s not a problem” notion doesn’t give much comfort to the producers of Artemis Fowl or Cheaper by the Dozen
Disney Irish
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I'm pretty sure that Kenneth Branagh and Kenya Barris (creator of Blackish) respectively will be just fine, especially since both have been paid already for each respective works.
Its the nature of the business, so lets not start crying crocodile tears.
Sir_Cliff
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I didn't say that there are no issues in terms of Disney+'s profitability, but if part of those losses included things like payments of $50million or so essentially to themselves to show Strange World then it at least suggests that the headline figure is not the whole story. It also helps bring us back to the point that Disney as a company is still wildly profitable.
I suspect culling so much content in an effort to find quick cost savings also has a lot to do with the short-term bias of Wall Street, which quickly swung from wanting everyone to be all-in on streaming whatever the cost to the opposite end of the spectrum. Ripping stuff off the service that people won't miss is probably one of the easiest ways to cut costs when that's where all the investor focus is directed. They're less likely to cut the fees they pay to themselves as I'm sure that's saving them plenty in taxes and helps other divisions look healthier.
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Tons?
There were two rounds of removals. The lists didn't go beyond one page each. That's a few dozen. Is that what you consider 'tons'?
TP2000
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Let's hope, as that's probably the best case scenario now.
I bought the Blu-Ray of Guess Who's Coming To Dinner? several years ago and watch it once per year.
Maybe Elemental will be the Guess Who's Coming To Dinner? for Gen Z? As you say, with time?
Everyone who starred in Guess Who's Coming To Dinner? was long since dead by the time I bought the Blu-Ray, except Sidney Pointier and Katherine Hepburn's niece (who is definitely the weakest link). So I wonder who the profits from my Blu-Ray purchase in 2016 went to?
Elemental would be so lucky to be selling copies of itself 50 years from now.
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Vegas Disney Fan
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It feels like Disney is still experimenting with their release schedule.
Strange World was on D+ a month after hitting theaters, Lightyear was on D+ 2 months after hitting theaters, Ant-man and the Wasp was released to paid download approximately 3 months after it hit theaters and then was released on D+ a month later. Guardians 3 is scheduled to release on paid download 3 months after it hit theaters but still doesn’t have a D+ release date yet, I wouldn’t be surprised if it‘s a month or 2 after that.
It’s only a guess but I’m thinking Elemental will be available for paid download the end of August and D+ around Halloween.
Disney Analyst
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Kind of a sobering stat. What came out in 2018?
Sir_Cliff
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Yes, I'm drawing a blank on that too. Is it possible he means 2017 when Coco came out?
Either way, I agree that we need to hope the original films start earning money! I really don't want any more Toy Story sequels!
Disstevefan1
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If not adjusting for the cost of movie tickets for the given years, the numbers are literally misleading.
Tickets sold is a better measure in my opinion.
Tickets sold is a better measure in my opinion.